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WhiteScythe
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Edited by WhiteScythe on December 25, 2016 4:00AM
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  • dermottib14_ESO
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    Horrible support here.
  • Soliduparrow
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    Greetings traveler,

    Please use the /reloadui function. If that does not work please reinstall the game. I assume that solves the problem and I will be closing the ticket.

    Thank you for supporting The Elder Scrolls online. Hope to see you in Tamariel!
  • dermottib14_ESO
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    "use /camp, it will clear yours cache, login in 15 minutes"

    lul wut? No thats not going to fix your SERVER SIDE ISSUE
  • Anoteros
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    eh go pre order Wildstar and play something with a bit more polish.
  • Kanuax
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    LOL Not to dismiss the issues stated here; but calling Wildstar polished is the joke of the century, just saying
  • Noth
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    While all those are issues, ZoS has addressed them in one way or another. Heck there is a sticky thread just for the bank issue. New games have issues, particularly a MMO. If you want to play a much more polished MMO you should wait till 6 months or so after it is released.
  • Anoteros
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    LOL Not to dismiss the issues stated here; but calling Wildstar polished is the joke of the century, just saying
    Must be playing it on a Gameboy?

  • WhiteScythe
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    Edited by WhiteScythe on December 25, 2016 4:00AM
    NA-PC Daggerfall Covenant #dcforlife
    WTB OCEANIC SERVER -- because 250+ MS is UNPLAYABLE
    ESO+ Officially DEAD 2025
    WHY do we NOT have cross platform servers in 2025?
  • LimeFox
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    I actually found and reported several missing textures the other day. In most released games, finding a big red box with MISSING slapped all over it would give me pause. In ESO, I just had to laugh and move on, thankful that it wasn't actually a bug or glitch that could reset my bank, kill my horse, or turn my poor Khajiit Nightblade back into a toddler. :p
  • Neo
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    Ceresin wrote: »
    In some ways yes this is a bit of a rant however I still do currently play a few MMORPG's out there and have been through the horrible launches, errors and other game breaking issues but nothing quite like what we're experiencing here.

    Quests

    AD main quest line is broken/bugged at Motes in the Moonlight in Reaper's March. Players who are still wanting to CONTINUE to play their characters are forced to grind level, while this isn't so bad to some it is to those who want to progress and move on. I'm unsure about other main quest lines for the other factions but have since made a new character on DC because of the frustration my level 45 AD toon is stuck.

    Bots & Spam

    Nothing has physically been done to combat this at all besides a minor fix to the chat so that we could scroll up and ignore. We're still seeing multiple bots camping boss spawns. In-game chat is being flooded constantly, do we not have ONE person monitoring this at all?

    Character Bank/Items & Player Skills

    DISAPPEARING. Be cautious and don't buy the bank upgrade, thankfully I didn't purchase this even before I heard about the bug. Why has this not been addressed yet? Recently got a talent and it didn't work? Holy hell this is game breaking.

    Guild Stores

    Sorry Zenimax but they just DO NOT WORK. The concerns of the community have been ignored for so long regarding this as it's REALLY not the right way to go about bringing people together. Give us a proper Auction House in-game, not the website based version I've seen flying around.

    Communication

    The communication with the community is appalling. I have never witnessed such poor relaying of information.. All we ask is that we are notified of the problems and if emergency maintenance is needed. This is a rather simple request as I'm sure everyone agrees as we are the consumers, we need to know.

    ESO Forums

    I'm sorry Zeni but these forums are abysmal. Not only do they look terrible we also have to pick through UNWANTED languages to find the English posts. This has been commented on before and yet nothing happening.. probably won't ever happen.

    PvP & Cyrodiil

    Game crashed? Lagging? Mounts behaving oddly? How about crashing while trying to mount? The list goes on and on for Cyrodiil map and yet not ONE thing has been mentioned of these fixes.

    Graphic Glitches & Animations

    Anyone play a female character here? Anyone else noticed that the hair style they chose when sprinting or mounted looks like they have been electrocuted? Got a character with a bow? Noticed that the bow while hidden makes you half stand up and bow stays frozen (noticed this more as a Khajiit as my tail tends to act like it's glitching) This isn't as serious as many other issues out there but I have read many threads about these yet again: zero, zilch, nada, zip. Not one word about this.



    Last but not least: THE ESO LAUNCHER and those infamous errors! When will this be resolved? Many people are waiting to play your game yet we can't because it is broken, solutions have been posted but to those who have tried these and were unsuccessful are left hanging in limbo. THIS IS YOUR PROBLEM, NOT OURS.

