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IM a sorc okay let me tell you something nerf
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KappaKid83✭✭✭✭✭xandervalo wrote: »Nerf the pet heal its absurd the amount the twilight heals. I only play MagSorc I pvp all the time its my main account I love sorc but for the love of god nerf the damn heal its insane and broken.
-Xanvalo
Same here as a sorc main, using it in PvP feels filthy but using it for overland stuff just running solo for world bosses is even more insane, you literally can't die.1 -
NeillMcAttack✭✭✭✭✭
✭These kinds of threads are the reason this whole general “discussion” section of the forums are a pain to attempt to read through.
There is no actual discussion taking place here, just a lot of yammering really.
Maybe someone could post some standard set-ups? Tool tips? Crit rating and such? Maybe effective HP? Does it over heal? Is there a reason it needs to be so high, and where do we estimate the cut-off point should be per a particular set up?
Or continue with this buff/nerf sorc drivel. IDK anymore.PC EU - NoCP PvP, is real PvPTiidehunter Nord StamDK EP PvP MainLegion Commander Tresdin Stamplar DC PvE MainSephirith Altmer MagPlar EP Gondar the Bounty Hunter Khajiit StamBlade DCThe Dirge Redguard StamNecro EP Disruptor Stormcrafter Nord StamSorc ADLone Druid Bosmer Stam Warden EP Necro-Phos Argonian MagBlade AD@ McAttack in gamePlayed since beta, and then on console at release, until the game became unplayable on console.0 -
Kagukan✭✭✭✭✭
✭The heal is perfect where it is now. Good PvP players can counter that sorc heal rather easily.1 -
Sirvaleen✭✭✭✭"Once summoned, you can activate the twilight matriarch's special ability for 4590 Magicka, causing it to heal the matriarch and up to 2 other friendly targets for 2547 Health."
I'm personally not using pets and have only gone to Cyrodiil sporadically this last weeks, so the fact that I've mostly encountered other petless sorcs is not significant but it's the reason I'm genuinely intrigued by that new nerf christmas wish thread.
With the significant cost increase of a consequent number of abilities in the last patch and the use of cost increase poisons, are the petsorcs actually spamming a 4590 magicka ability ? Seriously ? ... and they're overpowering other chars ?2 -
CleymenZero✭✭✭✭✭
✭I don't think this guy's ever fought a tankmagplar with 30k health and git it to 10% health only to see Honor the dead burst its health to 90%...
On my magplar, I crit heal with 24k at full health outside Cyrodiil. That's without the Battle Spirit nerf but also with without the low hp buff...Edited by CleymenZero on November 8, 2019 3:07PM1 -
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✭✭✭AuraStorm43 wrote: »Its only slightly bigger than combat prayer without the benefits and you can’t 1 bar it
I’ve been maining Sorc for years and honestly i think the class is right where i want it
I don’t think I’ve ever read a more deluded post in my life.
The matriarch heal is the strongest burst heal in the game unless you’re a Potato who doesn’t know how to make a build, it’s also the most expensive. Cost/benefit is still good because sorcs have great sustain.Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten3 -
D0PAMINE✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I've been using my Magsorc in PvE for the last few months. I like the buffed heal, it's strong af. I thought it was pretty strong before though. I mean, I could heal up to almost full on any class PvE or PvP since I rotate my characters. You can do disgusting self heals on any class and disgusting group heals on some of them as well without using a resto.
I'd rather have sustain over strong heals personally.2 -
FearlessOne_2014✭✭✭✭✭
✭I guess it was time for the obligatory "Nerf MagSorc" thread to appear.
I tell you. People will not be happy until MagSorc is officially deleted from the game.0 -
Karmen✭✭✭✭And killing the pet is useless it takes 1sec to revive him.
I am Carmen.
For Bosmers, war is only a sport2 -
Taleof2Cities✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Looks like the OP left the thread quite awhile ago ...
Maybe they are starting to see the light ...
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Tolino✭✭✭✭✭AuraStorm43 wrote: »Its only slightly bigger than combat prayer without the benefits and you can’t 1 bar it
I’ve been maining Sorc for years and honestly i think the class is right where i want it
The matrirarch heal is just 50% better
if you compare it to Blessing of restoration. Compared to combat prayer, the heal is even 100% higher! If that is just "slightly better"? I do not know...
