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Mother Ciannait – Monster Mask (Is that supposed to be 30,000?)

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Mother Ciannait – Monster Mask
1 – Adds 1096 Maximum Magicka
2 – While in combat, casting an ability with a cast time or channeling an ability grants you a damage shield that absorbs 3000 damage for 10 seconds. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.

So this Monster Mask allows you to negate a really weak attack (3000 points of damage) once every 10 seconds IF you're casting or channeling? Am I missing something here? This seems pretty underwhelming for a Monster set.
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  • MartiniDaniels
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    Yes, it is much worse then Iceheart.
  • Savos_Saren
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    Yes, it is much worse then Iceheart.

    I mean- we literally kill all these enemies in a dungeon, face off a huge dungeon boss, and chop off her head/shoulder so that we can use it as armor on the battlefield... only to fend off two light attacks every 10 seconds?
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  • Sandman929
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    Yeah this is a terrible set
  • redspecter23
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    I really don't think the person that designed this set even knows what Iceheart is. If they did, they would have reevaluated this particular set.

    Iceheart is basically procced on cooldown and has a 6 second cooldown and duration (instead of 10) deals aoe damage in addition to the shield and also has a larger shield size. I haven't seen this new dungeon yet, but I'll assume that Iceheart will also be easier to farm than a vet DLC dungeon.

    Someone describe to me the niche, edge case scenario where this new set is better than Iceheart.
    Edited by redspecter23 on January 20, 2020 9:00PM
  • Savos_Saren
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno - did you mean to type 30,000 damage?
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  • SilverIce58
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    I really don't think the person that designed this set even knows what Iceheart is. If they did, they would have reevaluated this particular set.

    Iceheart is basically procced on cooldown and has a 6 second cooldown and duration (instead of 10) deals aoe damage in addition to the shield and also has a larger shield size. I haven't seen this new dungeon yet, but I'll assume that Iceheart will also be easier to farm than a vet DLC dungeon.

    Someone describe to me the niche, edge case scenario where this new set is better than Iceheart.

    Speaking of Iceheart, can we have it bumped to 10k damage absorbed since its a "prettier number?" 9,977 is such an obtuse number.
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  • MartiniDaniels
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    I really don't think the person that designed this set even knows what Iceheart is. If they did, they would have reevaluated this particular set.

    Iceheart is basically procced on cooldown and has a 6 second cooldown and duration (instead of 10) deals aoe damage in addition to the shield and also has a larger shield size. I haven't seen this new dungeon yet, but I'll assume that Iceheart will also be easier to farm than a vet DLC dungeon.

    Someone describe to me the niche, edge case scenario where this new set is better than Iceheart.

    There is no such scenario, this is most probably mistype, otherwise set is utter trash, basically one of the worst if not worst monster helm in the game.
  • Savos_Saren
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    I really don't think the person that designed this set even knows what Iceheart is. If they did, they would have reevaluated this particular set.

    Iceheart is basically procced on cooldown and has a 6 second cooldown and duration (instead of 10) deals aoe damage in addition to the shield and also has a larger shield size. I haven't seen this new dungeon yet, but I'll assume that Iceheart will also be easier to farm than a vet DLC dungeon.

    Someone describe to me the niche, edge case scenario where this new set is better than Iceheart.

    I'm trying to think of the cast/channeled ability that would proc this, too. Um... maybe a Templar jabs or dark flare? Sorc casting Dark Exchange or perhaps hard-casting frags? :D DKs don't really channel/cast. NBs don't. OH! A Warden could summon their pet!
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  • Olauron
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    I'm trying to think of the cast/channeled ability that would proc this, too.
    Meditate and morphs :)
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    Olauron wrote: »
    I'm trying to think of the cast/channeled ability that would proc this, too.
    Meditate and morphs :)

    YAAAASSSS! While I meditate in the midst of battle- I can stop a light attack or two. I just need to stop fighting/tanking every 10 seconds to meditate. Whew! Thank goodness it'll save me less than a heavy attack's worth of damage. lol
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  • Cinbri
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    @ZOS_GinaBruno pls tell us it mistype.
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    3k is weak but 30k would be ridiculous.
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  • Savos_Saren
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    Ironically, if it IS a typo (and it's supposed to say 30,000 damage for 10 seconds) it would be ridiculously OP on a MagPlar. Can you imagine an Altmer MagPlar channeling Puncturing Sweep through crowds?

