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Disease status effect stealth nerf?
glavius
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Buffs and Debuffs
Diseased: Fixed an issue where this status effect was reporting that it applied Major Defile, when it actually applied Minor Defile.
Disease status effect has always applied major defile. So either this is a typo by a dev that doesn't know mechanic, or a nerf.
Diseased: Fixed an issue where this status effect was reporting that it applied Major Defile, when it actually applied Minor Defile.
Disease status effect has always applied major defile. So either this is a typo by a dev that doesn't know mechanic, or a nerf.
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Tevalaur✭✭✭✭✭@glavius Good catch!
From the 3.1.6 PC/Mac Patch Notes (August, 2017 - the last time Diseased status was officially commented upon it seems)
"Fixed an issue where the Diseased status effect was not applying Major Defile."
You're certainly correct that it was described (not just in the tooltip) as providing MAJOR Defile. Let's hope someone officially comments on this. @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_BrianWheelerEdited by Tevalaur on September 19, 2019 9:52PM┌───────────────────────────────┐Author of Sunshine Daydream's Guide to Crafting└───────────────────────────────┘Is Uncle John's band calling you? Do you daydream about Sugar Magnolias? Is your favorite sunflower a China Cat? Tired of Truckin' alone to Terrapin Station? If so, share some Space with other hippies & deadheads in the guild Sunshine Daydream! Send a message in game (PC-NA) to Kaibeth for your invitation.5 -
OG_Kaveman✭✭✭✭✭i read that as they are actually making it apply the major defile it was supposed to be, not the way you are reading it. and disease has not "always" been major, when the game first came out, it was minor. for a long time actually, like for at least 2 years.1 -
glavius✭✭✭✭✭OG_Kaveman wrote: »i read that as they are actually making it apply the major defile it was supposed to be, not the way you are reading it. and disease has not "always" been major, when the game first came out, it was minor. for a long time actually, like for at least 2 years.
Was always major tested like 4 years ago.0 -
BlackMadara✭✭✭✭All proc status effects like that are minor. When testing, did you test the actual healing, or just what was stated on character sheet?0
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OG_Kaveman✭✭✭✭✭OG_Kaveman wrote: »i read that as they are actually making it apply the major defile it was supposed to be, not the way you are reading it. and disease has not "always" been major, when the game first came out, it was minor. for a long time actually, like for at least 2 years.
Was always major tested like 4 years ago.
i cant find any evidence that indicates that diseased was not major defile after the revamp to status effect after January 2017, when they changed concussed and chilled. but it did lower health regen by 50%, that was not named, as well before that.
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glavius✭✭✭✭✭BlackMadara wrote: »All proc status effects like that are minor. When testing, did you test the actual healing, or just what was stated on character sheet?
Actual healing. Was also back then I noticed bosmer and argonians were immune. The effect lasted 8 seconds before last revamp of status effects.0 -
SodanTok✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Was Major Defile for long time and confirmed several times (there are literally eso live streams somewhere in 2017) by devs that its supposed to be this way.
Cant test the effect of it ingame but it is being reported as Minor Defile by logging tools. If this was balance change (its possible) it would be fair to state "we changed" instead of "oh that thing that was major defile? it was just error"1 -
Neoauspex✭✭✭✭✭
✭In the last ESO Live though @ZOS_Gilliam said it was minor defile. I even questioned it in the chat but it scrolled by in a millisecond of course.1 -
Nordic__Knights✭✭✭✭✭
✭As a stamina main of five years that runs disease all the time it has always been major if its been changed then it was a sleight-of-hand that nobody knew about
The only thing I remember being major defile removed from to minor was snipeEdited by Nordic__Knights on September 20, 2019 9:51PM1 -
Cinbri✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Long time ago it was major defile but then it was stealth changed into minor defile (just like all status effect are minor), however buff tracker saying that it major. They fixed this UI bug now.1 -
Nordic__Knights✭✭✭✭✭
✭Long time ago it was major defile but then it was stealth changed into minor defile (just like all status effect are minor), however buff tracker saying that it major. They fixed this UI bug now.
Can you link where that change was made at please or was there never an posting for it till now where someone stumbled upon it1 -
glavius✭✭✭✭✭I'm 99% sure I tested the Diseased status effect like 4-5 months ago, and that it was applying major defile then.0
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glavius✭✭✭✭✭Can indeed confirm that on live it only procs minor defile. Not sure when they changed it.
