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NERF SIEGE

SillyGT
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Siege is over performing in cyrodiil. How is something so unbelievable powerful with literally no counter play???? Siege shield is completely useless you still can die to 30k cold stone trebs and 25k meatbags. And you can’t move out of it because people will just set up more than you are just fighting more siege than actual people. How is something from medieval times more powerful than literal magic? My suggestions are to buff siege shield like crazy or remove damage from siege all together and just have it apply status effects. Because having people dog pilling on you with a scatter shot and meat bag both doing 25-30k damage and apply more damage taken healing debuffs is so unfair. Status effects of siege weapons are strong enough to kill people why does it have to do an outrageous amount of damage too?
SillyGT on ps4 and Sleepin on PC.
I have way to many hours on this game 27k to be exact. 99% of it has been in Cyrodiil (Dec. 2024)
Currently have 15 Grand Overlords and like to role play as a stealthy assassin.
  • SillyGT
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    Please look into this it’s really unfair that people 50+ Meters and click one button and kill 5 people instantly.
    SillyGT on ps4 and Sleepin on PC.
    I have way to many hours on this game 27k to be exact. 99% of it has been in Cyrodiil (Dec. 2024)
    Currently have 15 Grand Overlords and like to role play as a stealthy assassin.
  • Nevidyra
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    "I can't dodge roll once or run out of the way of the big red circle appearing around me, NERF NERF NERF!"

    It's laughably easy to move out of the way. Stop standing still and l2p.
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  • Abyssmol
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    I thought I have seen all possible nerf discussions in the forum, I was wrong....
  • Mayrael
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    ... and there is I who would like to bring back siege bug when it dealt double damage :D Sieges should hurt. When sieges dealt double damage we were forced to use tactic again when taking keeps. You couldn't just stack on ram, cast siege shield and purge, purge, purge. Players was forced to spread more, wall sieges were a thing again. I loved it, being on both ends. There is nothing more funny to experience when someone uses 2 coldharbour ballistas, that hit for 15k per tick, to kill you and he fails constantly, then reach him through breach, kill him and burn his sieges <3
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  • DocFrost72
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    What type of siege hit you OP, and were you using siege shield?
    Edited by DocFrost72 on November 20, 2019 8:03AM
  • IndorilArwynLlethran
    I hope OP is trolling :lol:
  • Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO
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    This is actually a nerf sorc thread, streak vs siege too strong.
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  • Alienoutlaw
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    nerf slaughter fish
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  • gepe87
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    What?? They must be buffed to a state equal to Summerset Sieges B).
    The first 2 weeks without ball groups.
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  • VaranisArano
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    *Nerfs siege*

    Next update: "Why are all these ball groups just standing in my oils like its a hot shower and they don't even care? I hit them with meatbags and cold fire trebs and its like it doesn't do anything!
    I know! Nerf Healing!!!!!"
  • UppGRAYxDD
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    The only time siege needs a nerf is when a sorc is using it...
    "Stendarr's mercy be upon you, for the vigil has none to spare."
  • Fur_like_snow
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    Siege is useless in CP.
  • Kagukan
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    Siege is in a good place. No changes needed.
  • msalvia
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    By "overperforming" do you mean "killed me"? I think the only thing I find more irritating that these constant "nerf stuff" threads is how utterly subjective the reasoning is. When we say "overperforming," what do we actually mean? Overperforming compared to what?

    And to touch on the substance, Siege should be buffed. The only people who complain about siege are zerglings who don't know purge exists.
  • Abyssmol
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    This is actually a nerf sorc thread, streak vs siege too strong.

    That's a good one!
  • Mr_Walker
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    Kagukan wrote: »
    Siege is in a good place. No changes needed.

    Cold fire could use a little detuning, apart from that the only thing I'd change is buffing my ram health so it doesn't melt in 5 seconds from one guy with oils.
  • Kadoin
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    SillyGT wrote: »
    Please look into this it’s really unfair that people 50+ Meters and click one button and kill 5 people instantly.

