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My tanky DK is standing on a flag with 3 other reds, while I'm blowing my nose. We get double-bombed by two nightblades, so she dies. My faction mates kill the nightblades. Instead of rezzing me, they t-bag me. Sometimes I am so taken aback by the people in this game.
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    an "awesome" to that nb from me =P
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  • WhiteCoatSyndrome
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    Report them. Tea-bagging is against the TOS.
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    Let me get the worlds tiniest violin...
  • GenjiraX
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    What is t-bagging? I mean, I think I know what it means in a broader context but what does it mean in ESO?
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    GenjiraX wrote: »
    What is t-bagging? I mean, I think I know what it means in a broader context but what does it mean in ESO?

    Exactly what it means in any modern video game. Repeatedly crouching on top of a downed opponent/other player in general to express your disrespect towards them. Mimicking the act of putting your balls on their face.
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    fred4 wrote: »
    while I'm blowing my nose.
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  • L_Nici
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    Well to be fair, I would laugh my ass of if I see people that actually die to bombing, it is so easy to prevent. If people cuddle at flags, I write "BOOOM" in chat and a few times a real boom followed its hilarious. But I don't teabag people, I feel like that is just something a child would do.
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    Royaji wrote: »
    Let me get the worlds tiniest violin...
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    PvP feels like it's dying lately, so few people are around (not just Xmas and not just IC). This was in IC. If you're running around, there, you're going to rely on your faction mates from time to time or you're all going to end up in the same spot anyway, the place where the action is. Do you really want to play with people, who have shown you such disdain? Not me. If they were from another faction, I could at least have a go at kicking their butt.
    Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on December 26, 2019 7:08PM
  • ForzaRammer
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    So op, were you bottom score at that point or no?
    If you were sandbagging the team, i see no problem with what they did.
    If you were not sandbagging the team, well you just got unlucky.
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    fred4 wrote: »
    Royaji wrote: »
    Let me get the worlds tiniest violin...
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    PvP feels like it's dying lately, so few people are around (not just Xmas and not just IC). This was in IC. If you're running around, there, you're going to rely on your faction mates from time to time or you're all going to end up in the same spot anyway, the place where the action is. Do you really want to play with people, who have shown you such disdain? Not me. If they were from another faction, I could at least have a go at kicking their butt.

    Totally agree and EVERY TIME I bring this up, I'm the one treated like I'm crazy. wtf. NO I do not want to be teabagged by fellow alliance members. It's beyond juvenile.
    Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on December 26, 2019 7:08PM
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    fred4 wrote: »
    My tanky DK is standing on a flag with 3 other reds, while I'm blowing my nose. We get double-bombed by two nightblades, so she dies. My faction mates kill the nightblades. Instead of rezzing me, they t-bag me. Sometimes I am so taken aback by the people in this game.

    Go in with a small man group of your friends and/or guildies. It's much more fun.
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    fred4 wrote: »
    Royaji wrote: »
    Let me get the worlds tiniest violin...
    Quoted post has been removed.
    PvP feels like it's dying lately, so few people are around (not just Xmas and not just IC). This was in IC. If you're running around, there, you're going to rely on your faction mates from time to time or you're all going to end up in the same spot anyway, the place where the action is. Do you really want to play with people, who have shown you such disdain? Not me. If they were from another faction, I could at least have a go at kicking their butt.

    Oh, IC, this explains it even better. You've run into a boss farming group and for them you are just an unnecessary body who will leach Tel Var. Of course they are not interested in having you around. So yeah, stop thinking that just because people are on your faction they are your teammates. ESO failed miserably at encouraging faction camaraderie so this is just a reality you have to deal with.
    Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on December 26, 2019 7:09PM
  • Rave the Histborn
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    Royaji wrote: »
    GenjiraX wrote: »
    What is t-bagging? I mean, I think I know what it means in a broader context but what does it mean in ESO?

    Exactly what it means in any modern video game. Repeatedly crouching on top of a downed opponent/other player in general to express your disrespect towards them. Mimicking the act of putting your balls on their face.

    But what if I play an Argonian? Is their physiology the same
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    an "awesome" to that nb from me =P

    Absolutely. Instead of helping their faction out, they have bombed a resource, between the two of them have managed to kill a grand total of one player (who was momentarily AFK) before getting cleaned up.

    A true asset to their team....
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    Royaji wrote: »
    GenjiraX wrote: »
    What is t-bagging? I mean, I think I know what it means in a broader context but what does it mean in ESO?

    Exactly what it means in any modern video game. Repeatedly crouching on top of a downed opponent/other player in general to express your disrespect towards them. Mimicking the act of putting your balls on their face.

