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✭The Uninvited wrote: »The Uninvited wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »TriangularChicken wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Urzigurumash wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Nonsense different from nonsensical. Although my English is bad.
It means the same to say "the facts are nonsense" as "the facts are nonsensical". It is slightly more precise to say nonsensical rather than nonsense, from a certain point of view facts cannot be nonsense, but may share characteristics with nonsense, such as defying reason or logic. My point was you described what he had posted as facts, I think you meant to say they are opinions.
So you don't like Bloodspawn, but you do like the nerfs to DOTs? You want defense and offense both nerfed?
I understood you, I corrected.
I use Blood spawn myself. I think the quick accumulation of Ult is what prevents people from using the other kits they want to try. Better to use 2 times the ult than once correctly? I do not want a complete nerf to this good set, my idea was to reduce the recovery points of Ult gen.OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »6% chance to proc every 6 seconds sure if it always procs off cooldown it could be extremely strong. Now let’s consider they reduce the ultimate it grants or remove it entirely what then people will just run balorgh and 2h asylum and damage will skyrocket. Asylum 2h grants up to 15 ultimate on perfected and has no cooldown. Before you ask for a nerf to bloodspawn consider the ramifications and how players will adapt.
Good version. To be honest I'm not asking for a nerf, I just shared my observation.
If they reduce reg this set will also remain one of the best for StamDK, just the number of people will become less who use it to hit the ult 2 times in one cycle.
I against the removal of ult reg.
ok
Yes there is no difference reduce or removal... You like to joke? Let's have fun.
See how many views this topic has and how many people spoke out are all BS players. Ahahaha, I'm probably right about the BS! Fun huh?
I'll tell you a joke. I have been using Bloodspawn for over 2 years and recently (3 months ago) switched to a different monster set. The difference in ultimate generation is barely noticeable.
If it’s barely noticeable to you, then lowering the Ulti regen some should be okay with you.
No. But buffing other sets nobody barely uses would be okay with me.
@p00tx You know what's up, couldn't have said it better myself.
I’m all for buffing other sets. But there is a reason Bloodspawn has been the number 1 monster for Stamina users, and it wasn’t for the mitigation. The Ulti regen is just a bit too much.
That is not the reason. It's because the rest was nerfed until only Bloodspawn was left. Or did we all forget when every stamina player was running with Velidreth for example?Edited by The Uninvited on October 29, 2019 10:06PMPandora's Promise (rip) | LND | Pactriotic | IKnowWhatUDidLastWinter's | The Uninvited |
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✭✭The Uninvited wrote: »The Uninvited wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »TriangularChicken wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Urzigurumash wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Nonsense different from nonsensical. Although my English is bad.
It means the same to say "the facts are nonsense" as "the facts are nonsensical". It is slightly more precise to say nonsensical rather than nonsense, from a certain point of view facts cannot be nonsense, but may share characteristics with nonsense, such as defying reason or logic. My point was you described what he had posted as facts, I think you meant to say they are opinions.
So you don't like Bloodspawn, but you do like the nerfs to DOTs? You want defense and offense both nerfed?
I understood you, I corrected.
I use Blood spawn myself. I think the quick accumulation of Ult is what prevents people from using the other kits they want to try. Better to use 2 times the ult than once correctly? I do not want a complete nerf to this good set, my idea was to reduce the recovery points of Ult gen.OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »6% chance to proc every 6 seconds sure if it always procs off cooldown it could be extremely strong. Now let’s consider they reduce the ultimate it grants or remove it entirely what then people will just run balorgh and 2h asylum and damage will skyrocket. Asylum 2h grants up to 15 ultimate on perfected and has no cooldown. Before you ask for a nerf to bloodspawn consider the ramifications and how players will adapt.
Good version. To be honest I'm not asking for a nerf, I just shared my observation.
If they reduce reg this set will also remain one of the best for StamDK, just the number of people will become less who use it to hit the ult 2 times in one cycle.
I against the removal of ult reg.
ok
Yes there is no difference reduce or removal... You like to joke? Let's have fun.
See how many views this topic has and how many people spoke out are all BS players. Ahahaha, I'm probably right about the BS! Fun huh?
I'll tell you a joke. I have been using Bloodspawn for over 2 years and recently (3 months ago) switched to a different monster set. The difference in ultimate generation is barely noticeable.
If it’s barely noticeable to you, then lowering the Ulti regen some should be okay with you.
No. But buffing other sets nobody barely uses would be okay with me.
@p00tx You know what's up, couldn't have said it better myself.