    Feel free to leave comments, thoughts or to flame me but it remains the fact that this is getting worse and worse without any real improvement. If I left any issues out please post as hopefully someone views these and takes notice.

    Better do something quick otherwise all of these players are already thinking of other games to return to.

    sounds like most of your issues are your computer, EG crashing when mounting do some research buddy lol
  • Neo
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    Ceresin wrote: »
    Never did I once mention "Wildstar" :/

    This is about the game we're playing now, you know.. The Elder Scrolls Online?

    Oh wait correction, currently NOT playing because it's still f****d up hours later after a "maintenance"

    Yep.

    how is it fkd up? Pretty sure everyone fixed the 209 error, and if you didn't you need to go back to school because it's NOT HARD
  • KerinKor
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    Ceresin wrote: »
    Better do something quick otherwise all of these players are already thinking of other games to return to.
    The small number who may have a hissy fit and 'leave' over short-term problems won't hurt the game on the long run.
  • Nuadin
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    Ceresin wrote: »
    Never did I once mention "Wildstar" :/

    Yeah, but they weren't referring to you, they were referring to a commenter. Though your post may be referring to that original commenter?

    However, this is off topic. I think I got caught in the tail-end of the patcher error, I was only slightly affected and was easy perform a workaround (though it looks like a fix is wandering the forums), that took probably 15 minutes at most.

    The guilds being a source of trades do annoy me and I don't use them, or plan on using them. Also wouldn't have independent trade systems cause trade systems to become unbalanced. Balance is normally something that must be maintained with an AH, and to avoid inflation. With so many separate I feel it's more likely to result in that. But perhaps they leave it to the guilds to settle that (Or buy from a low selling guild and sell to a high selling guild) I imagine using those types of trade mechanics were though of when creating this type of system. Oh well that's a conversation for another time.

    I don't like the forums setup as well, it's hard to find things. But I thought I saw Zenimax mention that, when they created the forum, that there may be multiple edits with the forum to setup an optimal forum system. Sounds to me like they are working on it.

    I think you are being too harsh, but I work in technical support. I see a lot of the behind the scenes work and so I may not be as harsh as you, persay.
    Edited by Nuadin on April 16, 2014 7:57AM
  • onetow92
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    my game is broken now.i'm so disappointed in eso's service.
  • slt101880b14_ESO
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    I'm just tired of getting kicked from the game every 30 minutes
  • WhiteScythe
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    Edited by WhiteScythe on December 25, 2016 4:01AM
    NA-PC Daggerfall Covenant #dcforlife
    WTB OCEANIC SERVER -- because 250+ MS is UNPLAYABLE
    ESO+ Officially DEAD 2025
    WHY do we NOT have cross platform servers in 2025?
  • Chomag
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    My own contribution.

    PVP
    Basically the player vs. player part, not the siege mechanics. The class resources (mana and stamina) are too low and get spent way too fast. I do not like to engage a player in a 1v1 and see my stuff hit rock bottom in the first 3 seconds, leaving me out of options and just hitting light attacks until I get a bit of stuff so I can do something else.

    The health is also way too low and players drop too fast. Often enough you only need a good opener to drop somebody, this is bad design and has nothing to do with player skill. It's the same reason the Rogue class in WoW has been nerfed to not be able to drop players in the opener, even though that still happens.

    Boosting system does no work. Been in a Cyrodiil match where a level 50 killed 3 level 20 players in the same fight. Boosting is a joke and only ensures low level players aren't 1 shotted by aoe, it does nothing to help against max level players.

    Also, personally, getting pissed as hell running 1000 miles in Cyrodiil to get 3 shotted by some npcs guarding a flag, though granted I'm level 10 but that boosting of yours doesn't seem to work at all. I died more to random npcs than actual players, and I haven't done any kind of PVE content in Cyrodiil. Also has to do with the Health being too low.

    PVP IS NOT FUN in this game. You either get the jump on someone and nuke him in 3 seconds or he gets the jump on you and you're dead. No way to run, no way to survive, and if there is more than 1 and they aren't much lower level, just bend over and take it like a man.

    Questing.
    SO BORING! I dunno who the hell designed this content but questing is so damn boring. At this point I'll take WoW's collect 10 heads from 100 mobs as it seems not all mobs have heads in WoW over ESO's questing, at least WoW let you have fun with combat while you were killing the 100 mobs. Which brings me to the next point.

