Anyone else feeling upset for our devs and the strain they must be under? (Positive post)

Guyle · November 2019

Ppl expressing their frustrations and negativity about the current state of the game on forums is a good thing. Because in my experience, when it stops its either because the issues got fixed, or the ppl complaining stopped playing. You tell me which is the better outcome.

shaielzafine · November 2019

Nope lol. I have to say because of this game having so many problems I ended up trying a lot of other MMOs before finally sticking with FFXIV. ESO has a better concept of PvP but it constantly crashes and has disconnects and performance problems so I can't play ESO anyway. And if you love housing on ESO, I just want to say other MMOs and games also have housing that aren't limited time exclusive nor do they cost IRL money for the fancy exclusive houses. I had 28 houses on ESO and it was fun decorating the private island and the castles but I'm very happy with FF's guild house + apartments + private houses as well. And they're included with subscription as long as you manage to snag a plot or join a guild with a house.

Edit to add: The ESO devs can do much better. Other devs can communicate with their fans consistently and roll out emergency patches to fix server issues, why does ESO need until like 2020? I thought ESO by Elsweyr patch was the most people playing, where's all the money Zenimax is getting then if the servers constantly have so many problems??? Is this management problem at this point or what? And why do ESO devs constantly change their minds drastically, nerfing and buffing all at once without any respect for the player's time and effort to make builds?

Don't forget to buy the new season of lootboxes and the totally cosmetic pet that has extra inventory slots. Grab a limited edition digital item before it runs out using your crown gems leftover from gambling on the crown crates!! Don't worry about the performance problems they're getting fixed in 2020* (with their disclaimer, also lol at "fixed")

IndianaJames7 · November 2019

mague wrote: »

What you call "negative feedback" is a heavy *** storm. Really sad to see such happen to real people for a few configured pixels who jump when i press A. We all know it is not about the game itself, it is about something else.

Wut.

Let me assure you that any complaints I bring to the forums are in fact 100% based on the game itself. Or have I misunderstood you?

Rain_Greyraven · November 2019

I'm pretty sure that anyone with a IQ above 84 understands that the vast majority of forum outrage is from Trolls that enjoy playing the forums more than they do the game.

I know people who buy the game when it's on sale for five bucks just to sock puppet negative threads they start. The game has issues but it's no better or worse than any other MMO.

The internet, where everyone is pissed off and nothing is real.

Drako_Ei · November 2019

Turelus wrote: »

Raiden_Gekkou wrote: »

The devs just throw crap at the wall and see what sticks, then sometimes adjusts things based on our feedback. They hardly even play their own game.

Whilst not all of them play, nor play every day like many of us, there are a decent number of ZOS staff who play the game in various areas of play. This can normally be seen via their social media accounts or through chatting with them at events.

Yeah i remember seeing the devs not being able to do vMOS.

wavingblue · November 2019

Rain_Greyraven wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that anyone with a IQ above 84 understands that the vast majority of forum outrage is from Trolls that enjoy playing the forums more than they do the game.

I know people who buy the game when it's on sale for five bucks just to sock puppet negative threads they start. The game has issues but it's no better or worse than any other MMO.

The internet, where everyone is pissed off and nothing is real.

Outrageously wrong. Most of the people complaining are those with thousands of hours invested in the game who have watched the performance go to utter ***. I'm pretty sure everyone posting about those that have an IQ above 84 is full of themselves.

Saltisol · November 2019

To OP
Such a delusional post, just sad.

grannas211 · November 2019

Feel sorry for someone doing their job? No get that care bear stuff out of here.

Doing their job horribly as well not like that needs said.

Aurielle · November 2019

wishlist14 wrote: »

Kagukan wrote: »

I am paying for this game because I still enjoy it. If I felt the same as OP then not only would I stop paying, I would stop playing.

I love eso, I am addicted to checking these forums and made this thread to thank the devs and give them some positive feedback in a sea of negativity. The forums don't affect my game experience but they don't help my memtal health so i have to be careful to stay away when the negativity gets overwhelming.

I guess im here to defend my game as there is nothing out there as good or fun as eso for me personally. So im not hoing to allow negativity to stop,me from playing my game.

