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NERF the TEMPLARS

  • Stratti
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    I don’t see how you can complain about Templar’s not dying when you play a stam dk which is more annoying in that department.

    DK requires more skill and more resources to execute so can be killed.

    I'm not saying the Templars can necessarily kill you easily - it is their ability to heal and spam Puncturing Sweep indefinitely.

    Often now I will ignore them in a Chaos Ball or Deathmatch as it is boring and they inevitably run off and heal and come back.

    If it is anything other than those they are literally damage sinks.

    I'm all for Nerfs to survivability - that makes it more fun. When you nerf the ability to take down healing classes , you end up with these pillow fights we are having.
  • GrimTheReaper45
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    dont see templar as over preforming. Everything else is just complete trash this patch
  • BNOC
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    You're talking about Magplars over Stamplars for starters? hahahaha

    Magplars aint healing to full HP, using the most avoidable spammble in game, whilst they're on tank builds.

    If you want big damage, enough damage to kill dodge rolling, consistently jumping, one-shot stam builds (That run that destructed dizzying (LOL) with absolute finesse) you cannot that tanky.

    This is literally a "BUFF DIZZY" post - Someone said you're a stamDK? You must be absolute garbage, there's stamdks on console hitting 30k+ burst in a second with that destructed dizzy, leap, executioner.

    Stratti wrote: »
    DK requires more skill and more resources to execute so can be killed.

    Dodge roll (proc off balance), hit a 7k heavy into a 6k Dizzying, cast a 14k leap and weave into a 12k executioner - Good night Irene.

    Tough stuff, I can get clips of it happening later if you need to see how to do the most basic 3 button combo in game.


    Got you a quick one right now so you can get started:
    https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/marcus-justicia/video/82184316 - Stam Sorc doing it
    https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/marcus-justicia/video/82184363 - Stam Dk against probably the best stamblade on Xbox (featured in those 1vX highlight reels a few times)
    https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/marcus-justicia/video/81641220
    https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/marcus-justicia/video/82184408

    If you need more you can click his name and watch them all.

    Get with it.
    Edited by BNOC on November 26, 2019 10:14AM
    vMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
    578,000 - 36 Minutes 58 Seconds (Top 2 World?)

    vMSA - Magplar - Xbox NA
    569,000 - 40 minutes (350CP, Non optimised runs)
  • Stratti
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    BNOC wrote: »
    You're talking about Magplars over Stamplars for starters? hahahaha

    Magplars aint healing to full HP, using the most avoidable spammble in game, whilst they're on tank builds.

    If you want big damage, enough damage to kill dodge rolling, consistently jumping, one-shot stam builds (That run that destructed dizzying (LOL) with absolute finesse) you cannot that tanky.

    This is literally a "BUFF DIZZY" post - Someone said you're a stamDK? You must be absolute garbage, there's stamdks on console hitting 30k+ burst in a second with that destructed dizzy, leap, executioner.

    Stratti wrote: »
    DK requires more skill and more resources to execute so can be killed.

    Dodge roll (proc off balance), hit a 7k heavy into a 6k Dizzying, cast a 14k leap and weave into a 12k executioner - Good night Irene.

    Tough stuff, I can get clips of it happening later if you need to see how to do the most basic 3 button combo in game.


    Got you a quick one right now so you can get started:
    https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/marcus-justicia/video/82184316

    In your dreams buddy that you can do that. Maybe in a Dummy or maybe vs a nearly dead opponent. Here is how that goes when you try.

    The heavy is shielded and healed through, the 6k dizzy doesnt even get through their shielding and heals. I have down so many leaps where their health has not moved because they pre-healed

    You my friend are a typical person in this game that is not well liked at all. Your answer is L2P.

    So... I can play fine. I am not amazing but certainly pull my own weight.

    Are you suggesting that Templars are fine? Is that what you ad hominem rant is.

