xandervalo wrote: »https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1908916541 FOR everyone that does not believe me that i am a magsorc, and for those of you that do not see the foulness of this heal (note it is not yet even morphed) read the self heal no cp
KillsAllElves wrote: »This has to be the stupidest thread on this forum.
imno007b14_ESO wrote: »xandervalo wrote: »https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1908916541 FOR everyone that does not believe me that i am a magsorc, and for those of you that do not see the foulness of this heal (note it is not yet even morphed) read the self heal no cp
Proving that you play a magsorc doesn't prove anything beyond the fact that you play one - which, by the way, I allowed as a possibility in my post. Still doesn't mean I trust you don't have an ulterior motive. You play one and seriously want your one useful pet nerfed on top of everything else that just got nerfed? You won't be happy until you're forced to switch classes to be competitive?
FrancisCrawford wrote: »xandervalo wrote: »CeroSerotonin wrote: »Just unslot the skill lol
I'm guessing him staying alive isn't the problem. It is all the other Sorcs staying alive.
i used it for a week just to see it was nearly impossible to kill me with it and engine guard, i could tank like 8-10ppl no cp and kill them
Did any of them use crowd control skills?
starkerealm wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »This has to be the stupidest thread on this forum.
@KillsAllElves, oh, trust me, this doesn't scratch the surface.
xandervalo wrote: »Nerf the pet heal its absurd the amount the twilight heals. I only play MagSorc I pvp all the time its my main account I love sorc but for the love of god nerf the damn heal its insane and broken.
-Xanvalo
@Shanehere You mean the already most OP healer in the game with all advantage and 0 drawback ?
Damn you should ask ZoS for a post in balance team, you meet the condition.
ruengdet2515 wrote: »Potato...
Pls, nerf your playing skill before class skill.
Indoril_Nerevar wrote: »xandervalo wrote: »Nerf the pet heal its absurd the amount the twilight heals. I only play MagSorc I pvp all the time its my main account I love sorc but for the love of god nerf the damn heal its insane and broken.
-Xanvalo
I must point something out for you.
I own a Sorceror Tank that has 66k - 75k HEALTH POINTS.
I never use the Twilight healing ability. I use the Clanfear because it grants me much more than the Twilight does.
For a Max Health Point Sorceror, The Clanfear can heal me for 30k - 60k instantly.
That's INSANE considering the other abilities a player could use on a sorc tank like that. . . . they already got crazy recovery and self healing from crits and Dark Magic abilities. Theyre based on Max HP. Directly applying Dark Magic abilities heals this Tank for 12k or more.
Soul Trap heals for 12k - 20k when enemy dies: and restores resources.
Criticals heal you - You dont need high criticals or even rating - just hit a critical in an AOE and you are healing endlessly. Lightning form? My goodness.
They can Use Dark Exchange to heal and replenish their Stam or Mag, resulting in infinite Blocking/Roll Dodging/Damage Shields. . etc! You didnt forget about Damage Shields did you? One Hand and Shield ability will heal you for 15k when absorbing ranged attacks of any kind or more, and protect you from 30k in PvE and 15k - 20k in PvP.
Sorc can also increase their block mitigation... This is ultimately the perfect Tank Class. It compares well to a Necromancer with the same build.
Yeah. Max HP Tank is OP. On ANY CLASS. But on a Sorc? I think it's beyond META. It's way too powerful.
Moonsorrow wrote: »Things like the matriarch heal currently are variables that keep changing each patch while this Audit keeps going, most likely getting adjusted even still at next Chapter release i think, sadly so we have to tolerate ups and downs on all classes until then.
Can see the math behind many classes healing skills are going into alignment.
IF i had to make a totally wild guess on other class too: eventually they will change Dark Cloak into a similar burst heal and thus giving magblade a choice between a strong heal or Cloakd, or take out invisibility completely and turn that morph to the heal.
Currently they are trying to free sorcs from the max magicka "prison" of building. And yes, sorcs are strong currently. Still, it is not the matriarch heal in a vacuum that makes msorc strong. It is the fluid burst combo+Streak+DarkConv.
Thing is, i dont need Matriarch to 1vX and kill people left and right, it takes 2 bar slots that i can personally use better and be even more efficient. Unless playing a healer. And it is meant to be strong for sorc healers.
You could then argue: "if you don`t need it, then why cannot nerffff it?!!!"
Answer is simple: Nerfing something that is not needed to be efficient at killing people nerfs nothing.
If youtruly want changes to msorc that "give others a chance" as you say it, you will need to ask Streak & Dark Conversion adjusted. Not sure you wanna go there.. ZOS adjustments are nukes.
Personally i rather have very strong sorcs both as enemies as well as to play with also than more destroyed class identities once again.
Oh and to those having problems with msorcs in general, Quickest pvp Guide Ever: Have gap closer (if you are not ranged also), Dodge Roll their burst, drain their stam with CC, end them with your own burst. It is that simple for me atleast.
@Shanehere You mean the already most OP healer in the game with all advantage and 0 drawback ?
Damn you should ask ZoS for a post in balance team, you meet the condition.
You got real emotional over my very broad statement. Yeah, Templars should be the best healers, and they still are overall. This is on top of having incredible burst and survivability right now. Sorc is up there as well, but there's no reason Sorc should have the best burst heal and Templar's burst being on par with Sorcs.