    But what if I play an Argonian? Is their physiology the same

    I do not happen to be an expert in argonian anotomy (Thank god!). Consider stopping by Withered Tree inn in Riften on a weekend night. I believe you will be able to find someone who will provide an in-depth answer to your question there.
  • LoneStar2911
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    Report them. Tea-bagging is against the TOS.

    Sincere question... can someone copy and paste the part(s) of the TOS that says, or implies, that teabagging is illegal? (Illegal... wrong... e.t.c... whatever you want to call it.)
    There's a few eso Twitch streamers that WANT other players to teabag others, and they celebrate it. It's obnoxious as heck.
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    L_Nici wrote: »
    Well to be fair, I would laugh my ass of if I see people that actually die to bombing, it is so easy to prevent. If people cuddle at flags, I write "BOOOM" in chat and a few times a real boom followed its hilarious. But I don't teabag people, I feel like that is just something a child would do.

    I pretty much agree with this. The amount of morons who stay mounted on resource is mind boggling, they deserve to die.

    OP is right though, those people on his own faction doing that are dumb. Do what we did, mark their names down and hunt them on a different faction. Most of the people who act like dinks do it because there’s no repercussions.

    There are those types on every faction, figure out who they are and it makes pvp a lot more fun.
    Edited by Iskiab on December 25, 2019 11:37PM
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    I don't understand why your faction teabags you?

    Though I don't understand anyone who teabags people, this game is even rated "mature" :D
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    Tea baggers are juvenile idiots confirmed. I’d just report them and target them on an alt. I believe one of the PvP add ons has a kill on sight function lol.

    I have to wonder why anyone would expect faction camaraderie. I’ve PvPd for years and approx five minutes of zone chat will tell you that quite of few of your faction mates seem to hate their own faction players more than their actual opponents.

    Apparently the vast majority of their faction aren’t up to their standard.

    And then they whine that no one seems to be doing what they think they should be doing ah ha ha lol.
    Edited by AndyMac on December 26, 2019 12:16AM
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    Yeah, glad I never bothered with PVP in this game.
  • VaranisArano
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    Amber322 wrote: »
    Report them. Tea-bagging is against the TOS.

    Sincere question... can someone copy and paste the part(s) of the TOS that says, or implies, that teabagging is illegal? (Illegal... wrong... e.t.c... whatever you want to call it.)
    There's a few eso Twitch streamers that WANT other players to teabag others, and they celebrate it. It's obnoxious as heck.

    Probably Section 8 of the TOS, wherein you agree not to:

    "Take any action, organize, transmit any Content, effectuate or participate in any activity, group, or guild that is harmful, tortuous, abusive, hateful (including “hate speech”), racially, ethnically, religiously or otherwise offensive, obscene, threatening, bullying, vulgar, sexually explicit, defamatory, libelous, infringing, invasive of personal privacy or publicity rights, encourages conduct that would violate a law or is, in a reasonable person's view, objectionable and/or deemed to be in the sole discretion of ZeniMax inappropriate;"

    Or from the Code of Conduct:
    "2.5 You may not harass, threaten, embarrass, or cause distress to another customer or guest using ZeniMax sites and Services. This includes but is not limited to verbal attacks, unwanted messaging, personal attacks, stalking or any other undesired behavior used to cause discomfort or disrupt another customer's experience. At all times users will refrain from attacking Age, Race, Disability, Sexual Orientation, National Origin, Pregnancy, Gender or any other protected category under Federal or Maryland State law."


    As you can guess, some of that is going to come down to personal interpretation. For people who take offense to the sexual angle of teabagging, those are the sections of the TOS and Code I'd point to - the prohibition on obscene/sexually explicit actions and harassing/causing distress.
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    Amber322 wrote: »
    Report them. Tea-bagging is against the TOS.

    Sincere question... can someone copy and paste the part(s) of the TOS that says, or implies, that teabagging is illegal? (Illegal... wrong... e.t.c... whatever you want to call it.)
    There's a few eso Twitch streamers that WANT other players to teabag others, and they celebrate it. It's obnoxious as heck.

    Probably Section 8 of the TOS, wherein you agree not to:

    "Take any action, organize, transmit any Content, effectuate or participate in any activity, group, or guild that is harmful, tortuous, abusive, hateful (including “hate speech”), racially, ethnically, religiously or otherwise offensive, obscene, threatening, bullying, vulgar, sexually explicit, defamatory, libelous, infringing, invasive of personal privacy or publicity rights, encourages conduct that would violate a law or is, in a reasonable person's view, objectionable and/or deemed to be in the sole discretion of ZeniMax inappropriate;"

    Or from the Code of Conduct:
    "2.5 You may not harass, threaten, embarrass, or cause distress to another customer or guest using ZeniMax sites and Services. This includes but is not limited to verbal attacks, unwanted messaging, personal attacks, stalking or any other undesired behavior used to cause discomfort or disrupt another customer's experience. At all times users will refrain from attacking Age, Race, Disability, Sexual Orientation, National Origin, Pregnancy, Gender or any other protected category under Federal or Maryland State law."