    Was there a point in all that mindless self promotion. To me it was the following

    "please please please click my link I am amazing"

    Here is the thing - I am more than interested in listening to other players but not rude people who are more about self promotion and ad hominem - you may want to think about that as you try to grow your following
  • Stratti
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    dont see templar as over preforming. Everything else is just complete trash this patch

    Yeah more like this bud. BG's were fun before the patch , now it is a boring wet noodle contest with max heals and tanky builds.
  • BNOC
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    Stratti wrote: »
    In your dreams buddy that you can do that. Maybe in a Dummy or maybe vs a nearly dead opponent. Here is how that goes when you try.

    You don't have to wonder about any of it, I added about 5 clips up top.

    Get on top of your class and then come complain for nerfs to others, not before.

    Ps. You said self promotion haha, they're not my clips, that's what our whole server is doing - I'm helping you, not promoting myself at all.
    Edited by BNOC on November 26, 2019 10:17AM
    vMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
    578,000 - 36 Minutes 58 Seconds (Top 2 World?)

    vMSA - Magplar - Xbox NA
    569,000 - 40 minutes (350CP, Non optimised runs)
  • MartiniDaniels
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    BNOC wrote: »
    You're talking about Magplars over Stamplars for starters? hahahaha

    Magplars aint healing to full HP, using the most avoidable spammble in game, whilst they're on tank builds.

    If you want big damage, enough damage to kill dodge rolling, consistently jumping, one-shot stam builds (That run that destructed dizzying (LOL) with absolute finesse) you cannot that tanky.

    This is literally a "BUFF DIZZY" post - Someone said you're a stamDK? You must be absolute garbage, there's stamdks on console hitting 30k+ burst in a second with that destructed dizzy, leap, executioner.

    Stratti wrote: »
    DK requires more skill and more resources to execute so can be killed.

    Dodge roll (proc off balance), hit a 7k heavy into a 6k Dizzying, cast a 14k leap and weave into a 12k executioner - Good night Irene.

    Tough stuff, I can get clips of it happening later if you need to see how to do the most basic 3 button combo in game.


    Got you a quick one right now so you can get started:
    https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/marcus-justicia/video/82184316

    Didn't see he's on a stamsorc there (which hits significantly less) I'll get some more.

    Where do you find those 14k leaps? You were in divines?
    Leap is blockable. If you didn't block it this is either your own fault or server de-sync.
    Basically it is not that leap that powerful, it is broken knockback de-sync when some time warp or singularity or whatever happens and you see 4-5 GCD hits in recap while for you it looked like screen freeze for 2-3 seconds and then bum you are dead from full HP without understanding what's just happened.
  • Qbiken
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    BNOC wrote: »
    You're talking about Magplars over Stamplars for starters? hahahaha

    Magplars aint healing to full HP, using the most avoidable spammble in game, whilst they're on tank builds.

    If you want big damage, enough damage to kill dodge rolling, consistently jumping, one-shot stam builds (That run that destructed dizzying (LOL) with absolute finesse) you cannot that tanky.

    This is literally a "BUFF DIZZY" post - Someone said you're a stamDK? You must be absolute garbage, there's stamdks on console hitting 30k+ burst in a second with that destructed dizzy, leap, executioner.

    Stratti wrote: »
    DK requires more skill and more resources to execute so can be killed.

    Dodge roll (proc off balance), hit a 7k heavy into a 6k Dizzying, cast a 14k leap and weave into a 12k executioner - Good night Irene.

    Tough stuff, I can get clips of it happening later if you need to see how to do the most basic 3 button combo in game.


    Got you a quick one right now so you can get started:
    https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/marcus-justicia/video/82184316

    Didn't see he's on a stamsorc there (which hits significantly less) I'll get some more.

    Where do you find those 14k leaps? You were in divines?
    Leap is blockable. If you didn't block it this is either your own fault or server de-sync.
    Basically it is not that leap that powerful, it is broken knockback de-sync when some time warp or singularity or whatever happens and you see 4-5 GCD hits in recap while for you it looked like screen freeze for 2-3 seconds and then bum you are dead from full HP without understanding what's just happened.

    Add that the stun from leap usually occurs before it looks like it hits your character on your end. But ye, the desync from leap knockup is really annoying.
  • BNOC
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    BNOC wrote: »
    You're talking about Magplars over Stamplars for starters? hahahaha

    Magplars aint healing to full HP, using the most avoidable spammble in game, whilst they're on tank builds.