Templar is still OP, and definitely needs to be changed. I never argued against Templar being OP ever. Healing overall needs to be tuned down in my opinion.
You can calm down now.
xandervalo wrote: »Indoril_Nerevar wrote: »xandervalo wrote: »Nerf the pet heal its absurd the amount the twilight heals. I only play MagSorc I pvp all the time its my main account I love sorc but for the love of god nerf the damn heal its insane and broken.
-Xanvalo
I must point something out for you.
I own a Sorceror Tank that has 66k - 75k HEALTH POINTS.
I never use the Twilight healing ability. I use the Clanfear because it grants me much more than the Twilight does.
For a Max Health Point Sorceror, The Clanfear can heal me for 30k - 60k instantly.
That's INSANE considering the other abilities a player could use on a sorc tank like that. . . . they already got crazy recovery and self healing from crits and Dark Magic abilities. Theyre based on Max HP. Directly applying Dark Magic abilities heals this Tank for 12k or more.
Soul Trap heals for 12k - 20k when enemy dies: and restores resources.
Criticals heal you - You dont need high criticals or even rating - just hit a critical in an AOE and you are healing endlessly. Lightning form? My goodness.
They can Use Dark Exchange to heal and replenish their Stam or Mag, resulting in infinite Blocking/Roll Dodging/Damage Shields. . etc! You didnt forget about Damage Shields did you? One Hand and Shield ability will heal you for 15k when absorbing ranged attacks of any kind or more, and protect you from 30k in PvE and 15k - 20k in PvP.
Sorc can also increase their block mitigation... This is ultimately the perfect Tank Class. It compares well to a Necromancer with the same build.
Yeah. Max HP Tank is OP. On ANY CLASS. But on a Sorc? I think it's beyond META. It's way too powerful.
i bet you are right i always wanted to make that for PVE but im not talking about pve and its un heard of atleast for me to see a sorc pvp tank, i dont doubt what you are saying though ive always thought about that due to passives
FrancisCrawford wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »xandervalo wrote: »CeroSerotonin wrote: »Just unslot the skill lol
I'm guessing him staying alive isn't the problem. It is all the other Sorcs staying alive.
i used it for a week just to see it was nearly impossible to kill me with it and engine guard, i could tank like 8-10ppl no cp and kill them
Please share your video of your 1v10 experience for everyone.
Especially since Engine Guardian is a sustain monster set.
We're all waiting with bated breath ...
Matriarch procs EG. EG provides resources to activate Matriarch. Matriarch procs EG.
Meanwhile your scamp nibbles everything to death.
Yes. And how often does Engine Guardian return magicka, on average? I don't remember off the top of my head, because I haven't slotted that set for a long time.
Taleof2Cities wrote: »xandervalo wrote: »CeroSerotonin wrote: »Just unslot the skill lol
I'm guessing him staying alive isn't the problem. It is all the other Sorcs staying alive.
i used it for a week just to see it was nearly impossible to kill me with it and engine guard, i could tank like 8-10ppl no cp and kill them
Please share your video of your 1v10 experience for everyone.
Especially since Engine Guardian is a sustain monster set.
We're all waiting with bated breath ...
Canned_Apples wrote: »the people are saying "don't nerf sorcs" are the same people that were saying "don't nerf d-swing."
from one broken build to the next.
FrancisCrawford wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »Taleof2Cities wrote: »xandervalo wrote: »CeroSerotonin wrote: »Just unslot the skill lol
I'm guessing him staying alive isn't the problem. It is all the other Sorcs staying alive.
i used it for a week just to see it was nearly impossible to kill me with it and engine guard, i could tank like 8-10ppl no cp and kill them
Please share your video of your 1v10 experience for everyone.
Especially since Engine Guardian is a sustain monster set.
We're all waiting with bated breath ...
Matriarch procs EG. EG provides resources to activate Matriarch. Matriarch procs EG.
Meanwhile your scamp nibbles everything to death.
Yes. And how often does Engine Guardian return magicka, on average? I don't remember off the top of my head, because I haven't slotted that set for a long time.
Don't forget that sorcs have dark exchange.
Taleof2Cities wrote: »xandervalo wrote: »CeroSerotonin wrote: »Just unslot the skill lol
I'm guessing him staying alive isn't the problem. It is all the other Sorcs staying alive.
i used it for a week just to see it was nearly impossible to kill me with it and engine guard, i could tank like 8-10ppl no cp and kill them
Please share your video of your 1v10 experience for everyone.
Especially since Engine Guardian is a sustain monster set.
We're all waiting with bated breath ...
Engine Guardian is insane on pet sorc right now. Most people are running it in Cyrodiil and in Stormhaven and it's absolutely cheese. Not sure what you meant by your mention of it but it absolutely one of the monster sets to use right now for Sorcs fighting outnumbered. Sorcs already incredible sustain is even better with it, allowing them more time to burst people down and less time having to stop and pop a dark exchange.
Oh another stupid pvp nerf thread, so original
Sorc if fine, heal is fine, since the change and buff sorc is finally a decent healer.
@Shanehere You mean the already most OP healer in the game with all advantage and 0 drawback ?
Damn you should ask ZoS for a post in balance team, you meet the condition.starkerealm wrote: »KillsAllElves wrote: »This has to be the stupidest thread on this forum.
@KillsAllElves, oh, trust me, this doesn't scratch the surface.
Agree, the guy have miss the "Nerf jump" and Nerf block" thread.
This pvp community....