    As you can guess, some of that is going to come down to personal interpretation. For people who take offense to the sexual angle of teabagging, those are the sections of the TOS and Code I'd point to - the prohibition on obscene/sexually explicit actions and harassing/causing distress.

    Would pelting people with mudballs be lumped in with teabagging? People get butthurt over both.
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  • Nordic__Knights
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    Amber322 wrote: »
    Report them. Tea-bagging is against the TOS.

    Sincere question... can someone copy and paste the part(s) of the TOS that says, or implies, that teabagging is illegal? (Illegal... wrong... e.t.c... whatever you want to call it.)
    There's a few eso Twitch streamers that WANT other players to teabag others, and they celebrate it. It's obnoxious as heck.

    Probably Section 8 of the TOS, wherein you agree not to:

    "Take any action, organize, transmit any Content, effectuate or participate in any activity, group, or guild that is harmful, tortuous, abusive, hateful (including “hate speech”), racially, ethnically, religiously or otherwise offensive, obscene, threatening, bullying, vulgar, sexually explicit, defamatory, libelous, infringing, invasive of personal privacy or publicity rights, encourages conduct that would violate a law or is, in a reasonable person's view, objectionable and/or deemed to be in the sole discretion of ZeniMax inappropriate;"

    Or from the Code of Conduct:
    "2.5 You may not harass, threaten, embarrass, or cause distress to another customer or guest using ZeniMax sites and Services. This includes but is not limited to verbal attacks, unwanted messaging, personal attacks, stalking or any other undesired behavior used to cause discomfort or disrupt another customer's experience. At all times users will refrain from attacking Age, Race, Disability, Sexual Orientation, National Origin, Pregnancy, Gender or any other protected category under Federal or Maryland State law."


    As you can guess, some of that is going to come down to personal interpretation. For people who take offense to the sexual angle of teabagging, those are the sections of the TOS and Code I'd point to - the prohibition on obscene/sexually explicit actions and harassing/causing distress.

    Would pelting people with mudballs be lumped in with teabagging? People get butthurt over both.

    If not in event time and area it could be as its not an friendly act and all
    Same goes for using flip the Bird emote at an player(s) you kill defending an flag in pvp
    Edited by Nordic__Knights on December 26, 2019 2:15AM
  • VaranisArano
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    Amber322 wrote: »
    Report them. Tea-bagging is against the TOS.

    Sincere question... can someone copy and paste the part(s) of the TOS that says, or implies, that teabagging is illegal? (Illegal... wrong... e.t.c... whatever you want to call it.)
    There's a few eso Twitch streamers that WANT other players to teabag others, and they celebrate it. It's obnoxious as heck.

    Probably Section 8 of the TOS, wherein you agree not to:

    "Take any action, organize, transmit any Content, effectuate or participate in any activity, group, or guild that is harmful, tortuous, abusive, hateful (including “hate speech”), racially, ethnically, religiously or otherwise offensive, obscene, threatening, bullying, vulgar, sexually explicit, defamatory, libelous, infringing, invasive of personal privacy or publicity rights, encourages conduct that would violate a law or is, in a reasonable person's view, objectionable and/or deemed to be in the sole discretion of ZeniMax inappropriate;"

    Or from the Code of Conduct:
    "2.5 You may not harass, threaten, embarrass, or cause distress to another customer or guest using ZeniMax sites and Services. This includes but is not limited to verbal attacks, unwanted messaging, personal attacks, stalking or any other undesired behavior used to cause discomfort or disrupt another customer's experience. At all times users will refrain from attacking Age, Race, Disability, Sexual Orientation, National Origin, Pregnancy, Gender or any other protected category under Federal or Maryland State law."


    As you can guess, some of that is going to come down to personal interpretation. For people who take offense to the sexual angle of teabagging, those are the sections of the TOS and Code I'd point to - the prohibition on obscene/sexually explicit actions and harassing/causing distress.

    Would pelting people with mudballs be lumped in with teabagging? People get butthurt over both.

    I suspect those folks would report mudballing under a different part of Section 8 of the TOS, wherein we agree not to: "Harass, stalk, threaten, embarrass, spam or do anything else to another user of any Services that is unwanted, such as repeatedly sending unwanted messages or making personal attacks or statements about race, sexual orientation, religion, heritage, etc.;"

    Again, that gets into personal definitions of harassing, stalking, or unwanted behavior. As a general rule of thumb, I figure that if it bothers someone enough that they report you for it, ZOS will generally take it seriously even though you might do the same action to a dozen people who don't care. For a particular example, think about the mudball trolling at outfit stations when those came out - some people shrugged it off while others found it extremely disruptive to their play.