I’m all for buffing other sets. But there is a reason Bloodspawn has been the number 1 monster for Stamina users, and it wasn’t for the mitigation. The Ulti regen is just a bit too much.
A lot of us use it on mag too (it's badass on a light armor Magplar), and the reason stam uses this primarily is not because it's overpowered, but because the other stam options are ground effect proc sets, which is trash for high mobility PvP. You need sets whose effects move with the wearer, like BS, Skoria, Balorgh, etc.PC/Xbox NA
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Calboy✭✭✭✭✭Bloodspawn has been how it is for a very long time and suddenly people decide its overpowered?
It's probably one of the most balanced sets in the game.
How about we buff other monster sets to be as equally balanced as bloodspawn and give the players a better selection to build from instead of sucking the fun out of the game?
I would also like to know what's next in line after the bloodspawn agenda is dealt with so I can avoid it? Let's me guess, troll king then skoria?2 -
Zevrro✭✭✭✭The Uninvited wrote: »The Uninvited wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »TriangularChicken wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Urzigurumash wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Nonsense different from nonsensical. Although my English is bad.
It means the same to say "the facts are nonsense" as "the facts are nonsensical". It is slightly more precise to say nonsensical rather than nonsense, from a certain point of view facts cannot be nonsense, but may share characteristics with nonsense, such as defying reason or logic. My point was you described what he had posted as facts, I think you meant to say they are opinions.
So you don't like Bloodspawn, but you do like the nerfs to DOTs? You want defense and offense both nerfed?
I understood you, I corrected.
I use Blood spawn myself. I think the quick accumulation of Ult is what prevents people from using the other kits they want to try. Better to use 2 times the ult than once correctly? I do not want a complete nerf to this good set, my idea was to reduce the recovery points of Ult gen.OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »6% chance to proc every 6 seconds sure if it always procs off cooldown it could be extremely strong. Now let’s consider they reduce the ultimate it grants or remove it entirely what then people will just run balorgh and 2h asylum and damage will skyrocket. Asylum 2h grants up to 15 ultimate on perfected and has no cooldown. Before you ask for a nerf to bloodspawn consider the ramifications and how players will adapt.
Good version. To be honest I'm not asking for a nerf, I just shared my observation.
If they reduce reg this set will also remain one of the best for StamDK, just the number of people will become less who use it to hit the ult 2 times in one cycle.
I against the removal of ult reg.
ok
Yes there is no difference reduce or removal... You like to joke? Let's have fun.
See how many views this topic has and how many people spoke out are all BS players. Ahahaha, I'm probably right about the BS! Fun huh?
I'll tell you a joke. I have been using Bloodspawn for over 2 years and recently (3 months ago) switched to a different monster set. The difference in ultimate generation is barely noticeable.
If it’s barely noticeable to you, then lowering the Ulti regen some should be okay with you.
No. But buffing other sets nobody barely uses would be okay with me.
@p00tx You know what's up, couldn't have said it better myself.
I’m all for buffing other sets. But there is a reason Bloodspawn has been the number 1 monster for Stamina users, and it wasn’t for the mitigation. The Ulti regen is just a bit too much.
The reason is lack of good alternatives.@Zevrro PC-EU
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✭✭Bloodspawn has been how it is for a very long time and suddenly people decide its overpowered?
It's probably one of the most balanced sets in the game.
The same could be said about many sets that were nerfed. Sets that were nerfed by repeated posts from Stamina players. In fact, posts by some of the posters in this thread, claiming that so and so was OP, and yet still wearing their Bloodspawn. Honestly, if other sets were so OP, then why weren't they wearing those other sets? They weren't. Because even in their claims, the Ulti regen from Bloodspawn is what they wanted. It allowed them quicker access to powerful offensive and defensive Ultis - skills which are the most powerful in the game.A lot of us use it on mag too (it's badass on a light armor Magplar), and the reason stam uses this primarily is not because it's overpowered, but because the other stam options are ground effect proc sets, which is trash for high mobility PvP. You need sets whose effects move with the wearer, like BS, Skoria, Balorgh, etc.
Again, I agree about having other options. Right now, many light armor wearers are wearing 1p Pirate 1p Chudan because wearing 1p of two different sets offers much needed mitigation. And it sure sounds strange to me that players would consider mix-matched pieces of monsters more powerful than a matched set.
But even Magplars are rocking Bloodspawn for the Ulti regen, not for the mitigation. Because the Ulti regen is just that good.
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✭Bloodspawn has been how it is for a very long time and suddenly people decide its overpowered?
It's probably one of the most balanced sets in the game.
