Coming Soon! PvP Crafted Gear Sets

Taleof2Cities · January 2020

During today’s "Dark Heart of Skyrim" post-announcement show, @ZOS_GinaBruno and @ZOS_JessicaFolsom mentioned that *new* PvP crafted gear sets would be hitting a crafting table in Cyrodiil near you!

Of course, there are absolutely no details on this yet.

HOWEVER, they seemed to indicate that they will be included on the next major patch for Harrowstorm (Update 25) in February. Which means we’ll get an early look on the details next week when the PTS patch notes drop for Harrowstorm.

Therefore, if you’re a PC player ... and have time to play around, test, and duel on PTS with the new gear sets in the coming weeks, the PvP community will appreciate it.

To put it another way, PTS testing of new PvP gear will go a long way to ensure fair but competitive sets will be released ... while avoiding substandard sets that nobody will ever craft (e.g. Adept Rider).

In addition to all of this, there will be a new Artifact siege weapon that players can use when the Antiquities System is released. No details on this either ... and Antiquities won’t be released until late May with the Greymoor Chapter.

Thanks for taking the time to read this post and see you in PvP soon ...

lukoi · January 2020

What qualifies a crafted set as a pvp set per se? A 5th bonus that only impacts players or something?

Taleof2Cities · January 2020

lukoi wrote: »

What qualifies a crafted set as a pvp set per se? A 5th bonus that only impacts players or something?

Yes.

Most likely they include a 5-piece bonus for various PvP playstyles ... such as the current Rewards of the Worthy gear sets, Tel Var gear sets, or Battlegrounds gear sets.

Iskiab · January 2020

lukoi wrote: »

What qualifies a crafted set as a pvp set per se? A 5th bonus that only impacts players or something?

Maybe, IDK, that would make sense. That’s how they did PvE trial sets so they couldn’t be used in pvp. Have to wait for the patch notes.

MajBludd · January 2020

This is the thing that intrigued me the most besides a performance road map

StrandedMonkey · January 2020

unfortunately those new cyrodiil sets are going to be totally useless if they dont provide at least 600 wep damage, armor resistances, or some crazy 5pc effect

nothing really outclasses new moon and fury, but im trying to stay at the least optimistic for their arrival

Iskiab · January 2020

StrandedMonkey wrote: »

unfortunately those new cyrodiil sets are going to be totally useless if they dont provide at least 600 wep damage, armor resistances, or some crazy 5pc effect

nothing really outclasses new moon and fury, but im trying to stay at the least optimistic for their arrival

There’s lots of stuff they could do. The problem moreso is as soon as there’s a decent set that isn’t about just stats people complain like crazy.

Stats run the show mostly because players have driven it that way.

ChunkyCat · January 2020

Ya’ll mofos on the PTS need to queue for BGs. I usually just stand there staring at the queue timer tick away endlessly.

brandonv516 · January 2020

Doesnt matter what it is. If it's good, it will be nerfed to uselessness.

See Curse Eater for a good example.

jadarock · January 2020

Iskiab wrote: »

StrandedMonkey wrote: »

unfortunately those new cyrodiil sets are going to be totally useless if they dont provide at least 600 wep damage, armor resistances, or some crazy 5pc effect

nothing really outclasses new moon and fury, but im trying to stay at the least optimistic for their arrival

There’s lots of stuff they could do. The problem moreso is as soon as there’s a decent set that isn’t about just stats people complain like crazy.

Stats run the show mostly because players have driven it that way.

That's because if it isnt stat dense its useless except for niche and or overland content and we already have piles of those sets sitting around not getting used

AMeanOne · January 2020

I could see them doing sets similar to trials, with a line of increased damage to players instead of minor slayer.

xXMeowMeowXx · January 2020

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

During today’s "Dark Heart of Skyrim" post-announcement show, @ZOS_GinaBruno and @ZOS_JessicaFolsom mentioned that *new* PvP crafted gear sets would be hitting a crafting table in Cyrodiil near you!

Of course, there are absolutely no details on this yet.

HOWEVER, they seemed to indicate that they will be included on the next major patch for Harrowstorm (Update 25) in February. Which means we’ll get an early look on the details next week when the PTS patch notes drop for Harrowstorm.

Therefore, if you’re a PC player ... and have time to play around, test, and duel on PTS with the new gear sets in the coming weeks, the PvP community will appreciate it.

