Yeah they even switched the order of the campaigns for some stupid reason.

So there will be no more 30 day No CP Alliance Locked campaign? I Thought I just overlooked it. That really is a shame! Here we go again with faction hopping and all the other stuff. I don't see the need to remove it.

mursie wrote: »

one of the better changes. the campaign on PC NA is 80% of the time dead. even on weekends and prime-time it never reaches above 2 bar.

faction lock is an unnecessary gate on bringing players in. so glad to see it gone.

Which is going to be offset by people leaving so it'll be a wash at best

Demra wrote: »

mursie wrote: »

one of the better changes. the campaign on PC NA is 80% of the time dead. even on weekends and prime-time it never reaches above 2 bar.

faction lock is an unnecessary gate on bringing players in. so glad to see it gone.

How do you know it was caused by faction lock and not performance degradation or other factors?

i personally have 4 toons on each faction and spent time in no-cp every campaign across all of them. once faction lock entered... i no longer set foot in cyrodiil due to lock outs. and the campaign was dead.

i believe campaign will still be dead even with this change... but at least people aren't deterred simply because 1/2 their characters can't enter.

mursie wrote: »

Demra wrote: »

mursie wrote: »

one of the better changes. the campaign on PC NA is 80% of the time dead. even on weekends and prime-time it never reaches above 2 bar.

faction lock is an unnecessary gate on bringing players in. so glad to see it gone.

How do you know it was caused by faction lock and not performance degradation or other factors?

i personally have 4 toons on each faction and spent time in no-cp every campaign across all of them. once faction lock entered... i no longer set foot in cyrodiil due to lock outs. and the campaign was dead.

i believe campaign will still be dead even with this change... but at least people aren't deterred simply because 1/2 their characters can't enter.

I see. I was looking forward to faction lock but stopped playing right when it came out because of worst performance. So did my friend. I wonder if faction lock was not the cause but a coincidental timing. Hard to tell but i do hope for more populate campaign regardless of the lock.

mursie wrote: »

one of the better changes. the campaign on PC NA is 80% of the time dead. even on weekends and prime-time it never reaches above 2 bar.

faction lock is an unnecessary gate on bringing players in. so glad to see it gone.

PC EU it is going strong. Nowhere near dead.

One of the best changes with this update. Great change ZoS.

Um, guys, Gray Host is a 30 day CP enabled alliance locked campaign. It is the third one down and I suspect that it will still be the busiest.

I do not like this change at all...Faction lock is a good thing. It is very unfortunate that non-CP will be subject to constant boosting to prevent 'core' faction players from getting Emp.

idk wrote: »

With Zos backing off of alliance locks as they have been it does not seem they think there was a real issue with not having it.

More like they always seem to forget how stuff like this goes. They see more complaints about faction locking because most people who like it have no reason to come here and keep constantly posting about how they like it. People who don't like something are much more likely to come here and post thread after thread complaining about it. Now the pendulum will just swing back the other way and I anticipate many more threads complaining about the lack of a lock and all the trolling (along with the crap load of in game reports again) that goes with it. Same as it was before they instituted the lock in the first place. If there was enough of a population, I'd try to demand a locked no cp campaign but sadly they've drove so many players away from pvp in general with the poor performance and constant nerfs that there's no where near enough to people to do so. I will just keep trying to advocate for at least some type of cool down so people can't just jump back and forth between alliances all night long.

Not a fan of this, stupid change. Already crazy drama, no need to allow character swapping mid night to stir the pit even more

Gonna bring more PvP for sure but at what cost?
and More scroll trolling degenerates.
and More Spies.
and More siege trollers that turn your siege around.
and More hammer griefers.
You don't like the person grinding for emp ? swap to another faction and make their gaming experience like hell.
Here we go again , thank you ZoS.

If you care about the map and score , if you're a faction loyalist you're gonna be against this end of story.
If you're not , just go play a BG and don't abuse the campaign being unlocked.

I liked what @x48rph said about removing scoring , I mean what's the point of score in a non-locked faction?

From my opinion unlocking no cp will just take away the competitiveness and joyful experience of winning a campaign.
What's the point of winning when you can just swap to whatever faction that Is on top?

And then you will get some zerg surfers that get on any faction with the biggest group to get more AP.

It will just bring more toxicity even more than the current state.

TheFM wrote: »

Royaji wrote: »

Rex-Umbra wrote: »

Yeah they even switched the order of the campaigns for some stupid reason.

Oh, they did it for a very good reason.

Trust me, anti-faction lock players will surely return every "you already have your campaing and it's empty so STFU" right back in pro-faction lock brigade's face.

Karma is one hell of a thing.

Not like no cp players have a choice.

Oh, I didn't have a choice either since faction locks were reintroduced for no cp. Now I can finally play with my friends in every single faction. Single best change made this patch, thanks ZOS!