I just wish ZOS stopped constantly hurting my PvP playstyle just because some PvEers are unhappy.

*sighs*

Seriously though why dont they just tweek battle spirit instead of blanket nerfs that effect both aspects of the game?

^ Another NB main spotted.

Sorcs worth their salt can kite almost anyone and has huge burst potential in combos, and has a heal as powerful in strength of templars burst. Requires double bar but also does not require facing who they want to heal. Inb4 "how you kite gap closers!?" Good sorcs have done it since the beginning of time. LOS makes gap closers null. Streak is shorter range, but not if you are long gone before they get within 15m of you.

Wardens are quietly laughing in the corner. Necros are considered the weakest class but some of the trolliest, tankiest players I run into are magcros, who can just hold off until their ulti combo. I ran my stamcro last night and there are annoyances with the class that still needs cleaned up, but I did have some killing power and at times did as well as my magplar, but it's very different to play and I'd have to get used to it.

NBs though. If I'm on my magplar, that's certainly my most killed. They're still everywhere. I can see why they wine as most of them when I have a detect pot up, which is practically all the time with it being on spell power pots and entropy sucking now; just die crouching like they are in a fetal position as 1 trick didn't work. I intentionally run a little lower health than the rest of my group of regular PVPers and chuckle when they try me. Good ones use shadow image, temporal gaurd and/or at least a ton of speed and can still get away. Most die looking like they're shitting themselves because they built all damage and left cloak as their only defense.

It's kind of odd seeing a DK talking about heal tanking which the OP sounds like. .That's really what DKs do. Especially stam DK. What would be left of DK if they cant get that major mending and HOTs going? It's really kind of sad that they are that upset about dizzying being nerfed they haven't bothered to just ask for counters. Need more sources of defile. DKs being the DOT class while having DOTs all be.pretty pathetic, maybe their DOTs should be 4 seconds yet extremely powerful so their damage is done before purges. Why should DK be relying on a weapon spammable any more and not be worried about how terrible a joke poopfist was. Just give the class stam whip already!

Actually; having a DK as well and playing a DOT spec in SWTOR before; I'd love for DOTs, even if purged; to have and leave a residual effect for the duration of the DOT to where sTAMWHIP! as well as magwhip, would do what they do now as well as refresh their DOTs.

I dont know, but it's all about the symptoms rather than understanding the cause in nerf threads.

Stratti wrote: »

Stebarnz wrote: »

L2P issue!

I don't fear templars in pvp at all, if I'm solo against a group of 4 any class ill die. (unless they potatoes).

Tell us what build you are using that makes templars such a problem for you.

Not an overwhelming number of templars anymore on PC-NA, you can deal with them, if you can!

I don't think I was very clear. Templars have too much healing power and still the ability to do damage albeit low. They can out last me in a fight no problem. I am really sick of getting their health low and watching them heal through an execute and dragon leap. Also the ridiculous ability to sprint and heal up and hide away for a bit makes it annoying. The problem is that they are unkillable (close to) not that they can kill us. Problem is the healing builds are overpowered now without Dizzy and Dot Damage - replaced with bs like they have with stone fist.

Ok some things you have said are suspect but this is one ill agree with, healing is overtuned at the min and due to templars having good heal powers it means when built properly they are tough to burst down or grind down.

PVP overall is better without dizzy knock back, as it is you can build with the off balance new dizzy if you know how to.

When I play on my templar, NB's are easy kills but I struggle against sorc and dk, necro and warden is an even fight for me, but that is how I have built for my favoured playstyle on magplar.

ZOS can tune healing down without affecting pve as 90% of content doesn't need healers (it should be called support role no healer) Only trials and a couple of dlc dungeons on HM need a dedicated healer.

That would bring healing inline, so saying nerf templar is wrong what you should be saying is tone down healing by the same % you toned down dots.

What makes Templar’s good is that the other classes have been nerfed into wet noodles.

Look at Templar passives vs other Class passives.

Stamplar vs StamSorc is a perfect example. Stam Sorc passives straight suck. Can you be a good player and be effective with a StamSorc? Sure. But a good Stamplar will beat a good StamSorc because the passive math favors the Stamplar. That’s just fact.

Right now, dots are garbage. Guess what class has the best direct damage spammable? Templars. Factor in their juicy class passives, and whomp, Templar’s are hard to beat.

I would say StamDks are next in line with perfect synergies between class skills and passive to be considered OP.

Stamblades rely too much on Magicka skills, which gimps their tool kit. On top of that, their class skills have slowly been reworked into making them tanky at the expense of burst, but that tankyness is no where near as effective as a Templar or Dk.

Stamwarden burst is wayyy toooooo slowwww. Can you make it work? Of course. But it’s no where near as effective as the direct class skills for Stamplar.

StamCro sucks. Be a MagCro.

Stratti wrote: »

barney2525 wrote: »

what we need to do is make all damage completely equal and all defense completely equal and all healing completely equal for all characters and get rid of the various class skill lines and just have one single class skill line and just have one set of race passives so everybody is on even footing

No More Uniqueness!


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While I appreciate you trying to be funny , as with others you tend to look for the negative or the snarky remark rather than use critical analysis.

With the removal of Dizzy and the dampening of Dots we have seen tanky builds that hit like wet noodles running around near unkillable.

Instead of attacking or introducing snark why not directly comment on the proposition. Otherwise you are just trolling and self-gratifying.

And all you want to do is be vindictive and nerf others because something you used got nerfed instead of asking for the devs to restore back your broken cheese.

Icky wrote: »

I shot a templar from range and he sat there jabbing the air until he died. I bet it's people like him that got everything else nerfed and templars buffed over the year.

Typical coward NB moves are what got Nbs nerfed.

Icky wrote: »

I shot a templar from range and he sat there jabbing the air until he died. I bet it's people like him that got everything else nerfed and templars buffed over the year.

I think jabs need a small change. Like if no target is hit by current jab tick, that spear flies away as homing missile (can't be dodged, aoe impact) to nearest enemy, 41 m range this will provide ranged class spammable which templar lacks.

AgaTheGreat wrote: »

They've already been nerfed 🙄 Just get better at this game instead of calling for nerfs to everything that killed you.

-Templar

People saying magplars are slow but dont every move they have snare and dont they have gap closer? Also dont most utilize mist form?

Stratti wrote: »

So is the consensus that Templars need to be nerfed for PVP

Seems that it the case given the majority of people on the thread have expressed as much. I am not sure but let's hope it happens soon.

I beg to differ, it won't happen because it isn't so just because you say it is.