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That wouldn't help because the issue is not just the group finder. People couldn't log on let alone use the dungeon finder. The problem is the amount of people that the event is drawing in - the game can't handle it.

I'm not necessarily opposed to the idea of the group finder tool, but I don't think events should ever be tied to it. It seems to create more problems than it solves.

Keep it, but focus on the functionality of the game rather than new content for a bit. I understand these are seperate departments, but it feels like the budget for how well the game operates is lacking.

Dusk_Coven wrote: »

akl77 wrote: »

How do you do dungeons without dungeon finder queue? Manually asking in zone and guild?

Yes. It's obviously chancy for a lot of factors, but if people can get trial groups organized, surely a 4-person dungeon is not outside the realm of possibility. (Which is NOT to say that everyone is getting dungeon groups together whenever they want).

The actual bigger concern is getting people for the dungeon / mode you want. And right now, people are doing all sorts of workarounds even with group finder to avoid the ones they don't want anyway. Look at the threads -- calls for dlc to be removed from random normal, and people citing their strategy being to just leave and accept the deserter penalty.

When you put a group together, they know up front what they are getting into and you are more likely to have a successful group anyway.
But of course, a lot of variables involved in asking around.

I only queue for vet Dlc dungeons nowadays, why? because nobody in zone or guild wanna do it. Why I queue for it? Cos it’s the only thing that’s still more interesting than non dlc dungeons that I’ve completed over a thousand times.

ForzaRammer wrote: »

The current dungeon finder overload server.
So my question is, is it even worth to keep?

They better keep it. Else I"m gone.

Obviusly keep it. Asking for group in zone/guild all the time would be tedious - as is it for trails. But for trails, at least u have craglorn where everybody do it - for dungs you would have min. 3 zones (pledge quest givers). And that would be end game player perspective. Think about getting dung run if you were new player (below 50 lvl) in zone. Sry but cant help to think that this pull is tarded. Not everyone has 810cp with 30 chars in 5 guilds. This 'solution' would really nerf group experience for more-casual players.

Paramedicus wrote: »

Obviusly keep it. Asking for group in zone/guild all the time would be tedious - as is it for trails. But for trails, at least u have craglorn where everybody do it - for dungs you would have min. 3 zones (pledge quest givers). And that would be end game player perspective. Think about getting dung run if you were new player (below 50 lvl) in zone. Sry but cant help to think that this pull is tarded. Not everyone has 810cp with 30 chars in 5 guilds. This 'solution' would really nerf group experience for more-casual players.

You are correct on remove dungeon finder will impact subpar player more than average players. It will definitely make subpar players harder to find / stay in a group. But this is not focus.
Subpar players get short changed doesn’t prove anything wrong with this poll. This is a legit attempt to see how much a % of players is ok to give up group finder for server performance.

Only time I use it is if the event requires it...I prefer to make groups from guilds or build it in zone chat.

Only reason I ever used it was for the XP bump, but I'm closing on 900 cp, so don't really need the xp bump and all my entire rosters is maxxed, so not leveling anything new since I did my two necromancers.

I wish you could elect to just go with the first 3+yourself, rather than trying to run heal/tank/2xDD.

CiliPadi wrote: »

They should stop pumping out chapters/DLC/microtransactions for a while and focus 100% on recoding the broken Activity Finder.

Didn't they just do that? (Behold the results!)

i have an alternate low tech version of a groupfinder using the existing npc guilds if they are interested.

First the existing groupfinder can still be used, this system is designed to reduce that use and expand to other areas while improving the grouping experience for players specifically looking for similar ability players. This will also improve performance of the groupfinder for the battlegrounds.

Second well enhance the npc guilds to take over the match making process but in a more social way using player achievements as follows.

Each npc guild will focus on a specific style of gameplay:

fighters guild will be focused on trials and arenas ( 5 chats)
Mages guild will be focused on overland ( questing, delves, public dungeons) ( 4 chats)
undaunted guild will be focused on 4 man dungeons ( 8 chats)
thieves guild will be based on stealing ( 2 chats)
dark brotherhood will be based on assassination ( 2 chats)
There will be an alliance guild ( one for each alliance ) which is focused on pvp ( two chats)
One final npc guild will be an global achievement based guild based on the psijic order. ( one chat)


You will be able to join any two of these guilds ( above and beyond joining for the skilline and quests, a distinct title) at any time which will give you access to the chats. There is a catch though. To unlock the specific chats you are required to complete ingame activities.

for example ( ill leave the actual accomplishments to zos) the top chat in the fighters guild requires you to complete maelstrom arena vet or 5 vet trials before you can access it. There will always be an "either/or/any" for the harder requirements to be met.

each of these guilds will have a number of chats up to 8 chats that are all achievement based according tho the theme of the content.

To access thee chats you only need to go to the location where if your a member you will automatically join. For instance the lv 1-5 chats for undaunted dungeons are at the undaunted enclaves but the levels 6-8 chats are at the local pub. Similarly the
chats for trials and arenas are located in the local fighters guild chapters.

since all the chats are achievement based people will sort themselves through the chats and thus people of more similar ability will be able to find each other much easier than spamming local zones, something the current groupfinder could never accomplish. This will help bring the right people together in the right places. Not only will you be able to access your channel but also the one below your rank. You have to make your own groups from here and travel to the dungeon etc on your own.

undaunted chat levels examples
1: join the undaunted as a member ( i.e title )
2: complete any 4 normal dungeons
3: complete any 12 normal dungeons
4: complete any 6 vet dungeons
5: complete any 6 vet dungeons hardmode
6: complete any 2 vet dlc dungeons ( from horns of the reach on)
7: complete any 2 dlc dungeons hardmode ( from horns of the reach on)
8: complete no death or time challenge for any dlc dungeon hardmode

its pretty clear to me that the groupfinder is a massive resource hog for the servers and these structured chats should be pretty lean and serve to reduce the groupfinder usage to non destructive levels, providing specific players with better tools to make groups, while expanding this groupmaking ability to all the other areas of the game.