Thank you kindly for your response 😊❤

Forgive me if this sounds harsh, but it sounds to me like you’ve developed an unhealthy attachment to this game. If negative forum posts “don’t help” your mental health, and you feel “nothing out there” is “as good or fun as eso for me personally,” then you might need to unplug from the game for a bit. Step back into the real world. Focus on your connections with real people.

ESO is just a video game. Never forget that.

InaMoonlight · November 2019

*Insert world's tiniest violin* (they even made a theft-item called something like "miniature violin*" to link AT people...) Anyone actually thinks screaming at the top of your lungs and yelling death threats against them and their born or unborn children, puppies and mothers over and over, makes them super inclined to give a damn? Hint, You're not anything resembling what they want to have to deal with EVERY day, be constructive, even humorous at own expense, and quit the damned zero-perspective - You really think ANYONE getting screeched at instead of logically, calmy, even forcing a smile now and then, and explained UNEMOTIONALLY MIGHT will pay attention to your issue faster?... More listening to the row of "screechers" YOU WORK FOR ME!!!!-People? Just an idea. It tends to work for me once in a couple blue moons.

I am no saint, but some of you make me look pretty damned good

mateosalvaje · November 2019

I love these kinds of posts, and I've made a few myself. Thank you @wishlist14 😊

I feel like all too often people come to the forums just to spout negativity. Yes there are and always will be problems which need to be pointed out and addressed, and I truly believe the developers do the best they can. There are issues that they know about and are constantly working on, but sometimes coding to fix one thing breaks another. Then arises another issue that when fixed may start another problem ad nauseam.

I think people forget that devs should care about and have passion for what they do, but they're human. That passion wouldn't be there if they didn't care, and that caring wouldn't be there if they weren't human. Guess what... Part of being human is making mistakes. They need to have time to be social, alone, eat, sleep, play video games, take breaks, and live their lives. Yet I bet some of them are mentally calculating and creating even at those times.

The stories are gripping, the environments are rich, the music moving. ESO is entrancing, and has no more problems than the world we live in.

I haven't gone into Southern Elsweyr yet, I'll wait a while until things cool down, but I have no doubt that I'll be delighted with what I find there when I do.

Thank you @TESOnline for creating these places for us to enjoy 💖

KillsAllElves · November 2019

NOPE

Poor performance and ever increasing nerfs to gameplay is have no respect for this game developer. But one thing that is working fine is there stupid clown store.

MentalxHammer · November 2019

Idk man the only playable pvp content in the game right now on console is in Wayrest... that is not acceptable.

MasterSpatula · November 2019

If game designers want to have positive reactions from fans, they either need to do their job in a way that improves people's enjoyment of the game or be active in communicating with the community so we know them, know their personalities, know their intentions, know why they think what they're doing makes a better game even if we might not agree.

If they can't do either of these, then they've earned negativity.

(Oh, and I never miss a chance to praise the world building, the art design, the storytelling, and the music. And I'll heap praise on the quests when they're good, which, outside of some dailies, they mostly are.)

Jeremy · November 2019

wishlist14 wrote: »

I am feeling overwhelmed by the negative feedback on our forums to the point it's actually made me feel a bit flat in mood lately. I enjoyed Southern Elsweyr tbh. I loved the main questline and I enjoyed being driven to open up the furnishing achievements. I like to feel motivated to accomplish achievable tasks.
The npcs were fantastic, loved them all and it was great to reunite with some of the older ones too. I had a lot of laughs and giggles(no spoilers).
I was also in awe of the dragons, those amazing majestic creatures always grab my attention but my biggest treat was .....( spoiler so cant say as some have not yet played the dlc.) I also found the landscape stunning and it was very enjoyable to explore.

I must say that the storyline was very interesting and it kept me entertained. I want to take this time and space to thank our devs " Thank you for this beautiful and fun dlc and also for the extra week you gifted us for the event. I know it must be a very tough and trying time for all of you and I'm sure you are working extra hours to fix many of the issues our servers have been experiencing. I need you to know I love this game and i want you all to succeed so we can keep enjoying eso for many more years to come.

I hear so many complaints yet eso has some of the best story telling of any game i have played thus far. The housing system is better than anything that is out there. I love the realistic yet uniqueness of eso furnishings and housing. I think time is needed for our devs to get the servers working properly...I feel this is a process that is being worked on right now. I have to be honest and say that the combat system is weak atm and im not enjoying it...if i had a choice i would rewind the game but it is still not a deal breaker for me. I'm still here and i still have hope and faith in eso.....i am sure there are many players that want eso to flourish, to move onwards and upwards. I also want to add that i enjoyed the grapples more than i imagined i would 😅😃.