    Combat


    SO TEDIOUS! I'm sorry but combat is just not that fun. There are too few keys available, no RNG moves that do very large damage and resources get depleted too fast, and then you're stuck with light/heavy attacks. Wanting to heal in combat? No chance, your self heal drains a metric ton of mana and you're stuck with even more light/heavy attacks while the mob(s) out damage you.
    The animations are also lackluster.

    Lack of features
    *No auctionhouse. Stupid as hell. The guild stores just don't work. I joined a trade guild that had 60 people in it -> NOTHING in the guild store, nothing at all, nada, no one was bothering with it, everyone expected someone else to put something there.
    *No chat boxes. What?!
    *No transmogrification. Sure, we wouldn't want to make the game TOO diverse.

    Poorly implemented features
    (biased by personal opinions)
    *Character models are glitchy.
    -Bow shafts clipping through the back of the head
    -Bow strings clipping through tails
    -Shields clipping through the back of the head
    -Arms clipping through sheathed 2handed weapons
    -Tails clipping through feet
    Some people may call these nitpicking but I found myself only able to play the female khajiit model as its flat back of the head meant bows and shields were clipping very little through it, as opposed to humanoid models who have round back of heads.

    *Badly designed character stats.
    Attributes. A terrible idea. This part of the character sheet should be removed from player control. I have seen character builds telling people to spam points into Health and then enchant items toward the other stats or use items that offer these stats. What is this game, Diablo ?! Only in Diablo you farmed items with the right stats to make your build viable, and Diablo is all about RNG. Personally, I hate to see my build depending on the RNG fact that I may or may not find a certain piece of equipment. Buying enchants seems like an epic quest since the game has no AH so I must hunt some enchanters. Yeah, I think I'll pass on that, thank you very much.

    "Player whatever you want". A blatant lie. You cannot play whatever and however you want. There are still lines in which you must fall or your character will be gimped. For instance, let's assume you want to play a Nightblade archer wearing heavy armor. WRONG! Your bow's attacks are boosted by the Stamina stat which in turn is boosted by your passive medium armorcharacteristics, an armor which you don't plan on using. Also you will want Critical Strike stat which, once again, only medium armor offers. Your archer in heavy armor is just one big joke when it comes to serious PVP or PVE.

    *Public dungeons*
    This has been mentioned before but these things are absolutely infested with bots. ZOS guys, do you mean to say you DID NOT see this coming ?! You did not expect a farmable npc that drops good loot to be...FARMED, not necessarily by actual players?! Epic fail ?

    *Surrendering to gold spammers*
    I swear, in 10 years worth of MMOs I have NEVER seen so many gold spammers in one game. ZOS isn't doing anything at all to curb their numbers or doing way too little. I have about 10 gold spammers in my ignore list and have reported tons more. People are even claiming their ignore lists are full with gold spammers and can't add anything more it.
    I have disabled zone chat myself but the gold spammers won't let such a minor detail stop them. You get mail with gold spam, you get invited to...what appears to be gold spamming guilds (yeah, sounds hilarious until you experience it) as well. This game turned gold spamming into an art.

    I could write more but I gotta get to work. Bottom line is, the MMO side of this game is terrible and amateur-like and the game certainly was not ready for release. I don't plan on paying a subscription to it, it's not an MMO that is worth a sub, maybe in 6 months-1 year if ZOS takes A LOT of advice from the player community but it's very likely the game will be f2p by then and I don't engage in f2p crap.


  • deheartb14_ESO
    Despite the fact that there are some good points in a couple of these posts, like the gold sellers/botters and the auction houses split between guilds, most of the complaints said here could be quotes pulled off of the forums from other MMO's from when they too were fresh from startup.

    There is pretty much no real difference between the frustrating problems we are having here to the frustrating problems that happened in other games.
    This is my Signature, but not really because I didn't sign it with a pen and its not my name.
  • Sojan
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    I am having post cards made, "Having a great time, wish you were here!" I just hope I am not slapped with some kind of copyright infringement from Zeni and company for using their graphics.

    Side Note: Everybody that thinks they can make a better game, go ahead and get after it. In the mean time, breathe and count to ten.
  • WhiteScythe
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    Edited by WhiteScythe on December 25, 2016 4:01AM
    NA-PC Daggerfall Covenant #dcforlife
    WTB OCEANIC SERVER -- because 250+ MS is UNPLAYABLE
    ESO+ Officially DEAD 2025
    WHY do we NOT have cross platform servers in 2025?
  • fiachsidhe
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    Zenimax/Bethesda is nothing without their infinitely more competent modding community. This has all but been proven by years of broken TES/Fallout releases, in which a vast majority of bugs go untouched.