    If you want big damage, enough damage to kill dodge rolling, consistently jumping, one-shot stam builds (That run that destructed dizzying (LOL) with absolute finesse) you cannot that tanky.

    This is literally a "BUFF DIZZY" post - Someone said you're a stamDK? You must be absolute garbage, there's stamdks on console hitting 30k+ burst in a second with that destructed dizzy, leap, executioner.

    Stratti wrote: »
    DK requires more skill and more resources to execute so can be killed.

    Dodge roll (proc off balance), hit a 7k heavy into a 6k Dizzying, cast a 14k leap and weave into a 12k executioner - Good night Irene.

    Tough stuff, I can get clips of it happening later if you need to see how to do the most basic 3 button combo in game.


    Got you a quick one right now so you can get started:
    https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/marcus-justicia/video/82184316

    Didn't see he's on a stamsorc there (which hits significantly less) I'll get some more.

    Where do you find those 14k leaps? You were in divines?
    Leap is blockable. If you didn't block it this is either your own fault or server de-sync.
    Basically it is not that leap that powerful, it is broken knockback de-sync when some time warp or singularity or whatever happens and you see 4-5 GCD hits in recap while for you it looked like screen freeze for 2-3 seconds and then bum you are dead from full HP without understanding what's just happened.

    They're hitting 15k leaps, I think they're building into it and are proccing off balance with the roll dodge passive. This is against everyone, I linked 5 videos of strong players getting absolutely bottomed out in a second by this.

    I know leap is blockable, but it's not if they roll dodge, off balance you and hit you with a heavy.

    People aren't even using cc's on our server, literally off balance - heavy stuns into ults - Which is why it's so effective on DK.

    I don't really see that desync in duels, just colossal burst.

    I can link more DVR names if you want to check out other players, it's half the server - Some, like Marcus are just better at it than others.
    vMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
    578,000 - 36 Minutes 58 Seconds (Top 2 World?)

    vMSA - Magplar - Xbox NA
    569,000 - 40 minutes (350CP, Non optimised runs)
  • redlink1979
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    "Please nerf whatever kills me in PvP"
    "Sweet Mother, sweet Mother, send your child unto me, for the sins of the unworthy must be baptized in blood and fear"
    • Sons of the Night Mother | VforVendetta | Grownups Gaming EU | English Elders [PS][EU] 2500 CP
    • Daggerfall's Mightiest | Eternal Champions | Legacy | Tamriel Melting Pot [PS][NA] 2300 CP
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  • Reaper_00
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    Stratti wrote: »
    DK requires more skill and more resources to execute so can be killed.

    No it doesn’t. After maining a magplar pretty much exclusively for the past two years I decided to roll a stam DK during the last event. Compared to magplar it is easy mode. Just wear heavy armor + blood spawn, buff up and wait for your ulti to pop. 1vX isn’t even challenging, unless it’s against another DK anyway.

    Have you tried playing a templar yourself?
  • Derra
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    Isn´t it just as many wardens as templars though?
    <Noricum>
    I live. I die. I live again.

    Derra - DC - Sorc - AvA 50
    Derrah - EP - Sorc - AvA 50

  • MartiniDaniels
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    BNOC wrote: »
    You're talking about Magplars over Stamplars for starters? hahahaha

    Magplars aint healing to full HP, using the most avoidable spammble in game, whilst they're on tank builds.

    If you want big damage, enough damage to kill dodge rolling, consistently jumping, one-shot stam builds (That run that destructed dizzying (LOL) with absolute finesse) you cannot that tanky.

    This is literally a "BUFF DIZZY" post - Someone said you're a stamDK? You must be absolute garbage, there's stamdks on console hitting 30k+ burst in a second with that destructed dizzy, leap, executioner.

    Stratti wrote: »
    DK requires more skill and more resources to execute so can be killed.

    Dodge roll (proc off balance), hit a 7k heavy into a 6k Dizzying, cast a 14k leap and weave into a 12k executioner - Good night Irene.

