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TheFM✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Nordic__Knights wrote: »WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »Report them. Tea-bagging is against the TOS.
Ok, lets be real, no its not. If said teabag is followed by hate whispers then yes iti s, but alone , it is not.
shown proof that an single player does it more then once after you die around them and its reportable sorry to say they dont have to do anything more and if they will do it once they sure will again so its not hard to get that proof
I know of many people that have reported teabagging since beta, and it never got someone banned. Even with video. Its obnoxious, yes, but not bannable, it isnt even in the same galaxy as sexual harassment or hatespeech.5 -
zvavi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »
Or from the Code of Conduct:
"2.5 You may not harass, threaten, embarrass, or cause distress to another customer or guest using ZeniMax sites and Services.
So by the same code if conduct, pvping is against it, since you are causing players you kill distress.Look, I dont like it either, but comparing crouching over someones body to all of that is just absurd. If people didnt get mass banned for doing pushups on each others faces way back, then no one will ever get in trouble for this. There are far, far worse things people say in chat compared to this.
So much this. I don't understand why people sexualize it for no reason either.
PS. Why would you want to be ressed in bg i usually want to respawn just to start with all my resources instead of the tiny part i get when ressedEdited by zvavi on December 26, 2019 2:34AM3 -
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✭Nordic__Knights wrote: »WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »Report them. Tea-bagging is against the TOS.
Ok, lets be real, no its not. If said teabag is followed by hate whispers then yes iti s, but alone , it is not.
shown proof that an single player does it more then once after you die around them and its reportable sorry to say they dont have to do anything more and if they will do it once they sure will again so its not hard to get that proof
I know of many people that have reported teabagging since beta, and it never got someone banned. Even with video. Its obnoxious, yes, but not bannable, it isnt even in the same galaxy as sexual harassment or hatespeech.
I would think it takes x amount of doing it before they sent you an warning saying not to be doing it then x amount after for them to give you an 3 day time out then x amount after that for and 30day then again x amount after for full bann0 -
TheFM✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Nordic__Knights wrote: »Nordic__Knights wrote: »WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »Report them. Tea-bagging is against the TOS.
Ok, lets be real, no its not. If said teabag is followed by hate whispers then yes iti s, but alone , it is not.
shown proof that an single player does it more then once after you die around them and its reportable sorry to say they dont have to do anything more and if they will do it once they sure will again so its not hard to get that proof
I know of many people that have reported teabagging since beta, and it never got someone banned. Even with video. Its obnoxious, yes, but not bannable, it isnt even in the same galaxy as sexual harassment or hatespeech.
I would think it takes x amount of doing it before they sent you an warning saying not to be doing it then x amount after for them to give you an 3 day time out then x amount after that for and 30day then again x amount after for full bann
It still wont get them banned. Im not talking a few reports here and there, people have done it en mass with video, over long periods of times. It doenst and will not ever get someone banned, ESPECIALLY since it is a VERY widely accepted practice in pvp gaming across all platforms.0 -
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✭Nordic__Knights wrote: »Nordic__Knights wrote: »WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »Report them. Tea-bagging is against the TOS.
Ok, lets be real, no its not. If said teabag is followed by hate whispers then yes iti s, but alone , it is not.
shown proof that an single player does it more then once after you die around them and its reportable sorry to say they dont have to do anything more and if they will do it once they sure will again so its not hard to get that proof
I know of many people that have reported teabagging since beta, and it never got someone banned. Even with video. Its obnoxious, yes, but not bannable, it isnt even in the same galaxy as sexual harassment or hatespeech.
I would think it takes x amount of doing it before they sent you an warning saying not to be doing it then x amount after for them to give you an 3 day time out then x amount after that for and 30day then again x amount after for full bann
It still wont get them banned. Im not talking a few reports here and there, people have done it en mass with video, over long periods of times. It doenst and will not ever get someone banned, ESPECIALLY since it is a VERY widely accepted practice in pvp gaming across all platforms.