But that is not only a sorc problem! The healing and dmg reduction in general is too high in PvP.
Magsorc: Tôlino (Wardless)
Magden: Wa-Uller
Stamsorc: Tolino Sturmfalke0 -
Fur_like_snow✭✭✭✭✭
✭Well yeah mSorc is the easy mode railway shooter of ESO so who’s actually surprised?2 -
xandervalo✭✭✭GhostofDatthaw wrote: »Question, were you tanking 8 players? Or streaking away while the pet Los and healed you, because those are two very different things.
I literally sat there got beat on all over and spamming shields, streak once dark deal repeat and then i turned killed two and kitted more. got stun stood up healed repeat. Pet sorc heal from twilight is way to strong it heals for 14k-17k it says i hit it once and im full health pretty much.0 -
xandervalo✭✭✭Cirantille wrote: »Yeah nah I dont buy it Joe sorry, you are not a sorc
You are one of those people who likes to complain about sorcs 7/24 and asking for nerfs
BUFF SORC EVEN MORE!
LOL join non cp i am a MagSORC only i get told im on trainning wheels class 24/7 trust me this is all i play a magsorc! its my baby but thats way to strong of a skill so i had to make a post it only felt right. Its not even that its only too strong its a meatshield it blocks enemy attacks and thats not right. i like being a strong class but not to the extent that we become gods thats no fun to play as something that cant be killed if thats the case ill go play skyrim pull up console commands and type tgm.1 -
xandervalo✭✭✭xandervalo wrote: »Nerf the pet heal its absurd the amount the twilight heals. I only play NIGHTBLADE I pvp NOT SO MUCH its my main account I HATE sorc for the love of god nerf the damn heal its insane and broken.
-Xanvalo
EDIT.
i dont play nightblade it doesnt feel right i want to play a bawler blade i tried a few nights ago its just not fluid like a magsorc haha that was funny though, my highest rank cyro toon is Xanvalo and its a mag sorc.0 -
xandervalo✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »xandervalo wrote: »i used it for a week just to see it was nearly impossible to kill me with it and engine guard, i could tank like 8-10ppl no cp and kill them
-Xanvalo
Can you please tell me the time/location where i can find this group?
Cyrodiil, being nibbled to death by scamps.
ep pugs no cp on a thursday night0 -
xandervalo✭✭✭Nerf sorc
To be honest, I always played petless sorc, but now I slotted the matriarch. Since everyone's heals are very strong, let this stay or nerf all heals.Taleof2Cities wrote: »xandervalo wrote: »CeroSerotonin wrote: »Just unslot the skill lol
I'm guessing him staying alive isn't the problem. It is all the other Sorcs staying alive.
i used it for a week just to see it was nearly impossible to kill me with it and engine guard, i could tank like 8-10ppl no cp and kill them
Please share your video of your 1v10 experience for everyone.
Especially since Engine Guardian is a sustain monster set.
We're all waiting with bated breath ...
im not the only one doing this im not suren who this guy is ive been seeing around but hes rather good, its a dc on no cp his name is Bae idk his @ name. I watch him do it all the time he kills 7-10 people alone with engine guard and matriarch. Its not that hard engine is BiS for a sorc IMO and with a pet its gross because it blocks all dmg along with twilight you cant target the sorc its impossible. 17 pugs out here liking your comment 10 of which i prob killed Thursday night.0 -
xandervalo✭✭✭I think a lot of these comments are coming from cp players now that i cant speak for, im not sure what it heals like but i can only imagine how much stronger the heal must me. I dont recognise any of you so far.0
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xandervalo✭✭✭Taleof2Cities wrote: »xandervalo wrote: »CeroSerotonin wrote: »Just unslot the skill lol
I'm guessing him staying alive isn't the problem. It is all the other Sorcs staying alive.
i used it for a week just to see it was nearly impossible to kill me with it and engine guard, i could tank like 8-10ppl no cp and kill them
Please share your video of your 1v10 experience for everyone.
Especially since Engine Guardian is a sustain monster set.
We're all waiting with bated breath ...