    Tough stuff, I can get clips of it happening later if you need to see how to do the most basic 3 button combo in game.


    Got you a quick one right now so you can get started:
    https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/marcus-justicia/video/82184316

    Didn't see he's on a stamsorc there (which hits significantly less) I'll get some more.

    Where do you find those 14k leaps? You were in divines?
    Leap is blockable. If you didn't block it this is either your own fault or server de-sync.
    Basically it is not that leap that powerful, it is broken knockback de-sync when some time warp or singularity or whatever happens and you see 4-5 GCD hits in recap while for you it looked like screen freeze for 2-3 seconds and then bum you are dead from full HP without understanding what's just happened.

    Add that the stun from leap usually occurs before it looks like it hits your character on your end. But ye, the desync from leap knockup is really annoying.

    Yep, for you it looks like everything ok, you just press buttons but nothing happens, and only a second after that you see knockback animation, you press both your mouse and keyboard break free and nothing happens and then you finally break free 100 ms before final executioner lands. So at this point it only depends on how tanky you are, how damaging is DK and what will crit... proactively you can do nothing, because you are simply out of character control for 2-3 seconds... Imo ZOS should remove knockback from ranged skills... maybe reduce cost of leap further to compensate, same for meteor. Just replace knockback with stun.
  • MartiniDaniels
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    BNOC wrote: »
    BNOC wrote: »
    You're talking about Magplars over Stamplars for starters? hahahaha

    Magplars aint healing to full HP, using the most avoidable spammble in game, whilst they're on tank builds.

    If you want big damage, enough damage to kill dodge rolling, consistently jumping, one-shot stam builds (That run that destructed dizzying (LOL) with absolute finesse) you cannot that tanky.

    This is literally a "BUFF DIZZY" post - Someone said you're a stamDK? You must be absolute garbage, there's stamdks on console hitting 30k+ burst in a second with that destructed dizzy, leap, executioner.

    Stratti wrote: »
    DK requires more skill and more resources to execute so can be killed.

    Dodge roll (proc off balance), hit a 7k heavy into a 6k Dizzying, cast a 14k leap and weave into a 12k executioner - Good night Irene.

    Tough stuff, I can get clips of it happening later if you need to see how to do the most basic 3 button combo in game.


    Got you a quick one right now so you can get started:
    https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/marcus-justicia/video/82184316

    Didn't see he's on a stamsorc there (which hits significantly less) I'll get some more.

    Where do you find those 14k leaps? You were in divines?
    Leap is blockable. If you didn't block it this is either your own fault or server de-sync.
    Basically it is not that leap that powerful, it is broken knockback de-sync when some time warp or singularity or whatever happens and you see 4-5 GCD hits in recap while for you it looked like screen freeze for 2-3 seconds and then bum you are dead from full HP without understanding what's just happened.

    They're hitting 15k leaps, I think they're building into it and are proccing off balance with the roll dodge passive. This is against everyone, I linked 5 videos of strong players getting absolutely bottomed out in a second by this.

    I know leap is blockable, but it's not if they roll dodge, off balance you and hit you with a heavy.

    People aren't even using cc's on our server, literally off balance - heavy stuns into ults - Which is why it's so effective on DK.

    I don't really see that desync in duels, just colossal burst.

    I can link more DVR names if you want to check out other players, it's half the server - Some, like Marcus are just better at it than others.

    Please link video or youtube channel with 14k+ leaps against strong players, I am really interested how to reach such numbers vs proper builds.
  • Hotdog_23
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    Find it funny how some ae complaining of jabs healing a magplar when necros skills heals on both mag and stam versions. Imagine if a stamplar sweeps healed them as well B)
  • BNOC
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    BNOC wrote: »
    BNOC wrote: »
    You're talking about Magplars over Stamplars for starters? hahahaha

    Magplars aint healing to full HP, using the most avoidable spammble in game, whilst they're on tank builds.

    If you want big damage, enough damage to kill dodge rolling, consistently jumping, one-shot stam builds (That run that destructed dizzying (LOL) with absolute finesse) you cannot that tanky.

