ESO Plus alterations

Avariprivateer · October 2019

This is a suggestion to Zenimax, it kill two birds with one stone, increasing revenue and ending gambling practices.

No ESO Subscription __With ESO Plus Subscription __With ESO Pro Subscription
Purchase DLC Packs____ Full Access to DLC game packs ____Full Access to DLC game packs plus Collector items
No crafting storage bag____ Unlimited crafting storage ____Unlimited crafting storage and housing item storage
No free crowns ____1650 crowns per month ____3650 crowns per month
No extra bank space ____Double bank space ____Quadruple bank space
No gold and experience bonus ____10% bonus ____10% bonus
No crafting bonus ____10% crafting bonus ____10% crafting bonus
No extra furnature space ____Double furnature and collections space in player housing ____Quadruple furnishings and collectibles in player housing
No costume dyeing ____ Exclusive abilty to dye costumes ____Exclusive ability to dye costumes
Transmutation crystal cap ____Double transmutation currency cap ____Quadrueple transmutation currency cap
No exclusive deals ____Exclusive access to unique crown store deals ____Exclusive access to unique crown store deals
No free crown crates ____30 free monthly crates ____60 free monthly crates
No crown store price discount ____10% crown store price discount ____20% crown store price discount
No free monthly pet ____No free monthly pet ____Free monthly pet
No pvp island access ____PvP island access ____PvP island access
No exclusive horse track house _____No exclusive horse track house ____Access to exclusive horse track house

ESO Pro would hypothetically cost $19.99 or so a month.

Kiralyn2000 · October 2019

Avariprivateer wrote: »

No free crowns ____1650 crowns per month ____3650 crowns per month

No extra furnature space ____Double furnature and collections space in player housing ____Quadruple furnishings and collectibles in player housing

No free crown crates ____30 free monthly crates ____60 free monthly crates

No crown store price discount ____10% crown store price discount ____20% crown store price discount

No pvp island access ____PvP island access ____PvP island access
No exclusive horse track house _____No exclusive horse track house ____Access to exclusive horse track house

...what?

Yuffie91 · October 2019

It's already expensive enough for the things we get tyvm.

Avariprivateer · October 2019

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

Avariprivateer wrote: »

No free crowns ____1650 crowns per month ____3650 crowns per month

No extra furnature space ____Double furnature and collections space in player housing ____Quadruple furnishings and collectibles in player housing

No free crown crates ____30 free monthly crates ____60 free monthly crates

No crown store price discount ____10% crown store price discount ____20% crown store price discount

No pvp island access ____PvP island access ____PvP island access
No exclusive horse track house _____No exclusive horse track house ____Access to exclusive horse track house

...what?

Imagine a private PvP island with full landscape customization in the vain of Moonsugar Meadows or Coldharbour Estate.
Plus a nifty horse ranch to suck in the homebodies.

Raisin · October 2019

I can already tell you that the last two things are improbable, as they would lock features behind the Subscription.
I can also tell you that ADDING anything to the current ESO+ concept Is absolutely ridiculous. You think ZOS will keep ESO us the same price and just throw in 30 free crown crates? That's 10k free crowns. The amount of money that would cost ZOS is insane.

The idea of another tier of subscription is interesting. But again, there is no way ZOS would give you 60 free crown crates... That's 20k crowns. 21k crowns cost 120€. And you want them as a GIFT, ontop of other features, for 20 bucks. Please think about those numbers.

I'm not defending ZOS' money grabbing tactics, but your suggestion is literally for ZOS to just throw away money and give us a lot of things for free. It's a nice fantasy I guess.

Nothing about this increases their revenue in any way. Sure, in paper, as loot crates have no actual value, and they make more from the subscription.... But the amount you're talking WILL make them lose out on crown crate sales.

KappaKid83 · October 2019

Avariprivateer wrote: »

This is a suggestion to Zenimax, it kill two birds with one stone, increasing revenue and ending gambling practices.