The same could be said about many sets that were nerfed. Sets that were nerfed by repeated posts from Stamina players. In fact, posts by some of the posters in this thread, claiming that so and so was OP, and yet still wearing their Bloodspawn. Honestly, if other sets were so OP, then why weren't they wearing those other sets? They weren't. Because even in their claims, the Ulti regen from Bloodspawn is what they wanted. It allowed them quicker access to powerful offensive and defensive Ultis - skills which are the most powerful in the game.A lot of us use it on mag too (it's badass on a light armor Magplar), and the reason stam uses this primarily is not because it's overpowered, but because the other stam options are ground effect proc sets, which is trash for high mobility PvP. You need sets whose effects move with the wearer, like BS, Skoria, Balorgh, etc.
Again, I agree about having other options. Right now, many light armor wearers are wearing 1p Pirate 1p Chudan because wearing 1p of two different sets offers much needed mitigation. And it sure sounds strange to me that players would consider mix-matched pieces of monsters more powerful than a matched set.
But even Magplars are rocking Bloodspawn for the Ulti regen, not for the mitigation. Because the Ulti regen is just that good.
Magplars also have a strong cheap aoe ulti. Most of the other classes have ultimates that are 125+PS NA
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✭✭Bloodspawn has been how it is for a very long time and suddenly people decide its overpowered?
It's probably one of the most balanced sets in the game.
The same could be said about many sets that were nerfed. Sets that were nerfed by repeated posts from Stamina players. In fact, posts by some of the posters in this thread, claiming that so and so was OP, and yet still wearing their Bloodspawn. Honestly, if other sets were so OP, then why weren't they wearing those other sets? They weren't. Because even in their claims, the Ulti regen from Bloodspawn is what they wanted. It allowed them quicker access to powerful offensive and defensive Ultis - skills which are the most powerful in the game.A lot of us use it on mag too (it's badass on a light armor Magplar), and the reason stam uses this primarily is not because it's overpowered, but because the other stam options are ground effect proc sets, which is trash for high mobility PvP. You need sets whose effects move with the wearer, like BS, Skoria, Balorgh, etc.
Again, I agree about having other options. Right now, many light armor wearers are wearing 1p Pirate 1p Chudan because wearing 1p of two different sets offers much needed mitigation. And it sure sounds strange to me that players would consider mix-matched pieces of monsters more powerful than a matched set.
But even Magplars are rocking Bloodspawn for the Ulti regen, not for the mitigation. Because the Ulti regen is just that good.
Again, people run Bloodspawn because the alternatives suck complete ***. You don't look to increasing build options by pulling one of the last few good monster sets down into the bin juice ridden scum at the bottom of the trash with the rest of the trash sets. You increase build options by taking the trash sets out, cleaning them up, and buffing them.
Do you want to be in a game where everything is strong, and choosing what you use is difficult because everything is so good? Or do you want to be in a game where everything is hot trash, and choosing what you use is a matter of choosing the least trash option? If the latter, nerfing everything is not the answer.Edited by jcm2606 on October 30, 2019 11:14AM4 -
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✭✭Also, fun fact, I only play mag in PvP. Tried stam many times on multiple classes, only class that really stuck was stamDK, the rest didn't stick nearly as well as anything mag. So, no, this isn't me being biased by being a mean old stam who doesn't want their toys nerfed. I'm just getting real tired of seeing dickheads asking for every little thing to be nerfed.2 -
Sorbin✭✭✭✭One of the worst ideas I've ever seen in this forum. The notion that something needs to be nerfed because it's useful is a plague here.2
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✭Ahh the day they come for Bloodspawn. I knew it would arrive I just didn’t know when. I always figure that this day would herald the true beginning of the end for ESO. I think PvP in this game is almost entirely devoid of anyone who cares to learn the game anymore. It’s inundated with people who just want to be carried.
LOL, that is some top tier irony referring to "people who just want to be carried" when we are talking about an item set that passively procs off the player getting hit.
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ebix_✭✭✭✭oh no plz don't ask for more nerfs , they will just destroy it and make it trash ...
if you wanna complain about something complain about server quality and games performance , you can't enjoy even the most balanced games with 10fps2 -
Sorbin✭✭✭✭Some of these responses amaze me lol. Of course Bloodspawn is popular. It offers bonuses that are useful to every build in a sea of mediocre monster sets. I have never, ever, ever felt like a Bloodspawn proc made the difference in a fight in any sort of overbearing way. And I use Chudan for the record.0
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Guys I want to say that this topic was just trolling mainly over those who defended dots and dizzy. I wanted them to burn a little after the release of the new patch. In general, my opinion is BS is very good all BG and Non CP exists due to it. I pointed to ult reg because that's what makes this monster set so good. I want to draw the attention of developers to the fact that ult reg is something that is lacking in other monster sets that have the potential to be used on bg and in non-cp.