    Its also one of the reasons I don't teabag, ever. I can't control how the other person views it and the other person can't be expected to magically know my intentions for good or ill.

    (That being said, I do get annoyed if I eat the extra damage from a Vicious Death proc because someone wasn't paying attention on a flag and dies. Sure, sometimes you gotta blow your nose, but hanging out on a flag as bomber bait is a real bad time to AFK.)
  • TheFM
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    Report them. Tea-bagging is against the TOS.

    Ok, lets be real, no its not. If said teabag is followed by hate whispers then yes iti s, but alone , it is not.
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    Come over to the dark side and taste the forbidden fruit.

    For dark side I mean AD and for fruit I mean banana......wait....that sounds even worst. Forget what I said, just go out with guildmate.
  • TheFM
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    Amber322 wrote: »
    Report them. Tea-bagging is against the TOS.

    Sincere question... can someone copy and paste the part(s) of the TOS that says, or implies, that teabagging is illegal? (Illegal... wrong... e.t.c... whatever you want to call it.)
    There's a few eso Twitch streamers that WANT other players to teabag others, and they celebrate it. It's obnoxious as heck.

    Probably Section 8 of the TOS, wherein you agree not to:

    "Take any action, organize, transmit any Content, effectuate or participate in any activity, group, or guild that is harmful, tortuous, abusive, hateful (including “hate speech”), racially, ethnically, religiously or otherwise offensive, obscene, threatening, bullying, vulgar, sexually explicit, defamatory, libelous, infringing, invasive of personal privacy or publicity rights, encourages conduct that would violate a law or is, in a reasonable person's view, objectionable and/or deemed to be in the sole discretion of ZeniMax inappropriate;"

    Or from the Code of Conduct:
    "2.5 You may not harass, threaten, embarrass, or cause distress to another customer or guest using ZeniMax sites and Services. This includes but is not limited to verbal attacks, unwanted messaging, personal attacks, stalking or any other undesired behavior used to cause discomfort or disrupt another customer's experience. At all times users will refrain from attacking Age, Race, Disability, Sexual Orientation, National Origin, Pregnancy, Gender or any other protected category under Federal or Maryland State law."


    As you can guess, some of that is going to come down to personal interpretation. For people who take offense to the sexual angle of teabagging, those are the sections of the TOS and Code I'd point to - the prohibition on obscene/sexually explicit actions and harassing/causing distress.

    Look, I dont like it either, but comparing crouching over someones body to all of that is just absurd. If people didnt get mass banned for doing pushups on each others faces way back, then no one will ever get in trouble for this. There are far, far worse things people say in chat compared to this.
    Edited by TheFM on December 26, 2019 2:28AM
  • Nordic__Knights
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    TheFM wrote: »
    Report them. Tea-bagging is against the TOS.

    Ok, lets be real, no its not. If said teabag is followed by hate whispers then yes iti s, but alone , it is not.

    shown proof that an single player does it more then once after you die around them and its reportable sorry to say they dont have to do anything more and if they will do it once they sure will again so its not hard to get that proof
    Edited by Nordic__Knights on December 26, 2019 2:25AM
  • tim99
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    Probably Section 8 of the TOS, wherein you agree not to:

    "Take any action, organize, transmit any Content, effectuate or participate in any activity, group, or guild that is harmful, tortuous, abusive, hateful (including “hate speech”), racially, ethnically, religiously or otherwise offensive, obscene, threatening, bullying, vulgar, sexually explicit, defamatory, libelous, infringing, invasive of personal privacy or publicity rights, encourages conduct that would violate a law or is, in a reasonable person's view, objectionable and/or deemed to be in the sole discretion of ZeniMax inappropriate;"

    Or from the Code of Conduct:
    "2.5 You may not harass, threaten, embarrass, or cause distress to another customer or guest using ZeniMax sites and Services. This includes but is not limited to verbal attacks, unwanted messaging, personal attacks, stalking or any other undesired behavior used to cause discomfort or disrupt another customer's experience. At all times users will refrain from attacking Age, Race, Disability, Sexual Orientation, National Origin, Pregnancy, Gender or any other protected category under Federal or Maryland State law."


    As you can guess, some of that is going to come down to personal interpretation. For people who take offense to the sexual angle of teabagging, those are the sections of the TOS and Code I'd point to - the prohibition on obscene/sexually explicit actions and harassing/causing distress.


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