This thread also suggests that it was changed recently:
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Nerftheforums✭✭✭✭✭
✭"Fixed an issue" is the new "this is a buff if..". They did the same for ambush, shields, and a lot of other things. Or they simply don't know their game, which is more probable tbh.1 -
MentalxHammer✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lol the dev's dont know and the players dont know, who's got defile, where is the defile even at? Some wonder if the defile will ever be minorly as major as it has possibly been in the past!0 -
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✭perfectly logical to be minor defile, you want 4 seconds of Major defile every 5 seconds ?? Get real pls.0 -
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✭✭perfectly logical to be minor defile, you want 4 seconds of Major defile every 5 seconds ?? Get real pls.
Not unrealistic at all since enchantments only have 20% chance to proc status effects every 4 seconds.Even if you use the Charged trait you'll have to sacrifice raw stats and only then you can have about 65-70% chance to proc every 4 seconds.
Even then it doesnt work against bosmers and argoniansIf you want me to reply to your comment type @Ankael07 in it.0 -
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Even then it doesnt work against bosmers and argonians
Sadly Bosmer lost its Disease immunity racial on the previous racial update. Only Argonians have Disease status immunity anymore.
Bosmer has Poisoned immunity, Argonian lost that.. Because who cares about the lore and years of tradition.
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✭✭Taking stealth away from the Bosmer is like taking magic away from the Altmer, making Nords allergic to mead, or making Orcs pretty.0 -
Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Slight necro but relevant question for @Ankael07 @glavius did you ever get to the bottom of this?
Is Disease enchant status effect now only minor defile on live, and did they ever patch note this change?Xbox One | EU | EP
Beardimus : VR16 Dunmer MagSorc [RIP MagDW 2015-2018]
Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-2018 & Sheogorath 05-2019
1st Emperor of RavenwatchAlts - - for the Lolz
Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
Orcimus : Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master
Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
Fighting with [PvP] : The Undaunted Wolves
Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | FourSquareTraders
Xbox One | NA | EP
Bëardimus : L43 Dunmer Magsorc / BG
Heals-With-Pets : VR16 Argonian Sorc PvP / BG Healer
Nordimus : VR16 Stamsorc
Beardimus le 13iem : L30 Dunmer Magsorc Icereach0 -
Ankael07✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭@Beardimus Its still minor defile. Patch notes werent clear on whether it should be major or notIf you want me to reply to your comment type @Ankael07 in it.0 -
Beardimus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@Beardimus Its still minor defile. Patch notes werent clear on whether it should be major or not
Damn. That's uncool. So 15%
Do you know how long status effect is for, is it 3 seconds?
Feels way less worth it and certainly not worth bothering with charged for
Does it say Minor on the affected persons charctor screen is that what they pertained to fix?Xbox One | EU | EP
Beardimus : VR16 Dunmer MagSorc [RIP MagDW 2015-2018]
Emperor of Sotha Sil 02-2018 & Sheogorath 05-2019
1st Emperor of RavenwatchAlts - - for the Lolz
Archimus : Bosmer Thief / Archer / Werewolf
Orcimus : Fat drunk Orc battlefield 1st aider
Scalimus - Argonian Sorc Healer / Pet master
Fighting small scale with : The SAXON Guild
Fighting with [PvP] : The Undaunted Wolves
Trading Guilds : TradersOfNirn | FourSquareTraders
Xbox One | NA | EP
Bëardimus : L43 Dunmer Magsorc / BG
Heals-With-Pets : VR16 Argonian Sorc PvP / BG Healer
Nordimus : VR16 Stamsorc
Beardimus le 13iem : L30 Dunmer Magsorc Icereach0 -
OG_Kaveman✭✭✭✭✭@Beardimus Its still minor defile. Patch notes werent clear on whether it should be major or not
Damn. That's uncool. So 15%
Do you know how long status effect is for, is it 3 seconds?
Feels way less worth it and certainly not worth bothering with charged for
Does it say Minor on the affected persons charctor screen is that what they pertained to fix?
status effects are 4 seconds, except for poisoned, which is 6. do you have another source of the minor debuff?0 -
WeylandLabs✭✭✭✭✭After 6 months I'm back is disease status effect working correctly for major defile and not minor ?
I hate being on console but until I find out how much AMDs new ray tracing gpu is I'm hindered.Edited by WeylandLabs on January 17, 2020 1:51AM0