Thank you Zenimax team ❤

Thank you all for your responses.😊

I thought the story line of Southern Elseweyr was particular good as well. Also, I liked what they did with the Dragonguard Sanctum and how you could unlock different areas and NPCS as you did quests. I hope to see that concept expanded on in the future.

Actually I made a post very similar to your's a few days ago saying basically the same things. But I wouldn't worry too much about the negative comments/feedback on the forums. I'd be very surprised if the developers let it bother them.

precambria · November 2019

They are just people and there probably isn't as many of them as some of people might think, I hope they don't feel disheartened by the technical problems and just stay focused on whatever their area is and that they have a good holiday season too.

Sigma957 · November 2019

To OP rest assured that a major majority of players don't even visit the forums and just play the game how they want

This game I have spent the most hours playing and enjoy it still even when I get disconnected on the final boss in a vet dungeon or disconnected before collecting a big AP defense bonus in Cyrodiil, what matter is I am still here

Ryath_Waylander · November 2019

No

WildWilbur · November 2019

Nope. Since months I'm just logging in for the daily rewards (4 da statistics @ ZOS), just being too lazy to unsub. Can't motivate myself to pvp since my builds regulary gets destroyed and being a filthy casual I just won't waste my little gaming time hunting news sets over and over.

But will play the story sometime (after Outer Worlds, Red Dead 2 and Fallen order), treating ESO as an solo rpg until another MMORPG catches my eye.

Oh, and ZOS, where is my "Kick-in-the-groin"-emote for subbing since release? No? Not even the "Everyone-is-laughing-about-you"-emote? *sniffle*

ATomiX69 · November 2019

Nah, its deserved criticism. Look at other MMOs and how fast they are to fix their *** and compare it to ESO, performance Issues in PvP / Trials were present for like the last two to three years and it took them a whooping two years to come up with an statement that they are aware of it and that they are gonna fix it in another half a year...
Yet they dont seem to struggle with pushing out cosmetics and other real money currency stuff every few weeks on schedule.
Yeah fixing performance is definitly harder than pushing cosmetics, I get that, but the fact that they were well aware for so long and just avoided the topic whenever people were pointing out the flaws is what justifies all the criticism and pressure comming from the community.

Tigerseye · November 2019

Hallothiel wrote: »

Rather than post here, why don’t those unhappy with things do a small bit of research & find out company contact details and use them to explain their discontent?

Don't think there is much point.

They know what is going on and they said they would fix it, months ago.

Either they will, or they won't.

Tigerseye · November 2019

wishlist14 wrote: »

Kagukan wrote: »

I am paying for this game because I still enjoy it. If I felt the same as OP then not only would I stop paying, I would stop playing.

I love eso, I am addicted to checking these forums and made this thread to thank the devs and give them some positive feedback in a sea of negativity. The forums don't affect my game experience but they don't help my memtal health so i have to be careful to stay away when the negativity gets overwhelming.

I guess im here to defend my game as there is nothing out there as good or fun as eso for me personally. So im not hoing to allow negativity to stop,me from playing my game.

Thank you kindly for your response 😊❤

It's not your game, though, it's the manufacturer's game.

They make it, they make decisions re. server capacity etc..

It's a product you happen to use, pure and simple.

You really should not allow someone criticising a product, they also happen to use (and have genuine problems with), affect your mental health.

You are free to continue using whichever product you prefer, as are we all and you are also free to say whatever you like about that product, as is everyone else.

Tigerseye · November 2019

preevious wrote: »

Yes, I actually feel quite bad about it.

I'm on PC EU, and, granted, we sometimes have a bit of troubles/login issues. Still, the game runs perfectly fine most of the time, and is so vastly superior to most other MMO that it's not even worth mentioning.

I feel bad for the dev team and for the community managers sustaining fire on these forums.

I also feel ashamed for all the entitled Whiny McComplains crying threads after threads despite playing withput issues most of the time. Seriously, let's be honnest a second. If they had issues every single time, they wouldn't play, and thus wouldn't complain. Those sad guys need help..

I don't "play without issues most of the time".

