Disease status effect stealth nerf?

WeylandLabs · January 2020

Last time I played ... my old build was bugged, meaning the disease status effect was showing major but was giving only minor. So I'd have 2 indicators of 1 major 1 minor. The affliction set is and supposed to give a small amount of disease damage and also proc minor defile. The status effect from disease is supposed to proc major defile, last time I tested it was showing both debuffs but only giving minor.

I was reading somewhere that they fixed it... is that true or not ?

Tevalaur · January 2020

Sorry to say that when they "fixed" it they made Disease Status both say and do Minor Defile, so they didn't actually fix it in the way that you'd hoped and was proclaimed to be their intention with it in the past.

WeylandLabs · January 2020

Tevalaur wrote: »

Sorry to say that when they "fixed" it they made it both say and do Minor Defile, so they didn't actually fix it in the way that you'd hoped and was proclaimed to be their intention with it in the past.

I proclaimed it in the past becuase in thoery I am correct. That's why they call it thoerycrafting. 😂 And the way I hoped is the correct way per patch notes. If Zos tells you this set is going to do this and give this status effect and you test it. Yet you find its bugged it's not what I hoped, in fact its finding what other people fail to test in there creative capacity.

Beardimus · January 2020

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Ankael07 wrote: »

@Beardimus Its still minor defile. Patch notes werent clear on whether it should be major or not

Damn. That's uncool. So 15%

Do you know how long status effect is for, is it 3 seconds?

Feels way less worth it and certainly not worth bothering with charged for

Does it say Minor on the affected persons charctor screen is that what they pertained to fix?

status effects are 4 seconds, except for poisoned, which is 6. do you have another source of the minor debuff?

Cheers for the correction on timing.

In terms of debuff it's all via this thread / the vague comment in patch notes.

Even @Alcast has major defile on his Website, but from what folks have tested it's minor since the change.

WeylandLabs · January 2020

Beardimus wrote: »

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Ankael07 wrote: »

@Beardimus Its still minor defile. Patch notes werent clear on whether it should be major or not

Damn. That's uncool. So 15%

Do you know how long status effect is for, is it 3 seconds?

Feels way less worth it and certainly not worth bothering with charged for

Does it say Minor on the affected persons charctor screen is that what they pertained to fix?

status effects are 4 seconds, except for poisoned, which is 6. do you have another source of the minor debuff?

Cheers for the correction on timing.

In terms of debuff it's all via this thread / the vague comment in patch notes.

Even @Alcast has major defile on his Website, but from what folks have tested it's minor since the change.

Yes its minor as tested still, can you or anyone find any language on the forums to support this ?

Last time I tested was giving both indicators for both major and minor. But didnt stack both back then, I test now my debuff uptime is higher, but now it's just showing a [ ? ] symbol like the game doesn't know what to do.

I think broke another devs code in thoerycrafting ? 😂

Beardimus · January 2020

Shokasegambit1 wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

OG_Kaveman wrote: »

Beardimus wrote: »

Ankael07 wrote: »

@Beardimus Its still minor defile. Patch notes werent clear on whether it should be major or not

Damn. That's uncool. So 15%

Do you know how long status effect is for, is it 3 seconds?

Feels way less worth it and certainly not worth bothering with charged for

Does it say Minor on the affected persons charctor screen is that what they pertained to fix?

status effects are 4 seconds, except for poisoned, which is 6. do you have another source of the minor debuff?

Cheers for the correction on timing.

In terms of debuff it's all via this thread / the vague comment in patch notes.

Even @Alcast has major defile on his Website, but from what folks have tested it's minor since the change.

Yes its minor as tested still, can you or anyone find any language on the forums to support this ?

Last time I tested was giving both indicators for both major and minor. But didnt stack both back then, I test now my debuff uptime is higher, but now it's just showing a [ ? ] symbol like the game doesn't know what to do.

I think broke another devs code in thoerycrafting ? 😂

The only official thing is the line the OP posted here.

Would be cool to get some clarity on those patch notes @ZOS_GinaBruno / @ZOS_BillE ?

WeylandLabs · January 2020

Jesus christ ! Took me an an hour but found it...

Looks like ZOS deleted the old post of "Status effects and you" ( updated ) 2017 version. The 2015 is the only one that's left.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/4427604

I was telling @Gilliamtherogue at that on console it was still giving minor. But if you scroll down its brighter than day the notes said Major not Minor.

And that was a change Eric Wrobel made to console after the status effects changes from HOTR dlc in 2017 to PC but failed to put the disease part in the combat update.

But yah ... ZOS needs to revert this change back becuase that's maybe why there is a tank meta. And healing seems seems godley now, it won't fix it all but it's the right step in the direction.

Alcast · January 2020

I hate this status effect. I am sure I changed that info like 4 times in the last 2 years because someone keeps changing/ flipping the effect in the game by accident.

It is supposed to be MINOR DEFILE.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/497974/pc-mac-patch-notes-v5-2-5-dragonhold-update-24

If it still shows Major Defile in the game somewhere, please let me know here or via dm

FeaR Turbo · January 2020

Concussion, Chilled and Disease all proc the Minor effect.
Burning, Concussion, Chilled, Diseased and Burning can all proc on Shielded Enemies.
Certain races are immune to X effect and increasing your resistance to an element makes you immune to the % chance of being afflicted by it.

WeylandLabs · January 2020

Alcast wrote: »

I hate this status effect. I am sure I changed that info like 4 times in the last 2 years because someone keeps changing/ flipping the effect in the game by accident.

It is supposed to be MINOR DEFILE.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/497974/pc-mac-patch-notes-v5-2-5-dragonhold-update-24

If it still shows Major Defile in the game somewhere, please let me know here or via dm

I understand it says that but in update 24, what I'm saying is that there was an old post called Status effects and you ( updated version 2017 ) for HOTR in that description it stated what disease status effect has done for 3 years.

I made builds that has that build into it, reason why I know its Major Defile and not Minor defile. And as i showed in the previous thread, it was Major as a source of proof.

So somewhere in the last 6 months from me not playing the game. One person decided to change this, delete a thread post and revert this back to the 2014/15 version.

This status effect has never overpreformed and as far as I know I'm the only person that tried to creatively use it in pvp to kill people. Also maybe another reason why there is such a problem in healing. Too many sources of healing and not enough defiles or way to counter.

And I was unaware the good folks at ZOS keeps changing this around status effect around w/o a heads up or a post about why and reasoning. @alcast and @FeaR Turbo your'e both OG,s in the community, but if there changing Wrobels old stuff why isn't it being known ? And who's to say other things hasn't changed also.... is nobody is testing anymore ?

I'm spending my last days on console and built my TR/2080ti pc, to meet every standard in performance and graphics for the next 5 years hopefully. I look forward to saving more money irl playing eso on PCNA where I can test everything properly. And try to be an asset to the community like you both have been.

Beardimus · January 2020

Alcast wrote: »

I hate this status effect. I am sure I changed that info like 4 times in the last 2 years because someone keeps changing/ flipping the effect in the game by accident.

It is supposed to be MINOR DEFILE.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/497974/pc-mac-patch-notes-v5-2-5-dragonhold-update-24

If it still shows Major Defile in the game somewhere, please let me know here or via dm

Appriciate you looking into / confirming this Alcast TY