P. S. Guys who was agree with me thank you, pardon I not wanted to you upset, you had weighty arguments, but without BS bg and non-cp can become very bad.0 -
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✭✭OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »I shouldn't be pointing to these things with your competence, but you haven't thought that restoring 14 points of absolute ability is a big number. Taking into account the fact that already in general form there is an alignment of sets, of spells, etc
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✭✭✭✭✭OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Let's just talk without bias not about the word nerf. Someone may not understand what is happening but just hears the words nerf and he begins to panic. Someone says that there are a lot of bad sets.
Now about the data. BS can generate 28 points of ultimate ability in 15 seconds. Take Shalk Exoskeleton Set and Champion of the Hist as an example. These two sets provide Minor Heroism in battle all the time i.e. in 15 seconds it will generate 10 points of ultimate ability. We won't be able to buff these sets, Minor heroism is the mechanics of the game. These are good sets, but people will not look at these sets when they can simply increase their damage using other sets in conjunction with the BS and have a frantic regeneration of Ult points.
P. S. I just shared my outlook on things. I don’t want anyone to feel bad about it. It's just a game. My suggestion was to reduce ult points to 7. In any case, you will get an advantage in front of these two sets, you can generate 14 ult points in about 15 seconds + -.
P. P. S. I don’t want to argue anymore, and I don’t want to prove anything. I was just trying to reason with justice. Let this topic be closed.
Bloodspawn is a 6% proc chance and requires you to take damage. Hist gives minor heroism always. It’s fine to share your outlook. But your outlook is wrong and incorrectly compares a full time buff to a low proc chance.2 -
OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »I shouldn't be pointing to these things with your competence, but you haven't thought that restoring 14 points of absolute ability is a big number. Taking into account the fact that already in general form there is an alignment of sets, of spells, etc
Learn to play buddy
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OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Let's just talk without bias not about the word nerf. Someone may not understand what is happening but just hears the words nerf and he begins to panic. Someone says that there are a lot of bad sets.
Now about the data. BS can generate 28 points of ultimate ability in 15 seconds. Take Shalk Exoskeleton Set and Champion of the Hist as an example. These two sets provide Minor Heroism in battle all the time i.e. in 15 seconds it will generate 10 points of ultimate ability. We won't be able to buff these sets, Minor heroism is the mechanics of the game. These are good sets, but people will not look at these sets when they can simply increase their damage using other sets in conjunction with the BS and have a frantic regeneration of Ult points.
P. S. I just shared my outlook on things. I don’t want anyone to feel bad about it. It's just a game. My suggestion was to reduce ult points to 7. In any case, you will get an advantage in front of these two sets, you can generate 14 ult points in about 15 seconds + -.
P. P. S. I don’t want to argue anymore, and I don’t want to prove anything. I was just trying to reason with justice. Let this topic be closed.
Bloodspawn is a 6% proc chance and requires you to take damage. Hist gives minor heroism always. It’s fine to share your outlook. But your outlook is wrong and incorrectly compares a full time buff to a low proc chance.
lol you really believe in your words or is it subtle humor... It is good that you shared your impression.Edited by OrderoftheDarkness on October 31, 2019 10:35PM1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Let's just talk without bias not about the word nerf. Someone may not understand what is happening but just hears the words nerf and he begins to panic. Someone says that there are a lot of bad sets.
Now about the data. BS can generate 28 points of ultimate ability in 15 seconds. Take Shalk Exoskeleton Set and Champion of the Hist as an example. These two sets provide Minor Heroism in battle all the time i.e. in 15 seconds it will generate 10 points of ultimate ability. We won't be able to buff these sets, Minor heroism is the mechanics of the game. These are good sets, but people will not look at these sets when they can simply increase their damage using other sets in conjunction with the BS and have a frantic regeneration of Ult points.
P. S. I just shared my outlook on things. I don’t want anyone to feel bad about it. It's just a game. My suggestion was to reduce ult points to 7. In any case, you will get an advantage in front of these two sets, you can generate 14 ult points in about 15 seconds + -.
P. P. S. I don’t want to argue anymore, and I don’t want to prove anything. I was just trying to reason with justice. Let this topic be closed.
Bloodspawn is a 6% proc chance and requires you to take damage. Hist gives minor heroism always. It’s fine to share your outlook. But your outlook is wrong and incorrectly compares a full time buff to a low proc chance.
lol you really believe in your words or is it subtle humor... It is good that you shared your impression.