No ESO Subscription __With ESO Plus Subscription __With ESO Pro Subscription
Purchase DLC Packs____ Full Access to DLC game packs ____Full Access to DLC game packs plus Collector items
No crafting storage bag____ Unlimited crafting storage ____Unlimited crafting storage and housing item storage
No free crowns ____1650 crowns per month ____3650 crowns per month
No extra bank space ____Double bank space ____Quadruple bank space
No gold and experience bonus ____10% bonus ____10% bonus
No crafting bonus ____10% crafting bonus ____10% crafting bonus
No extra furnature space ____Double furnature and collections space in player housing ____Quadruple furnishings and collectibles in player housing
No costume dyeing ____ Exclusive abilty to dye costumes ____Exclusive ability to dye costumes
Transmutation crystal cap ____Double transmutation currency cap ____Quadrueple transmutation currency cap
No exclusive deals ____Exclusive access to unique crown store deals ____Exclusive access to unique crown store deals
No free crown crates ____30 free monthly crates ____60 free monthly crates
No crown store price discount ____10% crown store price discount ____20% crown store price discount
No free monthly pet ____No free monthly pet ____Free monthly pet
No pvp island access ____PvP island access ____PvP island access
No exclusive horse track house _____No exclusive horse track house ____Access to exclusive horse track house

ESO Pro would hypothetically cost $19.99 or so a month.

I don't like the last two points and I think the price is too low, maybe 24.99 or 29.99 would be more feasible. Also, I don't think this ever actually happens but it is an interesting take on things.

Avariprivateer · October 2019

Raisin wrote: »

I can already tell you that the last two things are improbable, as they would luck features behind the Subscription.
I can also tell you that ADDING anything to the current ESO+ concept Is absolutely ridiculous. You think ZOS will keep ESO us the same price and just throw in 30 free crown crates? That's 10k free crowns. The amount of money that would cost ZOS is insane.

The idea of another tier of subscription is interesting. But again, there is no way ZOS would give you 60 free crown crates... That's 20k crowns. 21k crowns cost 120€. And you want them as a GIFT, ontop of other features, for 20 bucks. Please think about those numbers.

The argument is indeed dependent upon the crates being exceptionally overpriced filler.
I don't know the number of subs at present date but this would give nonsubscribers more reason to buy in and current subscribers a incentive to upgrade. I'm not aware of the crate sales numbers but the method described here would increase gross profit exponentially.

idk · October 2019

I think it serves Zos very well to keep it simple as it is now. So I’d suggest no to the idea.

Tandor · October 2019

Who on earth would want 30, let alone 60, crown crates per month?

Good luck with performance if you have unlimited crafting and housing storage plus housing items and collectibles. Did you mean to omit inventory space?

Not being a PvPer I have no idea what PvP island access is, then again I have no idea what exclusive horse track house is either.

Avariprivateer · October 2019

Tandor wrote: »

Who on earth would want 30, let alone 60, crown crates per month?

Good luck with performance if you have unlimited crafting and housing storage plus housing items and collectibles. Did you mean to omit inventory space?

Not being a PvPer I have no idea what PvP island access is, then again I have no idea what exclusive horse track house is either.

Adjustments can be made, I was simply finding a rough gist of it. The horse ranch would be a gimmick but Zenimax already excels in those. 30 crates was a reference to the one gift every day design from advent calendars. If crates are really that popular the active subs would jump up quite a bit.

idk · October 2019

Tandor wrote: »

Who on earth would want 30, let alone 60, crown crates per month?

Good luck with performance if you have unlimited crafting and housing storage plus housing items and collectibles. Did you mean to omit inventory space?

Not being a PvPer I have no idea what PvP island access is, then again I have no idea what exclusive horse track house is either.

I didn’t read that far. Zos isn’t going to be providing all those crates. Not even close. One much use reason and logic which coming up with ideas.

Raisin · October 2019

Avariprivateer wrote: »

Raisin wrote: »

I can already tell you that the last two things are improbable, as they would luck features behind the Subscription.
I can also tell you that ADDING anything to the current ESO+ concept Is absolutely ridiculous. You think ZOS will keep ESO us the same price and just throw in 30 free crown crates? That's 10k free crowns. The amount of money that would cost ZOS is insane.

The idea of another tier of subscription is interesting. But again, there is no way ZOS would give you 60 free crown crates... That's 20k crowns. 21k crowns cost 120€. And you want them as a GIFT, ontop of other features, for 20 bucks. Please think about those numbers.

The argument is indeed dependent upon the crates being exceptionally overpriced filler.
I don't know the number of subs at present date but this would give nonsubscribers more reason to buy in and current subscribers a incentive to upgrade. I'm not aware of the crate sales numbers but the method described here would increase gross profit exponentially.

