Juhasow wrote: »

BuildMan wrote: »

With how successful this MMO is there is no excuse they can't hire more developers and push out content for both areas of the game. PvP or PvE, we should both be agreeing that conditions are unacceptable from an MMO that ranks 1-3 on most lists (typically 1-2)

Problem is it's not PvP that is succesfull. PvP actually is Achilles heal of ESO when it comes to popularity and ZoS is fully aware of that and dont give much of attention to PvP.[/quote
While I disagree, it doesn't excuse the fact that they are successful enough to not neglect either portion of the game.

Large Underground Areas in Alliance War?

Filled with CHUDs.

ZonasArch wrote: »

Mashille wrote: »

We're getting AN ENTIRE SIEGE WEAPON!!!

Yeah, PvE is getting a new Trial, 4 new dungeons and 40+ hours of new overland content again this year, just like it has gotten every year for the past 4 years. (I mean Morrowind, Summerset, Eleswyr and now Dark Heart. It's all the same content just reskinned with new locations and characters.)

But WOW! ONE SIEGE WEAPON!

Thanks Zenimax, this is what the PvP community has been asking for!!

Here's a revolutionary idea: delete your game and go play overwatch, if you want PvP that bad. That's all they have over there.

And I gave you this genius idea for free. Enjoy.

Nice suggestion man, have you thought about it yourself?

I love the typical responses from hardcore pvers that are more in line with my middle schoolers. I say hardcore because a majority of people do both pvp and pve and are in the grey area. Somehow if the game doesn't fit exactly their "immersion" and desired experience then it can't be discussed or had in game. PVPers express their disappoint, QUICK, sound the alarms! You cannot interfere with MY desired experience!

It's like taking a family, all with their different tastes and interests go out to eat, yet the youngest of them says the family can ONLY go to Chuckie Cheeses and screams and kicks at any other suggestion. As if an MMO is a single player game with ONLY one option. The easy answer is to go to a food court and let people go where they want and of course people will try everything.

I'm not crazy about story lines and diving deep into lore but I'm happy to see the new game mode because I know there are people that are excited about it (I don't know many but we gravitate towards our own communities in game) . Same as housing, I couldn't care less, but I know there is a community around it, so i'm glad to see new furniture items. The selfishness from these players that can't see any growth because their safe space in an mmo.

kargen27 wrote: »

New PvP content would ruin PvP. Players already complain about low population. Add a new area and the population will be even more spread out and the PvP world will appear all but empty.

I disagree: PVP needs to be redesigned and have purpose and a feeling of capturing terrority for reward or resource. The overall objective of Cyrodill is weak. I Would love to see a global territory system and small pvp maps within world zones. Or another layer of IC, which has become extremely active, FINALLY!!! A new battle ground map or even game mode (even a pvp/pve mode) or even a PVE mode within the BG maps. Yet the years of poor operation and BGs being broken have turned people away. Hopefully that is fixed

Aptonoth wrote: »

They should kill pvp so they can balance pve and give full attention towards pve.

Where on the doll did somebody hurt you? People enjoy it and PVPers are a HUGE part of the PVE community. Every monster helm is within PVE. Master weapons, PVE! Undaunted, PVE! A large population within PVE would die off without the PVP base. All of my PVP guilds heavily run PVE because we need to in order to be competitive. The better we are at PVE, the easier it is to get gear. Here's a shocker though, there is more then one community and game, and the WHOLE game isn't centered around you! ***SHOCKER*** Please don't be like the child in my example.

Browart wrote: »

You can only develop game story by doing pve content like in every other mmo so what u expected?