I had the same thought. I could only imagine the group OP faced was lead by Moe, Larry, and Curly.
see idk larry or any of thoes people haha but youre prob right it was a group of pugs but none the less 10 people should kill one person thats wack i could out heal that group.1 -
xandervalo✭✭✭AuraStorm43 wrote: »Its only slightly bigger than combat prayer without the benefits and you can’t 1 bar it
I’ve been maining Sorc for years and honestly i think the class is right where i want it
The matrirarch heal is just 50% better if you compare it to Blessing of restoration. Compared to combat prayer, the heal is even 100% higher! If that is just "slightly better"? I do not know...
But that is not only a sorc problem! The healing and dmg reduction in general is too high in PvP.
I think damage is fine considering we are a light armour class, we have no class debuffs literally thats all we have going for us is that burst and mobility if caught right we will die instantly. The heal is just way too much though it actually disgusts me.0 -
xandervalo✭✭✭KappaKid83 wrote: »xandervalo wrote: »Nerf the pet heal its absurd the amount the twilight heals. I only play MagSorc I pvp all the time its my main account I love sorc but for the love of god nerf the damn heal its insane and broken.
-Xanvalo
Same here as a sorc main, using it in PvP feels filthy but using it for overland stuff just running solo for world bosses is even more insane, you literally can't die.
thank you for being honest as well it feels wrong to try and hide this, I want to give others a fair chance as well.0 -
xandervalo✭✭✭NeillMcAttack wrote: »These kinds of threads are the reason this whole general “discussion” section of the forums are a pain to attempt to read through.
There is no actual discussion taking place here, just a lot of yammering really.
Maybe someone could post some standard set-ups? Tool tips? Crit rating and such? Maybe effective HP? Does it over heal? Is there a reason it needs to be so high, and where do we estimate the cut-off point should be per a particular set up?
Or continue with this buff/nerf sorc drivel. IDK anymore.
You are right im sorry about that but i dont know how to post pictures on here or how id capture this i just know it heals for too much because i can be at 10% and boom one click and im back at 85%0 -
imno007b14_ESO✭✭✭Ah, the ol' I play such-and-such class and want it nerfed - and since I play the class that must mean I'm just being really honest and want what's best for the game. Gimme a break. In most cases they don't currently play the class, or never have, or are playing a class they like more now and are tired of getting their butt kicked by the class they're asking to be nerfed. I'm sure the devs are fully aware of these kinds of passive-aggressive tactics by now. 2
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xandervalo✭✭✭CleymenZero wrote: »I don't think this guy's ever fought a tankmagplar with 30k health and git it to 10% health only to see Honor the dead burst its health to 90%...
On my magplar, I crit heal with 24k at full health outside Cyrodiil. That's without the Battle Spirit nerf but also with without the low hp buff...
well templar is a whole other subject i dont even want to talk about that on here. i know everyone knows the jab jab jab heal three button rotations, its way too much to even begin a thread on. they need be nerfed badly along with that cheese proc set they all use to allow zos to play the game for them while they sit there brain dead.0 -
xandervalo✭✭✭FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »I guess it was time for the obligatory "Nerf MagSorc" thread to appear.
I tell you. People will not be happy until MagSorc is officially deleted from the game.
IM A MAG SORC I DONT WANT MY CLASS RUINED, i just want things to be fair in this game im tired of it being broken 24/70 -
xandervalo✭✭✭imno007b14_ESO wrote: »Ah, the ol' I play such-and-such class and want it nerfed - and since I play the class that must mean I'm just being really honest and want what's best for the game. Gimme a break. In most cases they don't currently play the class, or never have, or are playing a class they like more now and are tired of getting their butt kicked by the class they're asking to be nerfed. I'm sure the devs are fully aware of these kinds of passive-aggressive tactics by now.
I will prove it to anyone who wants to see i am strictly a mag sorc, i love magicka its all i know LOL has anyone seen my try to play anything else. I literally am not decent at anything other than magden maybe haha. I have been playing magsorc since beta I have the monkey to prove it.0 -
xandervalo✭✭✭https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1908916541 FOR everyone that does not believe me that i am a magsorc, and for those of you that do not see the foulness of this heal (note it is not yet even morphed) read the self heal no cp2
