Morgha_Kul wrote: »

Ya, the tail swipe I usually see coming, as with most of the attacks, but there's a few that you either don't have time to avoid, or can't avoid (such as the quick fireballs he spits out that track you, and do 10s of thousands of damage per pulse, unblockable, unsoakable and impossible to heal through). Attacks that are guaranteed to kill you no matter what you do are not any fun because there's no game involved in trying to survive it.

Morgha_Kul wrote: »

So, since the dragons first appeared, I've been out there tanking them with comparatively little difficulty. Even my squishier characters have been able to take a hit and recover from it. However, over the last couple of nights, I've seen some strange things.

It actually happened a few weeks ago, but I didn't really pay attention to it until last night, when my Necromancer was hit by a tail swipe for nearly a million damage. I was kind of shocked to see over 900k damage in a single hit, but chalked it up to her being only L13 and not wearing any armour (which I had removed and forgot to put back on).

Tonight, my main tanky character was tanking a dragon in Elsweyr and doing his usual bit of taunting it with Ransack while maintaining Defensive Stance and healing as needed. The dragon reared up his head to do his Chomp attack, so I refreshed Defensive Stance and blocked. When it hit me, it did 315k damage. Of course, that's a oneshot kill, regardless of any defensive measures I took. Yes, I could have dodged, but I wear Thunderbug armour which requires getting hit to activate a lightning strike, and I've easily tanked the Chomp attack many times... even many times in THAT fight.

So what is going on? Is there a bug?

Jeremy wrote: »

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Morgha_Kul wrote: »

So, since the dragons first appeared, I've been out there tanking them with comparatively little difficulty. Even my squishier characters have been able to take a hit and recover from it. However, over the last couple of nights, I've seen some strange things.

It actually happened a few weeks ago, but I didn't really pay attention to it until last night, when my Necromancer was hit by a tail swipe for nearly a million damage. I was kind of shocked to see over 900k damage in a single hit, but chalked it up to her being only L13 and not wearing any armour (which I had removed and forgot to put back on).

Tonight, my main tanky character was tanking a dragon in Elsweyr and doing his usual bit of taunting it with Ransack while maintaining Defensive Stance and healing as needed. The dragon reared up his head to do his Chomp attack, so I refreshed Defensive Stance and blocked. When it hit me, it did 315k damage. Of course, that's a oneshot kill, regardless of any defensive measures I took. Yes, I could have dodged, but I wear Thunderbug armour which requires getting hit to activate a lightning strike, and I've easily tanked the Chomp attack many times... even many times in THAT fight.

So what is going on? Is there a bug?

This has happened to me twice. I'm just guessing - but I think it may have something to do with standing behind the dragon. It stopped happening to me once I started making an effort to stay toward its front while tanking. This could just be a coincidence, though.

starkerealm wrote: »

Morgha_Kul wrote: »

Jeremy wrote: »

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Morgha_Kul wrote: »

So, since the dragons first appeared, I've been out there tanking them with comparatively little difficulty. Even my squishier characters have been able to take a hit and recover from it. However, over the last couple of nights, I've seen some strange things.

It actually happened a few weeks ago, but I didn't really pay attention to it until last night, when my Necromancer was hit by a tail swipe for nearly a million damage. I was kind of shocked to see over 900k damage in a single hit, but chalked it up to her being only L13 and not wearing any armour (which I had removed and forgot to put back on).

Tonight, my main tanky character was tanking a dragon in Elsweyr and doing his usual bit of taunting it with Ransack while maintaining Defensive Stance and healing as needed. The dragon reared up his head to do his Chomp attack, so I refreshed Defensive Stance and blocked. When it hit me, it did 315k damage. Of course, that's a oneshot kill, regardless of any defensive measures I took. Yes, I could have dodged, but I wear Thunderbug armour which requires getting hit to activate a lightning strike, and I've easily tanked the Chomp attack many times... even many times in THAT fight.

So what is going on? Is there a bug?

This has happened to me twice. I'm just guessing - but I think it may have something to do with standing behind the dragon. It stopped happening to me once I started making an effort to stay toward its front while tanking. This could just be a coincidence, though.

Heh, there was one time there was some kind of asynchrony with the server, when the dragon did Fus Ro Dah while I was behind him... or at least I thought I was. The server thought he was facing me, so what I saw was the Fart of Doom.

As for the actual occasions, I've had this happen, regardless of where I'm standing. In front, beside, whatever, it makes no difference.