The lag when doing dragons at peak times is ridiculous and the game crashes multiple times a day (and has for ages).

I'm certainly not alone.

You can't speak for anyone but yourself and I doubt you are even doing that honestly, here.

Tigerseye · November 2019

IndianaJames7 wrote: »

mague wrote: »

What you call "negative feedback" is a heavy *** storm. Really sad to see such happen to real people for a few configured pixels who jump when i press A. We all know it is not about the game itself, it is about something else.

Wut.

Let me assure you that any complaints I bring to the forums are in fact 100% based on the game itself. Or have I misunderstood you?

He's trying to insinuate that everyone, who complains about this product, has nothing genuine to complain about and is really complaining about their life, or something. ><

Pathetic (and probably highly unprofessional) attempt to deflect attention away from the genuine problems people are having with a consumer product they bought.

Imagine you bought a material item in real life, it was broken when you received it, you took it back to the shop to complain and they tried to tell you you weren't really complaining about the broken product, but in fact some other problem in your life.

Hilarious.

Hallothiel · November 2019

Tigerseye wrote: »

Hallothiel wrote: »

Rather than post here, why don’t those unhappy with things do a small bit of research & find out company contact details and use them to explain their discontent?

Don't think there is much point.

They know what is going on and they said they would fix it, months ago.

Either they will, or they won't.

Maybe you are right - but just know from experience that if senior execs start getting bothered directly by complaints then things can magically get sorted a lot sooner.

But maybe that’s me working in public sector in UK.

MajBludd · November 2019

OP, how long have you been playing eso?
Edit* @Rain_Greyraven you are so far from the truth. How long have you been playing eso?

zarocco26 · November 2019

This is why they should have decoupled the combat "standardization" update from the DLC. I wanted to be excited about dragonhold, but the combat nerfs sucked all the fun out of this patch. The pattern of yay new content bah new nerfs is the fault of the devs, because they can't settle on a direction for combat. Storytelling, world building, lore ect are amazing, but the combat team continues to choose balance over fun, which is why the forums are full of negativity

Warndihr · November 2019

I played another MORPG for 15 years, got fed up with everything that happened with that game and decided to rage quit. I thought, start from scratch with another game was long time out of the picture until I tried ESO a few month ago.
This is a beautiful game with tons and tons of content and with an interesting story line. In my opinion, compared to the support we got playing this other game, ESO is a dream :P and compared, Z is doing a fantastic job. But remember, I’m fairly new so this is my personal opinion.

NekoTashi · November 2019

A BIG thank you and thumbs up to the developers team for the great work and effort they've put into the Northern/Southern Elsweyr DLC!!! I have so much fun playing these DLC's with my khajiit. I always have fun playing TESO in general. But being a cat lover, the Elsweyr DLC's touches my heart with every quest I do and every interaction I have with the local NPC's. It has everything I ever dreamed of as a child. And you guys made that into reality. Words can't express enough my gratitude towards you, the developers team! You certainly have gained a permanent player and supporter right here!

Rain_Greyraven · November 2019

wavingblue wrote: »

Rain_Greyraven wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that anyone with a IQ above 84 understands that the vast majority of forum outrage is from Trolls that enjoy playing the forums more than they do the game.

I know people who buy the game when it's on sale for five bucks just to sock puppet negative threads they start. The game has issues but it's no better or worse than any other MMO.

The internet, where everyone is pissed off and nothing is real.

Outrageously wrong. Most of the people complaining are those with thousands of hours invested in the game who have watched the performance go to utter ***. I'm pretty sure everyone posting about those that have an IQ above 84 is full of themselves.

Performance is a YMMV situation, it has been shown time and again that many of the people crying about performance are playing on console with 2G wi-fi, also can you give any empirical evidence that the "Z0$ Suuuxxorz" crowd actually has thousands of hours invested? Because I have been playing since beta,attended every Quake Con the dev team has attended and have literally discussed this with a metric crap ton of actual players.

The people who have the most issues are console players on wi-fi, there is also a contingent that is pissed off because ESO isn't more Skyrim, (like the Angry Joe's Angry army) then we have your standard everything isn't free so I'm going to raise hell until it is squad.

The point is Zenimax knows what is real and what is BS, they have the only actual metrics, everything else is just guesswork, progress continues to be made on actual connectivity issues, but no matter what they do the tantrums on the forums will never stop.