    This is literally a "BUFF DIZZY" post - Someone said you're a stamDK? You must be absolute garbage, there's stamdks on console hitting 30k+ burst in a second with that destructed dizzy, leap, executioner.

    Stratti wrote: »
    DK requires more skill and more resources to execute so can be killed.

    Dodge roll (proc off balance), hit a 7k heavy into a 6k Dizzying, cast a 14k leap and weave into a 12k executioner - Good night Irene.

    Tough stuff, I can get clips of it happening later if you need to see how to do the most basic 3 button combo in game.


    Got you a quick one right now so you can get started:
    https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/marcus-justicia/video/82184316

    Didn't see he's on a stamsorc there (which hits significantly less) I'll get some more.

    Where do you find those 14k leaps? You were in divines?
    Leap is blockable. If you didn't block it this is either your own fault or server de-sync.
    Basically it is not that leap that powerful, it is broken knockback de-sync when some time warp or singularity or whatever happens and you see 4-5 GCD hits in recap while for you it looked like screen freeze for 2-3 seconds and then bum you are dead from full HP without understanding what's just happened.

    They're hitting 15k leaps, I think they're building into it and are proccing off balance with the roll dodge passive. This is against everyone, I linked 5 videos of strong players getting absolutely bottomed out in a second by this.

    I know leap is blockable, but it's not if they roll dodge, off balance you and hit you with a heavy.

    People aren't even using cc's on our server, literally off balance - heavy stuns into ults - Which is why it's so effective on DK.

    I don't really see that desync in duels, just colossal burst.

    I can link more DVR names if you want to check out other players, it's half the server - Some, like Marcus are just better at it than others.

    Please link video or youtube channel with 14k+ leaps against strong players, I am really interested how to reach such numbers vs proper builds.

    https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/marcus-justicia/videos

    Knock your socks off, we use DVR on Xbox, not youtube.
    vMSA - Magplar - Xbox EU - 15/11/16
    578,000 - 36 Minutes 58 Seconds (Top 2 World?)

    vMSA - Magplar - Xbox NA
    569,000 - 40 minutes (350CP, Non optimised runs)
  • ruengdet2515
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    Hey Dev., give him one shot kill so he can become god of eso.
  • fiender66
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    All those Ferrari outperform my VW. Nerf them ;)
  • MartiniDaniels
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    BNOC wrote: »
    BNOC wrote: »
    BNOC wrote: »
    You're talking about Magplars over Stamplars for starters? hahahaha

    Magplars aint healing to full HP, using the most avoidable spammble in game, whilst they're on tank builds.

    If you want big damage, enough damage to kill dodge rolling, consistently jumping, one-shot stam builds (That run that destructed dizzying (LOL) with absolute finesse) you cannot that tanky.

    This is literally a "BUFF DIZZY" post - Someone said you're a stamDK? You must be absolute garbage, there's stamdks on console hitting 30k+ burst in a second with that destructed dizzy, leap, executioner.

    Stratti wrote: »
    DK requires more skill and more resources to execute so can be killed.

    Dodge roll (proc off balance), hit a 7k heavy into a 6k Dizzying, cast a 14k leap and weave into a 12k executioner - Good night Irene.

    Tough stuff, I can get clips of it happening later if you need to see how to do the most basic 3 button combo in game.


    Got you a quick one right now so you can get started:
    https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/marcus-justicia/video/82184316

    Didn't see he's on a stamsorc there (which hits significantly less) I'll get some more.

    Where do you find those 14k leaps? You were in divines?
    Leap is blockable. If you didn't block it this is either your own fault or server de-sync.
    Basically it is not that leap that powerful, it is broken knockback de-sync when some time warp or singularity or whatever happens and you see 4-5 GCD hits in recap while for you it looked like screen freeze for 2-3 seconds and then bum you are dead from full HP without understanding what's just happened.

    They're hitting 15k leaps, I think they're building into it and are proccing off balance with the roll dodge passive. This is against everyone, I linked 5 videos of strong players getting absolutely bottomed out in a second by this.