So is using emotes but i know for an fact that you can get an time out for use of them just go hold down crops for 3 hours and everyone you kill use the flip the Bird emote at them and have them report it 😆 😆 😆0 -
TheFM✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Nordic__Knights wrote: »Nordic__Knights wrote: »Nordic__Knights wrote: »WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »Report them. Tea-bagging is against the TOS.
Ok, lets be real, no its not. If said teabag is followed by hate whispers then yes iti s, but alone , it is not.
shown proof that an single player does it more then once after you die around them and its reportable sorry to say they dont have to do anything more and if they will do it once they sure will again so its not hard to get that proof
I know of many people that have reported teabagging since beta, and it never got someone banned. Even with video. Its obnoxious, yes, but not bannable, it isnt even in the same galaxy as sexual harassment or hatespeech.
I would think it takes x amount of doing it before they sent you an warning saying not to be doing it then x amount after for them to give you an 3 day time out then x amount after that for and 30day then again x amount after for full bann
It still wont get them banned. Im not talking a few reports here and there, people have done it en mass with video, over long periods of times. It doenst and will not ever get someone banned, ESPECIALLY since it is a VERY widely accepted practice in pvp gaming across all platforms.
So is using emotes but i know for an fact that you can get an time out for use of them just go hold down crops for 3 hours and everyone you kill use the flip the Bird emote at them and have them report it 😆 😆 😆
I mean, no one is holding you at crops. You can always choose to walk away from them.0 -
Nordic__Knights✭✭✭✭✭
✭Nordic__Knights wrote: »Nordic__Knights wrote: »Nordic__Knights wrote: »WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »Report them. Tea-bagging is against the TOS.
Ok, lets be real, no its not. If said teabag is followed by hate whispers then yes iti s, but alone , it is not.
shown proof that an single player does it more then once after you die around them and its reportable sorry to say they dont have to do anything more and if they will do it once they sure will again so its not hard to get that proof
I know of many people that have reported teabagging since beta, and it never got someone banned. Even with video. Its obnoxious, yes, but not bannable, it isnt even in the same galaxy as sexual harassment or hatespeech.
I would think it takes x amount of doing it before they sent you an warning saying not to be doing it then x amount after for them to give you an 3 day time out then x amount after that for and 30day then again x amount after for full bann
It still wont get them banned. Im not talking a few reports here and there, people have done it en mass with video, over long periods of times. It doenst and will not ever get someone banned, ESPECIALLY since it is a VERY widely accepted practice in pvp gaming across all platforms.
So is using emotes but i know for an fact that you can get an time out for use of them just go hold down crops for 3 hours and everyone you kill use the flip the Bird emote at them and have them report it 😆 😆 😆
I mean, no one is holding you at crops. You can always choose to walk away from them.
oh id follow them i wanted the kills 😆 😆 😆 and crops was my farm of the day no one was getting it at event time 😆 😆 😆0 -
TheFM✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Nordic__Knights wrote: »Nordic__Knights wrote: »Nordic__Knights wrote: »Nordic__Knights wrote: »WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »Report them. Tea-bagging is against the TOS.
Ok, lets be real, no its not. If said teabag is followed by hate whispers then yes iti s, but alone , it is not.
shown proof that an single player does it more then once after you die around them and its reportable sorry to say they dont have to do anything more and if they will do it once they sure will again so its not hard to get that proof
I know of many people that have reported teabagging since beta, and it never got someone banned. Even with video. Its obnoxious, yes, but not bannable, it isnt even in the same galaxy as sexual harassment or hatespeech.
I would think it takes x amount of doing it before they sent you an warning saying not to be doing it then x amount after for them to give you an 3 day time out then x amount after that for and 30day then again x amount after for full bann
It still wont get them banned. Im not talking a few reports here and there, people have done it en mass with video, over long periods of times. It doenst and will not ever get someone banned, ESPECIALLY since it is a VERY widely accepted practice in pvp gaming across all platforms.