It’s not an impression it’s facts. Read the tool tips if you don’t believe me. What do you think is gonna happen if BS is nerfed? You’ll be able win? You think people are being carried by it? It’s never been OP. But seriously go read the tooltip description I’ll wait,0 -
OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Let's just talk without bias not about the word nerf. Someone may not understand what is happening but just hears the words nerf and he begins to panic. Someone says that there are a lot of bad sets.
Now about the data. BS can generate 28 points of ultimate ability in 15 seconds. Take Shalk Exoskeleton Set and Champion of the Hist as an example. These two sets provide Minor Heroism in battle all the time i.e. in 15 seconds it will generate 10 points of ultimate ability. We won't be able to buff these sets, Minor heroism is the mechanics of the game. These are good sets, but people will not look at these sets when they can simply increase their damage using other sets in conjunction with the BS and have a frantic regeneration of Ult points.
P. S. I just shared my outlook on things. I don’t want anyone to feel bad about it. It's just a game. My suggestion was to reduce ult points to 7. In any case, you will get an advantage in front of these two sets, you can generate 14 ult points in about 15 seconds + -.
P. P. S. I don’t want to argue anymore, and I don’t want to prove anything. I was just trying to reason with justice. Let this topic be closed.
Bloodspawn is a 6% proc chance and requires you to take damage. Hist gives minor heroism always. It’s fine to share your outlook. But your outlook is wrong and incorrectly compares a full time buff to a low proc chance.
lol you really believe in your words or is it subtle humor... It is good that you shared your impression.
It’s not an impression it’s facts. Read the tool tips if you don’t believe me. What do you think is gonna happen if BS is nerfed? You’ll be able win? You think people are being carried by it? It’s never been OP. But seriously go read the tooltip description I’ll wait,OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Guys I want to say that this topic was just trolling mainly over those who defended dots and dizzy. I wanted them to burn a little after the release of the new patch. In general, my opinion is BS is very good all BG and Non CP exists due to it. I pointed to ult reg because that's what makes this monster set so good. I want to draw the attention of developers to the fact that ult reg is something that is lacking in other monster sets that have the potential to be used on bg and in non-cp.
P. S. Guys who was agree with me thank you, pardon I not wanted to you upset, you had weighty arguments, but without BS bg and non-cp can become very bad.
I love people who pull messages out of context. The fact is that it is necessary to understand the chain of events from and to.
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The Uninvited✭✭✭✭✭
✭OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Guys I want to say that this topic was just trolling mainly over those who defended dots and dizzy. I wanted them to burn a little after the release of the new patch. In general, my opinion is BS is very good all BG and Non CP exists due to it. I pointed to ult reg because that's what makes this monster set so good. I want to draw the attention of developers to the fact that ult reg is something that is lacking in other monster sets that have the potential to be used on bg and in non-cp.
P. S. Guys who was agree with me thank you, pardon I not wanted to you upset, you had weighty arguments, but without BS bg and non-cp can become very bad.
Should have seen it coming. Well played!Pandora's Promise (rip) | LND | Pactriotic | IKnowWhatUDidLastWinter's | The Uninvited |
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Vapirko✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Let's just talk without bias not about the word nerf. Someone may not understand what is happening but just hears the words nerf and he begins to panic. Someone says that there are a lot of bad sets.
Now about the data. BS can generate 28 points of ultimate ability in 15 seconds. Take Shalk Exoskeleton Set and Champion of the Hist as an example. These two sets provide Minor Heroism in battle all the time i.e. in 15 seconds it will generate 10 points of ultimate ability. We won't be able to buff these sets, Minor heroism is the mechanics of the game. These are good sets, but people will not look at these sets when they can simply increase their damage using other sets in conjunction with the BS and have a frantic regeneration of Ult points.
P. S. I just shared my outlook on things. I don’t want anyone to feel bad about it. It's just a game. My suggestion was to reduce ult points to 7. In any case, you will get an advantage in front of these two sets, you can generate 14 ult points in about 15 seconds + -.
P. P. S. I don’t want to argue anymore, and I don’t want to prove anything. I was just trying to reason with justice. Let this topic be closed.
Bloodspawn is a 6% proc chance and requires you to take damage. Hist gives minor heroism always. It’s fine to share your outlook. But your outlook is wrong and incorrectly compares a full time buff to a low proc chance.
lol you really believe in your words or is it subtle humor... It is good that you shared your impression.