    I know leap is blockable, but it's not if they roll dodge, off balance you and hit you with a heavy.

    People aren't even using cc's on our server, literally off balance - heavy stuns into ults - Which is why it's so effective on DK.

    I don't really see that desync in duels, just colossal burst.

    I can link more DVR names if you want to check out other players, it's half the server - Some, like Marcus are just better at it than others.

    Please link video or youtube channel with 14k+ leaps against strong players, I am really interested how to reach such numbers vs proper builds.

    https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/marcus-justicia/videos

    Knock your socks off, we use DVR on Xbox, not youtube.

    I looked several videos, he kills people in 2 GCD on stamsorc without using ultimate. Nerf stamsorc? :D

    Also videos are old from previous patch when dizzy was objectively broken. And I see 8k leap against squishy guy who was actually doing some notable damage to Marcus putting him at 35% etc..
    Edited by MartiniDaniels on November 26, 2019 11:14AM
  • agingerinohio
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    I was going to write a long message on how to counter templars now in this current state of the game, but I'm not going to because I'm nervous that method will be nerfed too.
    Lets nerf the freaking nerfing mentality people. Adapt or sit out this patch. What Zos needs to do is revert the dot changes. They nerfed it wayyyy too much. Tanks have basically been nerfed in PvE but were made basically immortal in PvP. Thats the problem with not seperating PvP and pve balancing.
  • Alienoutlaw
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    is this a buff sorc thread?
  • MartiniDaniels
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    is this a buff sorc thread?

    Nah, this is nerf DK thread because knockback in this game is broken. Nerf DK because one of DK abilties (ultimate) has knockback.
  • NinchiTV
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    Templar are the old sorc, easy to pick up and low skill ceiling and does it all. How to beat them? fight them out side their house.
  • Danouk
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    Here we go again. PvP trying to have a class change because they can't play their character right. Tired of these PvP cry babies who just dies and it's all because one is too powerful when they die. Remember you make a change in PvP it effects the pve as well.
  • Mayrael
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    For magicka toons there is one antitemplar set... Hist sap. Thank me later. Don't nerf templars.
    I'm done with this game because of ZOS pushing us into Vengeance, because they don't know how to fix Cyrodiil.
  • Hapexamendios
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    No more nerfs. This ridiculousness needs to stop.
  • technohic
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    Qbiken wrote: »
    BNOC wrote: »
    You're talking about Magplars over Stamplars for starters? hahahaha

    Magplars aint healing to full HP, using the most avoidable spammble in game, whilst they're on tank builds.

    If you want big damage, enough damage to kill dodge rolling, consistently jumping, one-shot stam builds (That run that destructed dizzying (LOL) with absolute finesse) you cannot that tanky.

    This is literally a "BUFF DIZZY" post - Someone said you're a stamDK? You must be absolute garbage, there's stamdks on console hitting 30k+ burst in a second with that destructed dizzy, leap, executioner.

    Stratti wrote: »
    DK requires more skill and more resources to execute so can be killed.

    Dodge roll (proc off balance), hit a 7k heavy into a 6k Dizzying, cast a 14k leap and weave into a 12k executioner - Good night Irene.

    Tough stuff, I can get clips of it happening later if you need to see how to do the most basic 3 button combo in game.


    Got you a quick one right now so you can get started:
    https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/marcus-justicia/video/82184316

    Didn't see he's on a stamsorc there (which hits significantly less) I'll get some more.

    Where do you find those 14k leaps? You were in divines?
    Leap is blockable. If you didn't block it this is either your own fault or server de-sync.
    Basically it is not that leap that powerful, it is broken knockback de-sync when some time warp or singularity or whatever happens and you see 4-5 GCD hits in recap while for you it looked like screen freeze for 2-3 seconds and then bum you are dead from full HP without understanding what's just happened.

    Add that the stun from leap usually occurs before it looks like it hits your character on your end. But ye, the desync from leap knockup is really annoying.

    For me, I block, see the DK land, unblock, then I get knocked up into the air.