So is using emotes but i know for an fact that you can get an time out for use of them just go hold down crops for 3 hours and everyone you kill use the flip the Bird emote at them and have them report it 😆 😆 😆
I mean, no one is holding you at crops. You can always choose to walk away from them.
oh id follow them i wanted the kills 😆 😆 😆 and crops was my farm of the day no one was getting it at event time 😆 😆 😆
lol, thats fine too. xD. I mean, ive been teabagged, and have teabagged enough for a life time in my halo days. Now I just use the salty emote and skamper along. =P0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭This topic always comes down to personal interpretation.
I was quoting the TOS simply to answer the question about what sections of the TOS imply that teabagging isn't allowed.
If you think teabagging is all in good fun/normal gaming behavior, then obviously you'll think those sections don't apply.
If you find teabagging offensive, those are the most likely sections to apply if you make a report to ZOS.
Obviously, the real authority on the matter is ZOS and their approach to this, as with much of their discipline, is inconsistent at best.2 -
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✭Nordic__Knights wrote: »Nordic__Knights wrote: »Nordic__Knights wrote: »Nordic__Knights wrote: »WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »Report them. Tea-bagging is against the TOS.
Ok, lets be real, no its not. If said teabag is followed by hate whispers then yes iti s, but alone , it is not.
shown proof that an single player does it more then once after you die around them and its reportable sorry to say they dont have to do anything more and if they will do it once they sure will again so its not hard to get that proof
I know of many people that have reported teabagging since beta, and it never got someone banned. Even with video. Its obnoxious, yes, but not bannable, it isnt even in the same galaxy as sexual harassment or hatespeech.
I would think it takes x amount of doing it before they sent you an warning saying not to be doing it then x amount after for them to give you an 3 day time out then x amount after that for and 30day then again x amount after for full bann
It still wont get them banned. Im not talking a few reports here and there, people have done it en mass with video, over long periods of times. It doenst and will not ever get someone banned, ESPECIALLY since it is a VERY widely accepted practice in pvp gaming across all platforms.
So is using emotes but i know for an fact that you can get an time out for use of them just go hold down crops for 3 hours and everyone you kill use the flip the Bird emote at them and have them report it 😆 😆 😆
I mean, no one is holding you at crops. You can always choose to walk away from them.
oh id follow them as i wanted the kills 😆 😆 😆 and crops was my farm of the day no one was getting it at event time 😆 😆 😆
lol, thats fine too. xD. I mean, ive been teabagged, and have teabagged enough for a life time in my halo days. Now I just use the salty emote and skamper along. =P
i just kill and walk away now days as i dont like missing out on playing
Edited so not to offend someoneEdited by Nordic__Knights on December 26, 2019 3:21AM0 -
TheFM✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »This topic always comes down to personal interpretation.
I was quoting the TOS simply to answer the question about what sections of the TOS imply that teabagging isn't allowed.
If you think teabagging is all in good fun/normal gaming behavior, then obviously you'll think those sections don't apply.
If you find teabagging offensive, those are the most likely sections to apply if you make a report to ZOS.
Obviously, the real authority on the matter is ZOS and their approach to this, as with much of their discipline, is inconsistent at best.
I could understand if it happened all the time everywhere, but barring that its just people having a laugh. If people got banned from games for teabagging the halo, gears of war, and cod series would not exist anymore =P .0 -
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✭Just a qwessie. How effective is bombing if you're on the ground and block when you see that red circle grow? I happened to be near a flag the other day (though fortunately not near enough, had to res 5 or 6). I'm still getting in to pvp but if you're not in a guild (inconsistent server reliability), learning is slow because there are very little tactics discussed in a zerg apart from "run here, seige there"0 -
Nordic__Knights✭✭✭✭✭
✭Ryath_Waylander wrote: »Just a qwessie. How effective is bombing if you're on the ground and block when you see that red circle grow? I happened to be near a flag the other day (though fortunately not near enough, had to res 5 or 6). I'm still getting in to pvp but if you're not in a guild (inconsistent server reliability), learning is slow because there are very little tactics discussed in a zerg apart from "run here, seige there"
I find it to be better to rolldoge away from area and then attack once bodies hit the floor 😆 😆 😆
But i have an rule about flags , never be close to another and never be on it if 2 others areEdited by Nordic__Knights on December 26, 2019 3:44AM2 -
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✭You've run into a boss farming group and for them you are just an unnecessary body . Of course they are not interested in having you around.
part of them can even change faction and get 50% of these stones back. there are no friends in ic only enemies and spies. if you play with strangers be ready for an attack dont trust them
Edited by oxygen_thief on December 26, 2019 7:37AM1 -
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✭If tea-bagging was against TOS why would it be possible?