Dragon flatulence is no joke.

FierceSam wrote: »

Untelegraphed tail swipes, wing swipes that extend for 180 degrees and long distances and headbutts that insta kill make these fights no fun

AcadianPaladin wrote: »

My main is a healer and, after fighting a score or so of dragons has deemed them as BS/no fun and therefore ignores them now. Here's why:

1. No notice one shot mechanics render healers worthless so why be there if mechanics prevent doing your job?
2. DDs tend to favor max range and arraying all the way around the dragon for these fights. I don't blame them at all for using tactics that help keep them alive but that means often the one taking healable damage is well beyond 28m away from my healer and she can't respond.

When healing gets frustrating or impossible, my healer simply boycotts the content. That includes plenty of DLC dungeons as well as dragons.

Rain_Greyraven wrote: »

Yep somethings strange

They always appear in the same spot and are basically loot pinatas not one ounce of dynamic game play.

Very very wrong.


https://youtube.com/watch?v=mAZDHrCObMs

Jhalin wrote: »

Anyron wrote: »

Benzux wrote: »

Grianasteri wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Grianasteri wrote: »

I have not noted the numbers as you have, but I have noticed that big hits that I have been able to block in the past, have sometimes been one hitting me.

Its like the Dragon gets enraged and if you stand too close decides, enough is enough, your going down.

Personally I do not mind too much, I think the Dragons are too easy and could do with a bit of a buff.

Again.. sure during the event when there are army of peeps camped out to take on a dragon or world bosses. Try taking on a dragon by just a few peeps or your lonesome, and see how you can boast how easy things are. Now that the event is over and the hoard of peeps are not camping out, and you only have like 4-5 peeps, the dragon is a challenge. Plus, being able to rez on the spot does make thing easier. Maybe ZOS needs to make it where in the likes of world boss pits and dragons that you need another to rez you like in dungeons.

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I have 2 manned the Wyverns. My friend has soloed them.

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Please don't start this again. The whole "hurr durr wyverns not dragons ecksdee" argument lived and died years ago - nearly 8 years, to be precise.
No matter the amount of limbs or other appendages, they are Dragons within the Elder Scrolls universe. Nothing else needs to be said about this.

like it or not but they are different kind. it may be in elderscrolls lore as dragons, but it changes nothing . wolf and dog isnt same, horse and zebra isnt same too.

Wyverns and European dragons are both dragons, just as a wolf and a domestic dog breed are both canines, and just as a horse and a zebra are both equines.

Anyron wrote: »

Jhalin wrote: »

Anyron wrote: »

Benzux wrote: »

Grianasteri wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Grianasteri wrote: »

I have not noted the numbers as you have, but I have noticed that big hits that I have been able to block in the past, have sometimes been one hitting me.

Its like the Dragon gets enraged and if you stand too close decides, enough is enough, your going down.

Personally I do not mind too much, I think the Dragons are too easy and could do with a bit of a buff.

Again.. sure during the event when there are army of peeps camped out to take on a dragon or world bosses. Try taking on a dragon by just a few peeps or your lonesome, and see how you can boast how easy things are. Now that the event is over and the hoard of peeps are not camping out, and you only have like 4-5 peeps, the dragon is a challenge. Plus, being able to rez on the spot does make thing easier. Maybe ZOS needs to make it where in the likes of world boss pits and dragons that you need another to rez you like in dungeons.

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I have 2 manned the Wyverns. My friend has soloed them.

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Please don't start this again. The whole "hurr durr wyverns not dragons ecksdee" argument lived and died years ago - nearly 8 years, to be precise.
No matter the amount of limbs or other appendages, they are Dragons within the Elder Scrolls universe. Nothing else needs to be said about this.

like it or not but they are different kind. it may be in elderscrolls lore as dragons, but it changes nothing . wolf and dog isnt same, horse and zebra isnt same too.

Wyverns and European dragons are both dragons, just as a wolf and a domestic dog breed are both canines, and just as a horse and a zebra are both equines.

wolf and dog are both canines, but wolf isnt dog and dog isnt wolf . same goes for dragons and wyverns

or you wanna say that apes are humans?

Benzux wrote: »

And finally, the only place where the distinction between a Dragon and Wyvern really matters is English Heraldry, and even there, the definition of a Wyvern is - colour me surprised - "a winged two-legged dragon with a barbed tail.".