It’s not an impression it’s facts. Read the tool tips if you don’t believe me. What do you think is gonna happen if BS is nerfed? You’ll be able win? You think people are being carried by it? It’s never been OP. But seriously go read the tooltip description I’ll wait,OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Guys I want to say that this topic was just trolling mainly over those who defended dots and dizzy. I wanted them to burn a little after the release of the new patch. In general, my opinion is BS is very good all BG and Non CP exists due to it. I pointed to ult reg because that's what makes this monster set so good. I want to draw the attention of developers to the fact that ult reg is something that is lacking in other monster sets that have the potential to be used on bg and in non-cp.
P. S. Guys who was agree with me thank you, pardon I not wanted to you upset, you had weighty arguments, but without BS bg and non-cp can become very bad.
I love people who pull messages out of context.. The fact is that it is necessary to understand the chain of events from and to.
Sorry but you’re comparing different effects with different causes and you’re acting like a d bag when people present you with the facts. For someone who keeps trying to sound informed and logical you’re laughably ignoring what’s right in front of you. But honestly go ahead and get BS nerfed. This game has already been so dumbed down by people like you. What’s one more good set.1 -
OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Let's just talk without bias not about the word nerf. Someone may not understand what is happening but just hears the words nerf and he begins to panic. Someone says that there are a lot of bad sets.
Now about the data. BS can generate 28 points of ultimate ability in 15 seconds. Take Shalk Exoskeleton Set and Champion of the Hist as an example. These two sets provide Minor Heroism in battle all the time i.e. in 15 seconds it will generate 10 points of ultimate ability. We won't be able to buff these sets, Minor heroism is the mechanics of the game. These are good sets, but people will not look at these sets when they can simply increase their damage using other sets in conjunction with the BS and have a frantic regeneration of Ult points.
P. S. I just shared my outlook on things. I don’t want anyone to feel bad about it. It's just a game. My suggestion was to reduce ult points to 7. In any case, you will get an advantage in front of these two sets, you can generate 14 ult points in about 15 seconds + -.
P. P. S. I don’t want to argue anymore, and I don’t want to prove anything. I was just trying to reason with justice. Let this topic be closed.
Bloodspawn is a 6% proc chance and requires you to take damage. Hist gives minor heroism always. It’s fine to share your outlook. But your outlook is wrong and incorrectly compares a full time buff to a low proc chance.
lol you really believe in your words or is it subtle humor... It is good that you shared your impression.
It’s not an impression it’s facts. Read the tool tips if you don’t believe me. What do you think is gonna happen if BS is nerfed? You’ll be able win? You think people are being carried by it? It’s never been OP. But seriously go read the tooltip description I’ll wait,OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Guys I want to say that this topic was just trolling mainly over those who defended dots and dizzy. I wanted them to burn a little after the release of the new patch. In general, my opinion is BS is very good all BG and Non CP exists due to it. I pointed to ult reg because that's what makes this monster set so good. I want to draw the attention of developers to the fact that ult reg is something that is lacking in other monster sets that have the potential to be used on bg and in non-cp.
P. S. Guys who was agree with me thank you, pardon I not wanted to you upset, you had weighty arguments, but without BS bg and non-cp can become very bad.
I love people who pull messages out of context.. The fact is that it is necessary to understand the chain of events from and to.
Sorry but you’re comparing different effects with different causes and you’re acting like a d bag when people present you with the facts. For someone who keeps trying to sound informed and logical you’re laughably ignoring what’s right in front of you. But honestly go ahead and get BS nerfed. This game has already been so dumbed down by people like you. What’s one more good set.
These kits could not be compared lol. I myself use BS on BG and Non CP, maybe you will feel calmer. Yes, and with Hist you were mistaken, it does not work all the time, only in battle. We can say that the balance revolves around BS in Non CP. So let's say extra ults help fight the healing creep and power creep.
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✭✭OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Let's just talk without bias not about the word nerf. Someone may not understand what is happening but just hears the words nerf and he begins to panic. Someone says that there are a lot of bad sets.
Now about the data. BS can generate 28 points of ultimate ability in 15 seconds. Take Shalk Exoskeleton Set and Champion of the Hist as an example. These two sets provide Minor Heroism in battle all the time i.e. in 15 seconds it will generate 10 points of ultimate ability. We won't be able to buff these sets, Minor heroism is the mechanics of the game. These are good sets, but people will not look at these sets when they can simply increase their damage using other sets in conjunction with the BS and have a frantic regeneration of Ult points.
P. S. I just shared my outlook on things. I don’t want anyone to feel bad about it. It's just a game. My suggestion was to reduce ult points to 7. In any case, you will get an advantage in front of these two sets, you can generate 14 ult points in about 15 seconds + -.
P. P. S. I don’t want to argue anymore, and I don’t want to prove anything. I was just trying to reason with justice. Let this topic be closed.