    5% damage reduction from Altmer passive
    8% damage reduction from Spear Wall
    Heal for 40% of the damage done from Puncturing Sweeps
    and a 30,000 point damage absorption while channeling Puncturing Sweeps.

    I'm not gonna lie... I'd love it.
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  • Inklings
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    This set is nothing more then a Dollar Store Iceheart.


    I expect a nerf incoming to iceheart rather then a buff to this set. Hope im wrong though.
  • Joy_Division
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    Something is definitely not right. Though I doubt it's a missing 0 as 30K shield every 10 seconds would make me wish for the days of Earthgore.
    Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.
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    Mother Ciannait – Monster Mask
    1 – Adds 1096 Maximum Health
    2 – While in combat, casting an ability with a cast time or channeling an ability grants you and 11 other allies around you a damage shield that absorbs 3000 damage for 10 seconds. This effect can occur once every 10 seconds.

    Edited by karekiz on January 20, 2020 9:49PM
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    Bergzorn wrote: »
    3k is weak but 30k would be ridiculous.

    30k/50%=15000 in pvp that with 10sec cd equal to 1500 heal per sec(rapid regen literally), i.e. twice more than Trollking but have zero group utility unlike trollking i.e. cant multiply amount of heal based on number of allies.
    Tbh weird set in any curcimstances.
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    I agree with JD.
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    Bergzorn wrote: »
    3k is weak but 30k would be ridiculous.

    I read this and thought it was a typo.

    The logical correct number is 30k.

    If so, that's busted. A magplar in PvP (even with it halved) would be stupid with sweeps.
  • Konstant_Tel_Necris
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    Agree its some kind joke for vet DLC monster set.
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    This magplar main is monitoring the outcome of this thread.
  • Bergzorn
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    Cinbri wrote: »
    Bergzorn wrote: »
    3k is weak but 30k would be ridiculous.

    30k/50%=15000 in pvp that with 10sec cd equal to 1500 heal per sec(rapid regen literally), i.e. twice more than Trollking but have zero group utility unlike trollking i.e. cant multiply amount of heal based on number of allies.
    Tbh weird set in any curcimstances.

    Lol, just imagine the forum when there are actual 40k shield stack Magsorcs running around in PvP. And as mentioned above, they might not even be the class getting the most out of it.

    If they change it to around 15k before Battle Spirit (from 3k or whatever), it would be balanced with other sets IMO. Balanced, strong on several builds, and boring. Nothing I'd drop my Bloodspawn for.
    Edited by Bergzorn on January 20, 2020 10:37PM
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  • Inklings
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    13k maybe?

    Im really hopping that when i get to finally log into PTS there is gonna be something else attached to this set that was left out of the patch notes.
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    Even 13k would be pretty weak for a Monster set, but not useless, like a 3k dmg shield.
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  • Savos_Saren
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    Just confirmed on the PTS:

    The patch notes are real! It is seriously the weakest helm in the game...
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  • BaiterOfZergs
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    I don’t think it’ll stay this way , no way they release a dlc monster set that’s this terrible. If anything remove the cool down if it’s only going to be 3k, can’t even survive a light attack with that.
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  • Long_Distance
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    Flurry is techniqually a channeled ability, right? Not that anybody would ever use this set though with the current numbers..
  • Inklings
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    This has to be a place holder and they have something else completely different in store, right?
  • Joy_Division
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    Just confirmed on the PTS:

    The patch notes are real! It is seriously the weakest helm in the game...

    I'll give you a few crowns if you run it on your DK next patch :smiley:
    Edited by Joy_Division on January 20, 2020 11:46PM
    Make Rush of Agony "Monsters only." People should not be consecutively crowd controlled in a PvP setting. Period.
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    It's 3k and the visual effect is awful! all procs in this patch look terrible.
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