    It's really quite awful that this company routinely releases unfinished code for full price, and ignores issues for months, if not forever.

    It's ridiculous how arrogant they've become as a company. (read their glassdoor reviews). It seems the upper management is utterly incompetent.

    I'm trying to love this game, but its clear Zenimax has been riding its modders' coattails, and not the other way around. and this time, the modders can't cover for them.
    Edited by fiachsidhe on April 17, 2014 4:33AM
    Don't have an intelligent argument? Just LOL a post!

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  • Anoteros
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    Chomag wrote: »
    My own contribution.

    PVP
    Basically the player vs. player part, not the siege mechanics. The class resources (mana and stamina) are too low and get spent way too fast. I do not like to engage a player in a 1v1 and see my stuff hit rock bottom in the first 3 seconds, leaving me out of options and just hitting light attacks until I get a bit of stuff so I can do something else.

    The health is also way too low and players drop too fast. Often enough you only need a good opener to drop somebody, this is bad design and has nothing to do with player skill. It's the same reason the Rogue class in WoW has been nerfed to not be able to drop players in the opener, even though that still happens.

    Boosting system does no work. Been in a Cyrodiil match where a level 50 killed 3 level 20 players in the same fight. Boosting is a joke and only ensures low level players aren't 1 shotted by aoe, it does nothing to help against max level players.

    Also, personally, getting pissed as hell running 1000 miles in Cyrodiil to get 3 shotted by some npcs guarding a flag, though granted I'm level 10 but that boosting of yours doesn't seem to work at all. I died more to random npcs than actual players, and I haven't done any kind of PVE content in Cyrodiil. Also has to do with the Health being too low.

    PVP IS NOT FUN in this game. You either get the jump on someone and nuke him in 3 seconds or he gets the jump on you and you're dead. No way to run, no way to survive, and if there is more than 1 and they aren't much lower level, just bend over and take it like a man.

    Questing.
    SO BORING! I dunno who the hell designed this content but questing is so damn boring. At this point I'll take WoW's collect 10 heads from 100 mobs as it seems not all mobs have heads in WoW over ESO's questing, at least WoW let you have fun with combat while you were killing the 100 mobs. Which brings me to the next point.

    Combat


    SO TEDIOUS! I'm sorry but combat is just not that fun. There are too few keys available, no RNG moves that do very large damage and resources get depleted too fast, and then you're stuck with light/heavy attacks. Wanting to heal in combat? No chance, your self heal drains a metric ton of mana and you're stuck with even more light/heavy attacks while the mob(s) out damage you.
    The animations are also lackluster.

    Lack of features
    *No auctionhouse. Stupid as hell. The guild stores just don't work. I joined a trade guild that had 60 people in it -> NOTHING in the guild store, nothing at all, nada, no one was bothering with it, everyone expected someone else to put something there.
    *No chat boxes. What?!
    *No transmogrification. Sure, we wouldn't want to make the game TOO diverse.

    Poorly implemented features
    (biased by personal opinions)
    *Character models are glitchy.
    -Bow shafts clipping through the back of the head
    -Bow strings clipping through tails
    -Shields clipping through the back of the head
    -Arms clipping through sheathed 2handed weapons
    -Tails clipping through feet
    Some people may call these nitpicking but I found myself only able to play the female khajiit model as its flat back of the head meant bows and shields were clipping very little through it, as opposed to humanoid models who have round back of heads.

    *Badly designed character stats.
    Attributes. A terrible idea. This part of the character sheet should be removed from player control. I have seen character builds telling people to spam points into Health and then enchant items toward the other stats or use items that offer these stats. What is this game, Diablo ?! Only in Diablo you farmed items with the right stats to make your build viable, and Diablo is all about RNG. Personally, I hate to see my build depending on the RNG fact that I may or may not find a certain piece of equipment. Buying enchants seems like an epic quest since the game has no AH so I must hunt some enchanters. Yeah, I think I'll pass on that, thank you very much.

    "Player whatever you want". A blatant lie. You cannot play whatever and however you want. There are still lines in which you must fall or your character will be gimped. For instance, let's assume you want to play a Nightblade archer wearing heavy armor. WRONG! Your bow's attacks are boosted by the Stamina stat which in turn is boosted by your passive medium armorcharacteristics, an armor which you don't plan on using. Also you will want Critical Strike stat which, once again, only medium armor offers. Your archer in heavy armor is just one big joke when it comes to serious PVP or PVE.