Bloodspawn is a 6% proc chance and requires you to take damage. Hist gives minor heroism always. It’s fine to share your outlook. But your outlook is wrong and incorrectly compares a full time buff to a low proc chance.
lol you really believe in your words or is it subtle humor... It is good that you shared your impression.
It’s not an impression it’s facts. Read the tool tips if you don’t believe me. What do you think is gonna happen if BS is nerfed? You’ll be able win? You think people are being carried by it? It’s never been OP. But seriously go read the tooltip description I’ll wait,OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Guys I want to say that this topic was just trolling mainly over those who defended dots and dizzy. I wanted them to burn a little after the release of the new patch. In general, my opinion is BS is very good all BG and Non CP exists due to it. I pointed to ult reg because that's what makes this monster set so good. I want to draw the attention of developers to the fact that ult reg is something that is lacking in other monster sets that have the potential to be used on bg and in non-cp.
P. S. Guys who was agree with me thank you, pardon I not wanted to you upset, you had weighty arguments, but without BS bg and non-cp can become very bad.
I love people who pull messages out of context.. The fact is that it is necessary to understand the chain of events from and to.
Sorry but you’re comparing different effects with different causes and you’re acting like a d bag when people present you with the facts. For someone who keeps trying to sound informed and logical you’re laughably ignoring what’s right in front of you. But honestly go ahead and get BS nerfed. This game has already been so dumbed down by people like you. What’s one more good set.
Wow! Calling someone a d bag when you come across as one yourself.1 -
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✭OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Let's just talk without bias not about the word nerf. Someone may not understand what is happening but just hears the words nerf and he begins to panic. Someone says that there are a lot of bad sets.
Now about the data. BS can generate 28 points of ultimate ability in 15 seconds. Take Shalk Exoskeleton Set and Champion of the Hist as an example. These two sets provide Minor Heroism in battle all the time i.e. in 15 seconds it will generate 10 points of ultimate ability. We won't be able to buff these sets, Minor heroism is the mechanics of the game. These are good sets, but people will not look at these sets when they can simply increase their damage using other sets in conjunction with the BS and have a frantic regeneration of Ult points.
P. S. I just shared my outlook on things. I don’t want anyone to feel bad about it. It's just a game. My suggestion was to reduce ult points to 7. In any case, you will get an advantage in front of these two sets, you can generate 14 ult points in about 15 seconds + -.
P. P. S. I don’t want to argue anymore, and I don’t want to prove anything. I was just trying to reason with justice. Let this topic be closed.
Bloodspawn is a 6% proc chance and requires you to take damage. Hist gives minor heroism always. It’s fine to share your outlook. But your outlook is wrong and incorrectly compares a full time buff to a low proc chance.
lol you really believe in your words or is it subtle humor... It is good that you shared your impression.
It’s not an impression it’s facts. Read the tool tips if you don’t believe me. What do you think is gonna happen if BS is nerfed? You’ll be able win? You think people are being carried by it? It’s never been OP. But seriously go read the tooltip description I’ll wait,OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Guys I want to say that this topic was just trolling mainly over those who defended dots and dizzy. I wanted them to burn a little after the release of the new patch. In general, my opinion is BS is very good all BG and Non CP exists due to it. I pointed to ult reg because that's what makes this monster set so good. I want to draw the attention of developers to the fact that ult reg is something that is lacking in other monster sets that have the potential to be used on bg and in non-cp.
P. S. Guys who was agree with me thank you, pardon I not wanted to you upset, you had weighty arguments, but without BS bg and non-cp can become very bad.
I love people who pull messages out of context.. The fact is that it is necessary to understand the chain of events from and to.
Sorry but you’re comparing different effects with different causes and you’re acting like a d bag when people present you with the facts. For someone who keeps trying to sound informed and logical you’re laughably ignoring what’s right in front of you. But honestly go ahead and get BS nerfed. This game has already been so dumbed down by people like you. What’s one more good set.
These kits could not be compared lol. I myself use BS on BG and Non CP, maybe you will feel calmer. Yes, and with Hist you were mistaken, it does not work all the time, only in battle. We can say that the balance revolves around BS in Non CP. So let's say extra ults help fight the healing creep and power creep.
Yes Hist is only when in combat, but its always active when in combat when BS has a 6% chance when you take damage. With hist you can light attack and dodge all attacks and still get the ultimate.PS NA
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✭✭Bloodspawn is a great set, but it honestly could lose a bit of its Ulti regen. 14 ulti every 6 seconds is quite large. It's 3.5 x more than minor heroism over the same time. The mitigation it gives is just a bonus.