To put it another way, PTS testing of new PvP gear will go a long way to ensure fair but competitive sets will be released ... while avoiding substandard sets that nobody will ever craft (e.g. Adept Rider).

In addition to all of this, there will be a new Artifact siege weapon that players can use when the Antiquities System is released. No details on this either ... and Antiquities won’t be released until late May with the Greymoor Chapter.

Thanks for taking the time to read this post and see you in PvP soon ...

I am looking forward to anything new for PvP. The artifact siege really has my curiosity.

The sets I am sure will follow in the same vein as NMA probably or could they go the Sloads direction again, lmao.

It will be interesting to see what they have come up with, that’s for sure.

Tommy_The_Gun · January 2020

I really, really hope that those crafting station will be in each alliance home base, and not in some random spot in in the wilderness...

Fur_like_snow · January 2020

So lemme guess they’ll release 4-6 sets but One will clearly outperform so the others get shelved by the community. Why do we need more five piece sets but still no two piece arena weapons designed for PvP?

killingspreeb16_ESO · January 2020

Fur_like_snow wrote: »

So lemme guess they’ll release 4-6 sets but One will clearly outperform so the others get shelved by the community. Why do we need more five piece sets but still no two piece arena weapons designed for PvP?

Ye the PvP arena weapon is something i was expecting long time ago,but for some reason if they add more arena weapon they are only gated behind PvE content.

They could add one for every PvP mode too we have Cyro,BG and IC.

Let's see what those new set are,as you said most likely they will be forgotten but who know.

Fur_like_snow · January 2020

This game has SO MANY five piece sets that are completely worthless. Why add more sets to the game when they could just rework the bad ones. PvP needs 2 piece arena weapons not more forgettable five piece.

Long_Distance · January 2020

Would be cool if the crafting station were in Bruma for AD, Crops for DC and Vlast for EP. Can only be crafted in a home campaign, bound when crafted and must be crafted by a Grand Overlord :-) .. oh and can't be copied to place in your resdience!

Brrrofski · January 2020

I just hope they're not dumb 5 pieces like Buffer of the Swift that require no thought into putting a build together

kaithuzar · January 2020

I would totally rock perfected false gods in both pve & pvp!

kaithuzar · January 2020

Brrrofski wrote: »

I just hope they're not dumb 5 pieces like Buffer of the Swift that require no thought into putting a build together

Imo buffer is a pretty balanced set, I think there are better, but there nothing wrong having a “general goto”

Rikumaru · January 2020

brandonv516 wrote: »

Doesnt matter what it is. If it's good, it will be nerfed to uselessness.

See Curse Eater for a good example.

Yeah because curse eater was gonna be a fantastic addition to the game where it allows players to afk purge CCs and any other debuff.

Also last time I checked, new moon's is good. And that didn't get nerfed to uselessness (yet).

Brrrofski · January 2020

kaithuzar wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

I just hope they're not dumb 5 pieces like Buffer of the Swift that require no thought into putting a build together

Imo buffer is a pretty balanced set, I think there are better, but there nothing wrong having a “general goto”

It's too good. Compare it with other defensive sets and it's one of the strongest ones before you start factoring in player penetration and debuffs (especially things like 2h ult). When you factor that in it's super strong. While being light armor which allows you to keep the crit, pen and sustain.

kaithuzar · January 2020

Brrrofski wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

I just hope they're not dumb 5 pieces like Buffer of the Swift that require no thought into putting a build together

Imo buffer is a pretty balanced set, I think there are better, but there nothing wrong having a “general goto”

It's too good. Compare it with other defensive sets and it's one of the strongest ones before you start factoring in player penetration and debuffs (especially things like 2h ult). When you factor that in it's super strong. While being light armor which allows you to keep the crit, pen and sustain.

Idk, I mean when we look at stamina sets like fury where players just tank, tank, tank, ulti dump you for 1mil dmg, I would say that is more over performing than buffer.

What makes something OP is the ability to have your cake & eat it too, not doing 1 thing well...

Juhasow · January 2020

Imagine if they would add equivalent of minor slayer in PvE sets called lets say minor fighter giving 5% more dmg against players

Brrrofski · January 2020

kaithuzar wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

I just hope they're not dumb 5 pieces like Buffer of the Swift that require no thought into putting a build together

Imo buffer is a pretty balanced set, I think there are better, but there nothing wrong having a “general goto”

It's too good. Compare it with other defensive sets and it's one of the strongest ones before you start factoring in player penetration and debuffs (especially things like 2h ult). When you factor that in it's super strong. While being light armor which allows you to keep the crit, pen and sustain.