    *Public dungeons*
    This has been mentioned before but these things are absolutely infested with bots. ZOS guys, do you mean to say you DID NOT see this coming ?! You did not expect a farmable npc that drops good loot to be...FARMED, not necessarily by actual players?! Epic fail ?

    *Surrendering to gold spammers*
    I swear, in 10 years worth of MMOs I have NEVER seen so many gold spammers in one game. ZOS isn't doing anything at all to curb their numbers or doing way too little. I have about 10 gold spammers in my ignore list and have reported tons more. People are even claiming their ignore lists are full with gold spammers and can't add anything more it.
    I have disabled zone chat myself but the gold spammers won't let such a minor detail stop them. You get mail with gold spam, you get invited to...what appears to be gold spamming guilds (yeah, sounds hilarious until you experience it) as well. This game turned gold spamming into an art.

    I could write more but I gotta get to work. Bottom line is, the MMO side of this game is terrible and amateur-like and the game certainly was not ready for release. I don't plan on paying a subscription to it, it's not an MMO that is worth a sub, maybe in 6 months-1 year if ZOS takes A LOT of advice from the player community but it's very likely the game will be f2p by then and I don't engage in f2p crap.

    Absolutely agree with you on all points.
    Combat is *** and ability resources are even worse and you can see it's just a slapped on under developed feature. Each class should have had its own resource like rage/fury/magic etc that regenerate at a slightly faster rate...I could plant a seed and watch it grow into a tree by the time my magicka regens in combat >.<
    Gold spam I have my theories ZOS are in cahoots with the vermin.
    Public dungeons should be instanced to the player/group.

    It's obvious ZOS have done ZERO research from other successful mmorpgs on the market. Guilds, lack of auction house, painful ui, 5 button action bars which share resources all reek of lazy console coddling.


    fiachsidhe wrote: »
    Zenimax/Bethesda is nothing without their infinitely more competent modding community. This has all but been proven by years of broken TES/Fallout releases, in which a vast majority of bugs go untouched.

    It's really quite awful that this company routinely releases unfinished code for full price, and ignores issues for months, if not forever.

    Its ridiculous how arrogant they've become as a company. (read their glassdoor reviews). It seems the upper management is utterly incompetent.

    I'm trying to love this game, but its clear Zenimax has been riding its modders' coattails, and not the other way around. and this time, the modders can't cover for them.

    Yep. The client prior to all the publicity betas had a bit more mmorpg functionality and features.
    Retarding the API to the point that we can't even see how much damage we're doing, healing, mob attacks etc without the use of addons is pathetic.
    Don't go mentioning nameplates though as the moderators on here will swiftly SHUTDOWN the thread.
  • Anoteros
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    Despite the fact that there are some good points in a couple of these posts, like the gold sellers/botters and the auction houses split between guilds, most of the complaints said here could be quotes pulled off of the forums from other MMO's from when they too were fresh from startup.

    There is pretty much no real difference between the frustrating problems we are having here to the frustrating problems that happened in other games.
    Other games at least tackled massive problems from the get go or had measures in place from launch to deter most things ie: gold spammers and not let them spiral out of control.

    You do realise alpha/beta has a purpose besides fluffing fanboys and hype right?

  • Argurios
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    Love when people say "its obvious" in their posts as if that means that the assumptions they make from either having a terrible PC or just being a bad player are somehow legit.

    Seriously, if you don't like "riding 10 minutes" in Cyrodil, play a different game, or learn to play this one and die less. NEWSFLASH: Running into the first fight you see usually gets you killed! Go play COD.

    A lot of the problems i see people whine about here are either very minor, and more than acceptable for a game that is still not even been out a month yet, or they are just down to people who made their own PC's with no idea about how to do it other than a youtube video. Yes its cheap, no it doesn't always work out. Or if your game doesnt match the minimum specs, guess what? It won't work properly.

    Yes there are bugs, but guess what? This is the best MMO launch i have ever seen, in 10 years of playing MMO's. People are so fickle and forget so easily. I think half the people whining are too young to even have any MMO experience. But of course, there are also people that just blame the dev's/game for obvious and easily identifiable problems that they can't be bothered, or simply aren't able, to pick out or remedy.

    Nothing to see here, move along. Just the usual imbeciles blaming anything but themselves.
    " Experience is a hard mistress, she gives the test first, the lesson after... "

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    Caradoc Coldblade - Redguard Nightblade
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  • WhiteScythe
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    NA-PC Daggerfall Covenant #dcforlife
    WTB OCEANIC SERVER -- because 250+ MS is UNPLAYABLE
    ESO+ Officially DEAD 2025
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