You're still underestimating how many people buy crates. There are people who buy 100+ crown crates to get radiant mounts. A lot of them. Most people who already pay for ESO+ also buy crown crates. Giving them crates for free, and THAT MANY, means at least half of those people will stop needing to buy crates as they can get most of the small stuff and probably a few big prizes for free.
Again, adding anything to current subscription model would just be a waste of money for them. I assure you they'd rather have someone spend 70 bucks on crowns in single purchases. Right now they get people to do that AND pay for ESO+. Their big incentive for ESO+ us invo management, which is why most people sub; that pull is strong enough.
Adding exclusive Zones is against their business model and would cause insane backlash, especially from PVPers.

Your idea would in no way increase gross profit. It would lose ZOS a lot of cash money. In order for your idea to be profitable, ESO+ would have to be AT LEAST 30-50 bucks a month, and ESO++ I don't even know. And that's just ignoring the potential relation between raw crown value (currently from crown stipend alone) to RL money being applied to your crown crate idea... Oh and crown store discount, so people will buy even less crowns. Your ratios are just way way way off.
Sub rates in ESO are very high, and the people that don't sub do it for very different reasons. Cosmetic and loot incentives aren't the best strategy to draw them in.

Edit: To try and tone this down to be more realistic: if ZOS were to find it reasonable to put some teaser crown crates as an ESO plus bonus, it would probably be around 3 per month. You're suggesting ten times of a realistic number.

Edit: Just to clarify, most end-game people sub, and those people are simultaneously the biggest source of crown sales. More casual players prefer to buy crowns for specific situations and have no need for a subscription. Your idea is just already doomed to only affect a tiny niche of players.
In the end you're basing this when thing in the misguided belief that ZOS in any way needs more subs or income. But the truth is they have plenty of both. The current system is very successful in that regard.
Personally I think a small adjustment to crown pricing (either what items cost or what crowns cost) would actually increase sales as it is one of the most expensive premium currency I've ever come upon... But even then that's just my speculation.

tallenn · October 2019

Yeah, I especially don't see the free crown crates thing, certainly 30/60 (MAYBE 1/2).

Also, the price for such a service would much more likely be $29.99 per month, not $19.99.

DreadDaedroth · October 2019

They should put crown crates back with sub as it used to be.

Avariprivateer · October 2019

Raisin wrote: »

Avariprivateer wrote: »

Raisin wrote: »

I can already tell you that the last two things are improbable, as they would luck features behind the Subscription.
I can also tell you that ADDING anything to the current ESO+ concept Is absolutely ridiculous. You think ZOS will keep ESO us the same price and just throw in 30 free crown crates? That's 10k free crowns. The amount of money that would cost ZOS is insane.

The idea of another tier of subscription is interesting. But again, there is no way ZOS would give you 60 free crown crates... That's 20k crowns. 21k crowns cost 120€. And you want them as a GIFT, ontop of other features, for 20 bucks. Please think about those numbers.

The argument is indeed dependent upon the crates being exceptionally overpriced filler.
I don't know the number of subs at present date but this would give nonsubscribers more reason to buy in and current subscribers a incentive to upgrade. I'm not aware of the crate sales numbers but the method described here would increase gross profit exponentially.

You're still underestimating how many people buy crates. There are people who buy 100+ crown crates to get radiant mounts. A lot of them. Most people who already pay for ESO+ also buy crown crates. Giving them crates for free, and THAT MANY, means at least half of those people will stop needing to buy crates as they can get most of the small stuff and probably a few big prizes for free.
Again, adding anything to current subscription model would just be a waste of money for them. I assure you they'd rather have someone spend 70 bucks on crowns in single purchases. Right now they get people to do that AND pay for ESO+. Their big incentive for ESO+ us invo management, which is why most people sub; that pull is strong enough.
Adding exclusive Zones is against their business model and would cause insane backlash, especially from PVPers.

Your idea would in no way increase gross profit. It would lose ZOS a lot of cash money. In order for your idea to be profitable, ESO+ would have to be AT LEAST 30-50 bucks a month, and ESO++ I don't even know. And that's just ignoring the potential relation between raw crown value (currently from crown stipend alone) to RL money being applied to your crown crate idea... Oh and crown store discount, so people will buy even less crowns. Your ratios are just way way way off.
Sub rates in ESO are very high, and the people that don't sub do it for very different reasons. Cosmetic and loot incentives aren't the best strategy to draw them in.

Edit: To try and tone this down to be more realistic: if ZOS were to find it reasonable to put some teaser crown crates as an ESO plus bonus, it would probably be around 3 per month. You're suggesting ten times of a realistic number.

