Something strange going on with Dragons...

starkerealm

daemonios wrote: »

I'd love to see screenshots of the 100k+ hits people are talking about.

Not 100% sure, but I think the damage dealt by the dragon scales to the number of people in combat with the dragon.

daemonios

starkerealm wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

I'd love to see screenshots of the 100k+ hits people are talking about.

Not 100% sure, but I think the damage dealt by the dragon scales to the number of people in combat with the dragon.

Even allowing for that hypothesis, I did dragons with dozens of people, to the point where they didn't even get to take off once, and never got one shotted with those numbers.

If you don't dodge, block or run out of harm's way, you're going to die anyway. At that point, 50k damage or 500k damage would be irrelevant unless you're a tank with more than 50hp who is always topped up. And I doubt a tank who doesn't mitigate damage is going to be at full hp for any significant period of time.

Benzux

starkerealm wrote: »

Benzux wrote: »

And finally, the only place where the distinction between a Dragon and Wyvern really matters is English Heraldry, and even there, the definition of a Wyvern is - colour me surprised - "a winged two-legged dragon with a barbed tail.".

Also matters for Dungeons & Dragons, which... as you may have noticed, we're not playing D&D. And, that's where a lot of this particular argument comes from, and why it's so stupid.

In D&D, Wyverns are dragons, but they're not "true dragons." Dragons, in general include a lot of critters in that setting, while "true dragons" includes a massive subset of dragons.

The whole thing is idiotic, and has no application for Elder Scrolls. Because while TES may have began its life as a D&D homebrew, it's really not one today.

Yeah, I play 5E myself so I am well aware of this. I didn't mention D&D because, as you said, we aren't playing that right now. D&D is its own fictional universe with its own rules, and like I said, other fictional universes do not matter when discussing Elder Scrolls. It's also why I brought up Terraria, where Wyverns look like traditional Chinese Dragons, and "Dragons" don't exist (except through modding, but that doesn't really count).

GenjiraX

I noticed I’ve been dying (and multiple times) today, when I generally haven’t since well before the event. I assumed it was because I wasn’t being as attentive or concerned. Even the atronachs seem to take longer to put down.

Jeremy

daemonios wrote: »

I'd love to see screenshots of the 100k+ hits people are talking about.

daemonios wrote: »

I'd love to see screenshots of the 100k+ hits people are talking about.

Since the Elsweyr event finished there are so few people doing dragons that I tried to solo one. Got it to 80%, past several take-offs, strafes, add spawns, etc. until a couple of other players showed up. It's slow going, but I was never one shotted. The hardest part for me as a magsorc dd was running out of stamina, getting hit by the fireballs and needing to heal through the DoT. Even then, blocking avoids a great deal of damage.

No attack from the dragon is unavoidable. You can dodge, block, shield and heal through all of them. Most AoE attacks are telegraphed with the usual red circles/cones. The ones that aren't - tail swipe, wing swipe and bite - can be seen coming with plenty of time to get some distance between you and the dragon or block, the latter being more than enough to survive the blow.

It's possible that some people experiencing more lag may have trouble reacting to dragon attacks. But from my experience watching people around me, many players simply aren't familiar with basic mechanics such as getting out of the flying fire breath attack, blocking swipes and the sideways fire breath, moving out of the flames on the ground, and so on.

I'll try to get a screen shot if it happens again. But it's not lag, it's not the bite, and it's not the wing/tail swipe either. I"m familiar with those attacks. This move comes out of seemingly nowhere and does insane damage (I'm talking nuclear bomb damage). It's only happened to me a few times so it doesn't happen every fight. But what ever it is - it makes those abilities you list look like a game of patty cake.

It might be a bug.

Morgha_Kul

Jeremy wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

I'd love to see screenshots of the 100k+ hits people are talking about.

daemonios wrote: »

I'd love to see screenshots of the 100k+ hits people are talking about.

Since the Elsweyr event finished there are so few people doing dragons that I tried to solo one. Got it to 80%, past several take-offs, strafes, add spawns, etc. until a couple of other players showed up. It's slow going, but I was never one shotted. The hardest part for me as a magsorc dd was running out of stamina, getting hit by the fireballs and needing to heal through the DoT. Even then, blocking avoids a great deal of damage.

No attack from the dragon is unavoidable. You can dodge, block, shield and heal through all of them. Most AoE attacks are telegraphed with the usual red circles/cones. The ones that aren't - tail swipe, wing swipe and bite - can be seen coming with plenty of time to get some distance between you and the dragon or block, the latter being more than enough to survive the blow.

It's possible that some people experiencing more lag may have trouble reacting to dragon attacks. But from my experience watching people around me, many players simply aren't familiar with basic mechanics such as getting out of the flying fire breath attack, blocking swipes and the sideways fire breath, moving out of the flames on the ground, and so on.

I'll try to get a screen shot if it happens again. But it's not lag, it's not the bite, and it's not the wing/tail swipe either. I"m familiar with those attacks. This move comes out of seemingly nowhere and does insane damage (I'm talking nuclear bomb damage). It's only happened to me a few times so it doesn't happen every fight. But what ever it is - it makes those abilities you list look like a game of patty cake.

It might be a bug.

The thought that it might be a bug is what made me post the thread in the first place...