    If in noCP you might have a point, but in CP no.

    But even then, considering the amount of time you have to leave the situation and that soege has a reload time, I can't ever see how siege is really a problem outside a chokepoint (where it can't even keep up with healing and defense this patch).

    I don't think siege needs nerfing at all, in fact, I think it should be buffed.
  • Marcus684
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    Silly GiT
  • Cirantille
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    I think I have seen all now
  • Cowars
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    Zos siege weapons needs a buff to effectively defend a castle! A purge bot can just run thru a fully defended castle with little to no damage or a ball group with 6 purge bots are unkillable in pvp. I remember back in the day when siege weapons meant something in pvp and everyone had to slot siege shield ...now they are a joke! Zos please buff siege weapons to their former strength!
  • NordSwordnBoard
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    TLDR: BUFF PvDOOR

    Ah, that fine line between not adding 4 Purgebots so you can say you're too good for it, but needing the cohesion to loosen the ballgroup out of red without falling apart to PUGs.

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  • SillyGT
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    Nevidyra wrote: »
    "I can't dodge roll once or run out of the way of the big red circle appearing around me, NERF NERF NERF!"

    It's laughably easy to move out of the way. Stop standing still and l2p.
    I wish it was this simple because if you saw the amount of counter siege that gets placed on my group you would be like wow that’s more than a Zerg would trying to defend last emp keep
    SillyGT on ps4 and Sleepin on PC.
    I have way to many hours on this game 27k to be exact. 99% of it has been in Cyrodiil (Dec. 2024)
    Currently have 15 Grand Overlords and like to role play as a stealthy assassin.
  • SillyGT
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    Cowars wrote: »
    Zos siege weapons needs a buff to effectively defend a castle! A purge bot can just run thru a fully defended castle with little to no damage or a ball group with 6 purge bots are unkillable in pvp. I remember back in the day when siege weapons meant something in pvp and everyone had to slot siege shield ...now they are a joke! Zos please buff siege weapons to their former strength!
    It honestly hurts me to read this because you are probably just a block tank or a flag build can’t actually fight anyone so they resort to siege weapons to do every Thing for you it doesn’t need a buff in the slightest in need a damage nerf to actually encourage people to actually pvp and not just click one button and boom 10 people dead instantly great work everyone 🙄
    SillyGT on ps4 and Sleepin on PC.
    I have way to many hours on this game 27k to be exact. 99% of it has been in Cyrodiil (Dec. 2024)
    Currently have 15 Grand Overlords and like to role play as a stealthy assassin.
  • SillyGT
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    msalvia wrote: »
    By "overperforming" do you mean "killed me"? I think the only thing I find more irritating that these constant "nerf stuff" threads is how utterly subjective the reasoning is. When we say "overperforming," what do we actually mean? Overperforming compared to what?

    And to touch on the substance, Siege should be buffed. The only people who complain about siege are zerglings who don't know purge exists.
    over perform to its former self it’s use to never be this strong like a year ago you can’t take castles or fight people in tower people there’s so much siege everywhere you have no where to stand and having people chasing doesn’t help it you can’t just go out there in burn it all because 19 meatbags will be pointed at you instantly

    SillyGT on ps4 and Sleepin on PC.
    I have way to many hours on this game 27k to be exact. 99% of it has been in Cyrodiil (Dec. 2024)
    Currently have 15 Grand Overlords and like to role play as a stealthy assassin.
  • RedGirl41
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    Anyone that thinks siege should be buff clearly hasn’t died to 18k oils. Because they are the one sitting back and sieging.

    Also shouldn’t allow people to sprint inside of an enemy keep, go up stairs and pour oils in top of them when you don’t even own the keep. Learn how to actually fight instead of just running away.

    Also saying “just move out of the way” is ignorant when you can stack oils and meat bags all in one doorway or allllll over the field. There’s nowhere to stand.

    You know it’s over powered when people will use meat bags to kill people instead of their character.