Just light attacking, you can have Dawnbreaker (125 ulti) up every 42 seconds. But by wearing Bloodspawn, you can have that up in 24 seconds.
I understand that you must take dmg for bloodspawn to proc, but in general, when are you not taking dmg??1 -
jadarock✭✭✭✭✭OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Urzigurumash wrote: »OrderoftheDarkness wrote: »Nonsense different from nonsensical. Although my English is bad.
It means the same to say "the facts are nonsense" as "the facts are nonsensical". It is slightly more precise to say nonsensical rather than nonsense, from a certain point of view facts cannot be nonsense, but may share characteristics with nonsense, such as defying reason or logic. My point was you described what he had posted as facts, I think you meant to say they are opinions.
So you don't like Bloodspawn, but you do like the nerfs to DOTs? You want defense and offense both nerfed?
I understood you, I corrected.
I use Blood spawn myself. I think the quick accumulation of Ult is what prevents people from using the other kits they want to try. Better to use 2 times the ult than once correctly? I do not want a complete nerf to this good set, my idea was to reduce the recovery points of Ult gen.
Nonononono. One last time, for the kids in the back who didn't hear the first time...NO.
You do NOT make other sets more attractive by nerfing a well-functioning set into trash. That's like someone wanting to be taller, so they suggest cutting off the legs of all tall people below the knees. That is seriously the most twisted logic I've ever seen. This (Bloodspawn) is what a monster set should look like, and it should be used as a template for other useful sets. The rest of them have been slowly ground into garbage now, barring a few that managed to escape the whine train and the resultant nerf hammer. People have got to start thinking of the widespread ramifications of their suggestions before throwing them out there for the obviously befuddled combat devs to potentially see. Those guys are obviously not firing on all cylinders, and now you're just feeding them more bad ideas.
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BattleAxe✭✭✭✭✭Bloodspawn is a great set, but it honestly could lose a bit of its Ulti regen. 14 ulti every 6 seconds is quite large. It's 3.5 x more than minor heroism over the same time. The mitigation it gives is just a bonus.
Just light attacking, you can have Dawnbreaker (125 ulti) up every 42 seconds. But by wearing Bloodspawn, you can have that up in 24 seconds.
I understand that you must take dmg for bloodspawn to proc, but in general, when are you not taking dmg??
U do understand it’s a 6% chance to proc every 6 seconds so unless it procs off cooldown every time it ends up being weaker than minor heroism.Edited by BattleAxe on November 1, 2019 12:10AM0 -
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✭✭Bloodspawn is a great set, but it honestly could lose a bit of its Ulti regen. 14 ulti every 6 seconds is quite large. It's 3.5 x more than minor heroism over the same time. The mitigation it gives is just a bonus.
Just light attacking, you can have Dawnbreaker (125 ulti) up every 42 seconds. But by wearing Bloodspawn, you can have that up in 24 seconds.
I understand that you must take dmg for bloodspawn to proc, but in general, when are you not taking dmg??
U do understand it’s a 6% chance to proc every 6 seconds so unless it procs off cooldown every time it ends up being weaker than minor heroism.
Yep, sure do. But in combat, with everything hitting you, when is it not off cooldown??1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Ahh the day they come for Bloodspawn. I knew it would arrive I just didn’t know when. I always figure that this day would herald the true beginning of the end for ESO. I think PvP in this game is almost entirely devoid of anyone who cares to learn the game anymore. It’s inundated with people who just want to be carried.
LOL, that is some top tier irony referring to "people who just want to be carried" when we are talking about an item set that passively procs off the player getting hit.
You think people are carried by Bloodspawn? This community is way worse off than I thought.2 -
BattleAxe✭✭✭✭✭Bloodspawn is a great set, but it honestly could lose a bit of its Ulti regen. 14 ulti every 6 seconds is quite large. It's 3.5 x more than minor heroism over the same time. The mitigation it gives is just a bonus.
Just light attacking, you can have Dawnbreaker (125 ulti) up every 42 seconds. But by wearing Bloodspawn, you can have that up in 24 seconds.
I understand that you must take dmg for bloodspawn to proc, but in general, when are you not taking dmg??
U do understand it’s a 6% chance to proc every 6 seconds so unless it procs off cooldown every time it ends up being weaker than minor heroism.
Yep, sure do. But in combat, with everything hitting you, when is it not off cooldown??
That is not always the case because reality is everything isn’t always hitting you. Also you realize nerfing a set doesn’t make other lesser options more appealing. Likely as I stated before BS gets nerfed everyone moves to asylum 2h with balorgh monster set.1