It´s not like there´s a /teabag emote. People just use crouch, they can´t really remove that from the game... also you can write stuff in chat and get banned for it (thread the other day whining about it).
IMO t-bagging should be a bannable offense (a week´s ban or so) if you are reported and keep doing it. If done to a friend or someone with disruptive gameplay to begin with (like camping inside door during event), that´s one thing... but in general... It is amazingly juvenile.Edited by MaleAmazon on December 26, 2019 8:04AM7 -
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✭✭✭✭✭If tea-bagging was against TOS why would it be possible? Tea-bagging is not in any way offensive
The first statement makes no sense. Crouching to sneak is possible, and is what people do to tea-bag. But I expect that you know this already.
As to whether or not it's offensive, if it isn't meant to be an insult then why do players do it?I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!7 -
Heelie✭✭✭✭✭SeaGtGruff wrote: »If tea-bagging was against TOS why would it be possible? Tea-bagging is not in any way offensive
The first statement makes no sense. Crouching to sneak is possible, and is what people do to tea-bag. But I expect that you know this already.
As to whether or not it's offensive, if it isn't meant to be an insult then why do players do it?
They could make a cooldown on crouch to prevent this if they wanted. Also what is the problems with trolling/insults in an adult game? This is not a kindergarden.Most OwOrated healer of all time1 -
Nordic__Knights✭✭✭✭✭
✭SeaGtGruff wrote: »If tea-bagging was against TOS why would it be possible? Tea-bagging is not in any way offensive
The first statement makes no sense. Crouching to sneak is possible, and is what people do to tea-bag. But I expect that you know this already.
As to whether or not it's offensive, if it isn't meant to be an insult then why do players do it?
They could make a cooldown on crouch to prevent this if they wanted. Also what is the problems with trolling/insults in an adult game? This is not a kindergarden.
Because no-one is checking id's at end of online sales so tho it has an rating it has no enforcement to insure age is appropriate for said rating0 -
Moonsorrow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I do not really care if get tbagged, as a solo/small scale player it has become such a normal thing to get after they finally get me (if cannot escape lol) on some tower with big enough zerg or bad luck with lag (damn i hate the loadscreen also that happens when keeps flip... sometimes i feel not everyone get the loadscreen since some been pounding me while i was on loading screen).
What is lame sort of is tbaggers at Battlegrounds, just now earlier like couple hours ago i was on bgs with my trusty Stamsorc, was at 22 kills and 0 deaths (morning battles, no premade enemies oohlala, solo queue for me too, good times) and it was about to end for Victory for my team in a minute, one enemy team made it their mission to chase, gave all they got and killed me finally - my sweet zero deaths broken :'( - and 2 of them did spend the whole rez time to tbag lol. I was laughing, atleast they did get that success since not winning.
But.. at next Battleground match, those 2 Bagginz Boyz was put to same team with me, my "Hi boys!
" was met with awkward silence from them.. well until 1 minute later one of them did send a private message saying: "Are you girl? i like girl." <--direct quote. 
In case anyone wonders.. no - no love stories started from that whole awkwardness from Mr Bagginz.
Lessons learned? When you are being a total Bagginz, remember - at next match that same person can be on your team and its gonna be all awkward. Lesson 2, if you do this on IC to team mates - the person can switch and take your sweet tel var. OP, hope you did switch and took some Tel Var?
Wish all have had some classy holidays times? I sure have as you can all see, my Xmas was pretty much ESO PVP, some cookies and horror movies.
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✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »Report them. Tea-bagging is against the TOS.
Sincere question... can someone copy and paste the part(s) of the TOS that says, or implies, that teabagging is illegal? (Illegal... wrong... e.t.c... whatever you want to call it.)