    Meat bags shouldn’t do as much damage but just heal debuff you instead (still incredibly strong and useful)

    Scattershots shouldn’t do nearly all that damage on impact but just cause you to take more damage (hello? That’s still wicked strong)

    Stop always looking for the easy way to kill people and learn to actually fight them with your character. Can’t kill them? Learn from the situation and be better
  • SillyGT
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    RedGirl41 wrote: »
    Anyone that thinks siege should be buff clearly hasn’t died to 18k oils. Because they are the one sitting back and sieging.

    Also shouldn’t allow people to sprint inside of an enemy keep, go up stairs and pour oils in top of them when you don’t even own the keep. Learn how to actually fight instead of just running away.

    Also saying “just move out of the way” is ignorant when you can stack oils and meat bags all in one doorway or allllll over the field. There’s nowhere to stand.

    You know it’s over powered when people will use meat bags to kill people instead of their character.

    Meat bags shouldn’t do as much damage but just heal debuff you instead (still incredibly strong and useful)

    Scattershots shouldn’t do nearly all that damage on impact but just cause you to take more damage (hello? That’s still wicked strong)

    Stop always looking for the easy way to kill people and learn to actually fight them with your character. Can’t kill them? Learn from the situation and be better
    Thank you finally someone that actually understand how pvp should be played. And I’m completely agree that you shouldn’t be able to place oils in a keep you don’t even own why are you defending something you don’t even own they need to limited the amount of counter siege you can place in a keep you don’t even own to a very small amount same thing with people defending said keep counter siege should not be the primary form of combat
    SillyGT on ps4 and Sleepin on PC.
    I have way to many hours on this game 27k to be exact. 99% of it has been in Cyrodiil (Dec. 2024)
    Currently have 15 Grand Overlords and like to role play as a stealthy assassin.
  • Cowars
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    SillyGT wrote: »
    Cowars wrote: »
    Zos siege weapons needs a buff to effectively defend a castle! A purge bot can just run thru a fully defended castle with little to no damage or a ball group with 6 purge bots are unkillable in pvp. I remember back in the day when siege weapons meant something in pvp and everyone had to slot siege shield ...now they are a joke! Zos please buff siege weapons to their former strength!
    It honestly hurts me to read this because you are probably just a block tank or a flag build can’t actually fight anyone so they resort to siege weapons to do every Thing for you it doesn’t need a buff in the slightest in need a damage nerf to actually encourage people to actually pvp and not just click one button and boom 10 people dead instantly great work everyone 🙄

    It honestly hurts me to read this because everyone that pvp's na ps4 knows you and your ball group just ulti dump and run away. The truth is siege needs a buff for what's it's intended for which is castle defense. I rarely see siege shield being used when taking castles even with heavy defense. Castles need to hold more siege weapons for defense or buff the damage! As of now one cold fire wouldn't kill one person in SillyGT ball group plus they just would run away from the siege damage. Zos please buff siege weapons!
    Edited by Cowars on November 21, 2019 9:29PM
  • Mr_Walker
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    Cowars wrote: »
    Zos siege weapons needs a buff to effectively defend a castle! A purge bot can just run thru a fully defended castle with little to no damage or a ball group with 6 purge bots are unkillable in pvp. I remember back in the day when siege weapons meant something in pvp and everyone had to slot siege shield ...now they are a joke! Zos please buff siege weapons to their former strength!

    If you can't defend with siege in its current state then maybe this game isn't for you.
  • Kadoin
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    RedGirl41 wrote: »
    Anyone that thinks siege should be buff clearly hasn’t died to 18k oils. Because they are the one sitting back and sieging.

    That's funny, I sit in siege on the front lines all the time on my templar, mag DK, stam DK, stam sorc, etc. in defense and offense. It takes close to six cold stones at once to kill me and oil is a joke, and I am not a tank and play in only light and medium in Cyrodiil without max resist. If you are a vampire and can't handle it as a vampire then simply don't be one or run counters, one of which includes moving.
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