Cool thing is, you can build a game however you want and use whatever creativity that fits the available technology and human and financial capital. They *could* great a new BG mode or map. They could change the objectives and purpose of Cyrodill. They could create smaller pvp zones in the world map. They could revist Daedric weapons, like they said they would then didn't and look at the suggestions. They could change the design of keeps so it's not so cookie cutter. They could add to ic/sewers, (one more floor). The list is endless. Adding one siege has been a suggestion for about five years. But we need regular addition. Again though, let PVPers discuss their desires for the game, and if you don't PVP as a focus, maybe it's a moment to sit back.

idk wrote: »

PvP does not make money for the game. Yes, I know there are performance issues as I deal with them. Regardless, PvE based games like ESO serve themselves better by focusing on the game content that drives revenue and that is PvE.

Yet all pvpers pve because a vast majority of sets are in pve. It's like we boost the pve population just to be able to competitive. Watch though, If they added monster helms to pvp, the forums would flood with tears. How DARE zos FOorCes us to PVEEEP! I would lOVE to see the devs though create a system for PVE sets and monster helms to be earned through PVP. I'd be 100% ok if sets in PVP zones were available in PVE. The guilds I'm in would be so done running PVE content for gear. YES!!!

StrandedMonkey wrote: »

ArchMikem wrote: »

And everyone knows PvPers are going to abuse the Hell out of it somehow thus making Cyrodiil even more not fun for those on the other end of them.

how do you abuse a siege weapon

HAHA, I love these types of comments. Like if players in any content don't abuse any system they can. It's like PVErs are good and wholesome people and PVPers are all toxic. Remember when SS dropped and everyone skipped the boss to just loot. Or when HOF was bugged and people were getting achievements. Or people find ways to bug out bosses or ignore mechanics all together.

Regardless, if zos designs it stupid, it will be used in a stupid way. If they release a dungeon that is bugged, it will be miss used. Gasp!!!!

Iccotak wrote: »

What kind of content do you want to be added to PvP exactly?
New Battleground Maps?
Cyrodil is the warzone - do you want another warzone?

Do you want another zone like Imperial City?

Do you want more / varied gear rewards? Motifs?

What should ZOS add to PvP?

This is exactly what zos should be doing, hey pvpers, what would you like to see. ZOS, higher this person!!

It's sad that for Years, it's literally been for a lot of people. Please just work as if it's not in Alpha

1 solution release veteran campaigns reverting game-play to all the best old patches I guarantee that would bring back player pop! basically vanilla eso!

Faulgor wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

TheFM wrote: »

Joy_Division wrote: »

Would you invest in a small community who has done nothing but complain about every single inclusion into their domain and also screams about imbalances and "over-performing" builds? I wouldn't. And that comes from someone who has multiple 5 stars and would love for this game to be the only thing on my harddrive.

Don't be a game dev. If your solution is to ignore a gametype because people criticize your shortcomings, not only is that petty, but it's absurd.

It would be absurd if the community was actually large (and thus profitable). It isn't and hasn't been for years. That's why all PvPers get each update is a token addition like a seige weapon, a Battleground map, or a few lines of code to change the eligibility entry requirements for a campaign.

If they only cater to large audiences, why do they keep adding vet dungeons and trials with HMs that almost nobody runs?
Is it just so Mike can keep his job? Can't he do anything else in the studio?

Because endgamer PvEers don't get much either. One trial a year, and it probably takes ZOS 5 minutes to add a HM mechanic.

I don;t know what's so hard to comprehend about ZOS's business practices the past 4 years. Have people not been paying attention to the content they release and what they highlight in their press releases? Did you watch the stream yesterday? ZOS choose to showcase Blackreach, the importance of a continuing story, how cool it will be the visit the predecessor of the Winking Skeever, a new system that doesn't involve any combat, i.e. stuff for people who explore and quest in the zone. That's their target audience.

Sorry to be the messenger here, but that's the reality of the situation. I am as competitive as it comes; I hate dumbing down, streamlining, oversimplification, "raising the floor," all of that nonsense so don't read this and think I this is direction I want. It's not. But the reasoning for it is clear.

Everyone knows that your number of forum stars is the true ESO endgame. Almost there!