There's a few eso Twitch streamers that WANT other players to teabag others, and they celebrate it. It's obnoxious as heck.
Probably Section 8 of the TOS, wherein you agree not to:
"Take any action, organize, transmit any Content, effectuate or participate in any activity, group, or guild that is harmful, tortuous, abusive, hateful (including “hate speech”), racially, ethnically, religiously or otherwise offensive, obscene, threatening, bullying, vulgar, sexually explicit, defamatory, libelous, infringing, invasive of personal privacy or publicity rights, encourages conduct that would violate a law or is, in a reasonable person's view, objectionable and/or deemed to be in the sole discretion of ZeniMax inappropriate;"
Or from the Code of Conduct:
"2.5 You may not harass, threaten, embarrass, or cause distress to another customer or guest using ZeniMax sites and Services. This includes but is not limited to verbal attacks, unwanted messaging, personal attacks, stalking or any other undesired behavior used to cause discomfort or disrupt another customer's experience. At all times users will refrain from attacking Age, Race, Disability, Sexual Orientation, National Origin, Pregnancy, Gender or any other protected category under Federal or Maryland State law."
As you can guess, some of that is going to come down to personal interpretation. For people who take offense to the sexual angle of teabagging, those are the sections of the TOS and Code I'd point to - the prohibition on obscene/sexually explicit actions and harassing/causing distress.
Yes, it is probably against ToS in the strictest sense. Yes, it is pretty pathetic and immature. Yes, it is probably someone who is trying to get some sort of sad self importance since their real life is fairly pathetic, double so since they are t-bagging a team mate. But would Zos actually take action in these cases?1 -
TheFM✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Nordic__Knights wrote: »SeaGtGruff wrote: »If tea-bagging was against TOS why would it be possible? Tea-bagging is not in any way offensive
The first statement makes no sense. Crouching to sneak is possible, and is what people do to tea-bag. But I expect that you know this already.
As to whether or not it's offensive, if it isn't meant to be an insult then why do players do it?
They could make a cooldown on crouch to prevent this if they wanted. Also what is the problems with trolling/insults in an adult game? This is not a kindergarden.
Because no-one is checking id's at end of online sales so tho it has an rating it has no enforcement to insure age is appropriate for said rating
Regardless, is a 16 + game and its PvP, mocking and light *** talk is normal, if you play this game under that age that is not something the Devs should ever take into account, it's not their job to do the parenting.0 -
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✭VaranisArano wrote: »WhiteCoatSyndrome wrote: »Report them. Tea-bagging is against the TOS.
Sincere question... can someone copy and paste the part(s) of the TOS that says, or implies, that teabagging is illegal? (Illegal... wrong... e.t.c... whatever you want to call it.)
There's a few eso Twitch streamers that WANT other players to teabag others, and they celebrate it. It's obnoxious as heck.
Probably Section 8 of the TOS, wherein you agree not to:
"Take any action, organize, transmit any Content, effectuate or participate in any activity, group, or guild that is harmful, tortuous, abusive, hateful (including “hate speech”), racially, ethnically, religiously or otherwise offensive, obscene, threatening, bullying, vulgar, sexually explicit, defamatory, libelous, infringing, invasive of personal privacy or publicity rights, encourages conduct that would violate a law or is, in a reasonable person's view, objectionable and/or deemed to be in the sole discretion of ZeniMax inappropriate;"
Or from the Code of Conduct:
"2.5 You may not harass, threaten, embarrass, or cause distress to another customer or guest using ZeniMax sites and Services. This includes but is not limited to verbal attacks, unwanted messaging, personal attacks, stalking or any other undesired behavior used to cause discomfort or disrupt another customer's experience. At all times users will refrain from attacking Age, Race, Disability, Sexual Orientation, National Origin, Pregnancy, Gender or any other protected category under Federal or Maryland State law."
As you can guess, some of that is going to come down to personal interpretation. For people who take offense to the sexual angle of teabagging, those are the sections of the TOS and Code I'd point to - the prohibition on obscene/sexually explicit actions and harassing/causing distress.