    Maybe it's a no CP issue. I haven't seen many templars being much of a problem in CP anymore and I see a lot of everything out except necros. I see necros regularly but usually in the group as an ulti dumper.
  • x48rph
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    Stratti wrote: »
    Ok Zos,

    Simple message. Battlegrounds used to be fun but now following your destruction of dizzy and dots what you have done is turn it into a Templar fest. Plain and simple.

    Your first line is the only real point here. Cries for nerfs are how we got to where we are now. Your title should be 'Buff X because it is under performing' and then of course, give examples of how it's under performing.I know, I know, ZOS is much more likely to nerf then buff which is probably why people are so quick to ask for nerfs instead but we really as a whole need to actively discourage that by asking for buffs instead.

    PS, No one cared about templars before the brief dot meta,, then everyone suddenly had to have one for the purge, stands to reason you find them everywhere now.
  • juhislihis19
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    BNOC wrote: »
    BNOC wrote: »
    BNOC wrote: »
    You're talking about Magplars over Stamplars for starters? hahahaha

    Magplars aint healing to full HP, using the most avoidable spammble in game, whilst they're on tank builds.

    If you want big damage, enough damage to kill dodge rolling, consistently jumping, one-shot stam builds (That run that destructed dizzying (LOL) with absolute finesse) you cannot that tanky.

    This is literally a "BUFF DIZZY" post - Someone said you're a stamDK? You must be absolute garbage, there's stamdks on console hitting 30k+ burst in a second with that destructed dizzy, leap, executioner.

    Stratti wrote: »
    DK requires more skill and more resources to execute so can be killed.

    Dodge roll (proc off balance), hit a 7k heavy into a 6k Dizzying, cast a 14k leap and weave into a 12k executioner - Good night Irene.

    Tough stuff, I can get clips of it happening later if you need to see how to do the most basic 3 button combo in game.


    Got you a quick one right now so you can get started:
    https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/marcus-justicia/video/82184316

    Didn't see he's on a stamsorc there (which hits significantly less) I'll get some more.

    Where do you find those 14k leaps? You were in divines?
    Leap is blockable. If you didn't block it this is either your own fault or server de-sync.
    Basically it is not that leap that powerful, it is broken knockback de-sync when some time warp or singularity or whatever happens and you see 4-5 GCD hits in recap while for you it looked like screen freeze for 2-3 seconds and then bum you are dead from full HP without understanding what's just happened.

    They're hitting 15k leaps, I think they're building into it and are proccing off balance with the roll dodge passive. This is against everyone, I linked 5 videos of strong players getting absolutely bottomed out in a second by this.

    I know leap is blockable, but it's not if they roll dodge, off balance you and hit you with a heavy.

    People aren't even using cc's on our server, literally off balance - heavy stuns into ults - Which is why it's so effective on DK.

    I don't really see that desync in duels, just colossal burst.

    I can link more DVR names if you want to check out other players, it's half the server - Some, like Marcus are just better at it than others.

    Please link video or youtube channel with 14k+ leaps against strong players, I am really interested how to reach such numbers vs proper builds.

    https://gamerdvr.com/gamer/marcus-justicia/videos

    Knock your socks off, we use DVR on Xbox, not youtube.

    I looked several videos, he kills people in 2 GCD on stamsorc without using ultimate. Nerf stamsorc? :D

    Also videos are old from previous patch when dizzy was objectively broken. And I see 8k leap against squishy guy who was actually doing some notable damage to Marcus putting him at 35% etc..

    Only Leaps over 10k I've seen done/did myself, are against potatoes on PVE gear without any critical resistance. Not even with NMA+Fury procced. There aren't any player who's built for PVP that receives such numbers. None.
  • carlos424
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    Stratti wrote: »
    FierceSam wrote: »
    Stop begging for nerfs

    Are you saying that Templars are not Overpowered - Are you saying that nothing should ever be nerfed

    Bro where were you before last patch - we could have used this.

    Truth is when they Nerf one class they need to nerf another and another.

    Restore Dizzy and Dots and I will stop asking for Nerfs to Templars

    I know I am not alone

    Maybe get on a character that can fight from range and stop standing in front of jabs? Just a suggestion.
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