Idk, I mean when we look at stamina sets like fury where players just tank, tank, tank, ulti dump you for 1mil dmg, I would say that is more over performing than buffer.

What makes something OP is the ability to have your cake & eat it too, not doing 1 thing well...

Yeh, I'm not saying it's the most OP set - there are other sets that are too strong.

My point is, sets like Swift require little thought to get straight up 10% damage mitigation. I'm not a fan of things like that. Especially in an offensive orientated weight.

Iskiab · January 2020

Brrrofski wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

I just hope they're not dumb 5 pieces like Buffer of the Swift that require no thought into putting a build together

Imo buffer is a pretty balanced set, I think there are better, but there nothing wrong having a “general goto”

It's too good. Compare it with other defensive sets and it's one of the strongest ones before you start factoring in player penetration and debuffs (especially things like 2h ult). When you factor that in it's super strong. While being light armor which allows you to keep the crit, pen and sustain.

Idk, I mean when we look at stamina sets like fury where players just tank, tank, tank, ulti dump you for 1mil dmg, I would say that is more over performing than buffer.

What makes something OP is the ability to have your cake & eat it too, not doing 1 thing well...

Yeh, I'm not saying it's the most OP set - there are other sets that are too strong.

My point is, sets like Swift require little thought to get straight up 10% damage mitigation. I'm not a fan of things like that. Especially in an offensive orientated weight.

Why? The set isn’t that good. So basicly you’re saying they should remove all offensive oriented heavy armour sets?

brandonv516 · January 2020

Rikumaru wrote: »

brandonv516 wrote: »

Doesnt matter what it is. If it's good, it will be nerfed to uselessness.

See Curse Eater for a good example.

Yeah because curse eater was gonna be a fantastic addition to the game where it allows players to afk purge CCs and any other debuff.

Also last time I checked, new moon's is good. And that didn't get nerfed to uselessness (yet).

Curse Eater was good, now it is not. And don't worry there's still time for New Moon to get scaled back some.

TheBonesXXX · January 2020

I'm looking forward to it, long over due

KillsAllElves · January 2020

Fur_like_snow wrote: »

This game has SO MANY five piece sets that are completely worthless. Why add more sets to the game when they could just rework the bad ones. PvP needs 2 piece arena weapons not more forgettable five piece.

This is a brilliant statement and should have been apart of an update long ago.

GRXRG · January 2020

Brrrofski wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

kaithuzar wrote: »

Brrrofski wrote: »

I just hope they're not dumb 5 pieces like Buffer of the Swift that require no thought into putting a build together

Imo buffer is a pretty balanced set, I think there are better, but there nothing wrong having a “general goto”

It's too good. Compare it with other defensive sets and it's one of the strongest ones before you start factoring in player penetration and debuffs (especially things like 2h ult). When you factor that in it's super strong. While being light armor which allows you to keep the crit, pen and sustain.

Idk, I mean when we look at stamina sets like fury where players just tank, tank, tank, ulti dump you for 1mil dmg, I would say that is more over performing than buffer.

What makes something OP is the ability to have your cake & eat it too, not doing 1 thing well...

Yeh, I'm not saying it's the most OP set - there are other sets that are too strong.

My point is, sets like Swift require little thought to get straight up 10% damage mitigation. I'm not a fan of things like that. Especially in an offensive orientated weight.

The problems right now is high healing and tankiness combined with 6k 7k weapon damage of stamina builds.
That hasn't much to do with sets, because if you run a nord necro or nord warden in fury new moon you can tank and heal like crazy and land 15k onslaughts fully buffed. This requires big smart thoughts to get? Don't think so, just keep up all buff and vigor and you are "immortal".
Buffer of the swift you just get a line of magicka, and right now running a one line of magicka in a magicka class it means you won't be able to kill anyone, yeah you survive maybe 1 minute more, but no way you have the damage to kill things.
Right now i play a fully max magocks glass cannon magsorc and i cannot kill those permabuff necros and wardens... imagine if i run swift, I just caress their face lol.

Sordidfairytale · January 2020

They'll probably be something like Gives X% bonus to slaying Alliance D while reducing damage by Y% against Alliance A. And 3 versions. You'll be unable to wear a set that reduces damage to your own alliance.