Yes, it is probably against ToS in the strictest sense. Yes, it is pretty pathetic and immature. Yes, it is probably someone who is trying to get some sort of sad self importance since their real life is fairly pathetic, double so since they are t-bagging a team mate. But would Zos actually take action in these cases?
Id have to say NO but one would never know anyhow inless you know the person or they message you after with hate mail. I do tho believe that reports are tracked and if said player had enough of them it could be they take action but at this point would it be this one act or the X amount of them that made them do something id go with the last because this acts so common but at some point with x amount of reports against 1 person by many they seem to have to do something to get it across that not everyone enjoys it and some take real offense to it0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »
Or from the Code of Conduct:
"2.5 You may not harass, threaten, embarrass, or cause distress to another customer or guest using ZeniMax sites and Services.
So by the same code if conduct, pvping is against it, since you are causing players you kill distress.
Wait.....
If you're feeling distressed for simply getting killed by another player, the question is why the hell are you in a zone where you are able to be killed by another player? You personally made the choice to enter that zone. You went in knowing getting killed by other players was a very high possibility.
So, no, it's not the same thing. You could choose not to enter a player vs. player zone. You take personal responsibility for that choice. If it's causing you distress, you can choose to leave. That's not on the opposing player for acting in a way the zone was intended. You are causing your own distress by being there.
What a ridiculous argument. 🤦♂️8 -
Cerotonin✭✭✭Oh you’re gonna teabag me? Jokes on you mate, I actually like tea. The more the merrier.2 -
zvavi✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Wait.....
If you're feeling distressed for simply getting killed by another player, the question is why the hell are you in a zone where you are able to be killed by another player?
No no, i am fine with it, just that a lot of nerflings that post on the forums prove that such people exist. Then again, i dont get people being butthurt over "tea-bagging" as well, they can just chose not to pay attention :shrug:Edited by zvavi on December 26, 2019 12:17PM0 -
CAB_LifeClass RepresentativeI wouldn’t lose any sleep over it—the perpetrators (and their associated mentality) aren’t concerned with reprimands. In fact, getting a rise out of people is precisely why they do that. Same as a child throwing a rattler for attention. So don’t give them what they’re after. Just rez quick and move on.Fitness/ Gaming/ Fantasy: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2qoTV-kge_bU90i2lgkyvA0 -
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✭I wouldn’t lose any sleep over it—the perpetrators (and their associated mentality) aren’t concerned with reprimands. In fact, getting a rise out of people is precisely why they do that. Same as a child throwing a rattler for attention. So don’t give them what they’re after. Just rez quick and move on.
Sometimes they use it for farming tactics in order to get in your head and make you come back to where their Farm is tooEdited by Nordic__Knights on December 26, 2019 12:22PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Serious question : do people really report people for tea bagging??
I get the very tenuous link to sections of the TOS relating to bullying etc but come on. ZOS themselves put gloating emotes in the game. Additionally how on earth do people think they could police th use of crouch.
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Anyhoo. Back to case in point, I'm with you OP that some players are a nightmare, I'm.all.about faction loyalty but have come to realise many aren't sadly
[edited for baiting/non-constructive comment]Edited by ZOS_RogerJ on December 26, 2019 2:55PMXbox One | EU | EP
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✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »
Or from the Code of Conduct:
"2.5 You may not harass, threaten, embarrass, or cause distress to another customer or guest using ZeniMax sites and Services.
So by the same code if conduct, pvping is against it, since you are causing players you kill distress.
Wait.....
If you're feeling distressed for simply getting killed by another player, the question is why the hell are you in a zone where you are able to be killed by another player? You personally made the choice to enter that zone. You went in knowing getting killed by other players was a very high possibility.
So, no, it's not the same thing. You could choose not to enter a player vs. player zone. You take personal responsibility for that choice. If it's causing you distress, you can choose to leave. That's not on the opposing player for acting in a way the zone was intended. You are causing your own distress by being there.
What a ridiculous argument. 🤦♂️
And crouching is part of the game. So.....0
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