Edit: Just to clarify, most end-game people sub, and those people are simultaneously the biggest source of crown sales. More casual players prefer to buy crowns for specific situations and have no need for a subscription. Your idea is just already doomed to only affect a tiny niche of players.
In the end you're basing this when thing in the misguided belief that ZOS in any way needs more subs or income. But the truth is they have plenty of both. The current system is very successful in that regard.
Personally I think a small adjustment to crown pricing (either what items cost or what crowns cost) would actually increase sales as it is one of the most expensive premium currency I've ever come upon... But even then that's just my speculation.

Lowering the prices or increasing drop odds had occurred to me previously. What price would you think for a single crate? 300 perhaps? I was picturing 100 and people just spend the same amount total in that scenario,considering that drop rates are so low. As for the gem price being adjusted it begs the question how many for an apex reward.

Tebari · October 2019

I would much prefer that a lifetime plus option available, even if it meant you no longer received monthly crowns. As for the price, I am sure it would cost more than a year long subscription to plus.

Raisin · October 2019

Avariprivateer wrote: »

Raisin wrote: »

Avariprivateer wrote: »

Raisin wrote: »

I can already tell you that the last two things are improbable, as they would luck features behind the Subscription.
I can also tell you that ADDING anything to the current ESO+ concept Is absolutely ridiculous. You think ZOS will keep ESO us the same price and just throw in 30 free crown crates? That's 10k free crowns. The amount of money that would cost ZOS is insane.

The idea of another tier of subscription is interesting. But again, there is no way ZOS would give you 60 free crown crates... That's 20k crowns. 21k crowns cost 120€. And you want them as a GIFT, ontop of other features, for 20 bucks. Please think about those numbers.

The argument is indeed dependent upon the crates being exceptionally overpriced filler.
I don't know the number of subs at present date but this would give nonsubscribers more reason to buy in and current subscribers a incentive to upgrade. I'm not aware of the crate sales numbers but the method described here would increase gross profit exponentially.

You're still underestimating how many people buy crates. There are people who buy 100+ crown crates to get radiant mounts. A lot of them. Most people who already pay for ESO+ also buy crown crates. Giving them crates for free, and THAT MANY, means at least half of those people will stop needing to buy crates as they can get most of the small stuff and probably a few big prizes for free.
Again, adding anything to current subscription model would just be a waste of money for them. I assure you they'd rather have someone spend 70 bucks on crowns in single purchases. Right now they get people to do that AND pay for ESO+. Their big incentive for ESO+ us invo management, which is why most people sub; that pull is strong enough.
Adding exclusive Zones is against their business model and would cause insane backlash, especially from PVPers.

Your idea would in no way increase gross profit. It would lose ZOS a lot of cash money. In order for your idea to be profitable, ESO+ would have to be AT LEAST 30-50 bucks a month, and ESO++ I don't even know. And that's just ignoring the potential relation between raw crown value (currently from crown stipend alone) to RL money being applied to your crown crate idea... Oh and crown store discount, so people will buy even less crowns. Your ratios are just way way way off.
Sub rates in ESO are very high, and the people that don't sub do it for very different reasons. Cosmetic and loot incentives aren't the best strategy to draw them in.

Edit: To try and tone this down to be more realistic: if ZOS were to find it reasonable to put some teaser crown crates as an ESO plus bonus, it would probably be around 3 per month. You're suggesting ten times of a realistic number.

Edit: Just to clarify, most end-game people sub, and those people are simultaneously the biggest source of crown sales. More casual players prefer to buy crowns for specific situations and have no need for a subscription. Your idea is just already doomed to only affect a tiny niche of players.
In the end you're basing this when thing in the misguided belief that ZOS in any way needs more subs or income. But the truth is they have plenty of both. The current system is very successful in that regard.
Personally I think a small adjustment to crown pricing (either what items cost or what crowns cost) would actually increase sales as it is one of the most expensive premium currency I've ever come upon... But even then that's just my speculation.

Lowering the prices or increasing drop odds had occurred to me previously. What price would you think for a single crate? 300 perhaps? I was picturing 100 and people just spend the same amount total in that scenario,considering that drop rates are so low. As for the gem price being adjusted it begs the question how many for an apex reward.

The gem pricing is a bit difficult in my opinion, as I do understand the concept. I think it would have to be the last thing adjusted on the other changes. I believe the logic behind it is "The player wants this mount. After how many crates of trying we say okay, you're unlucky and deserve the mount." Then multiply that number by an average amount of crown gems you may expect to get per crate.
In my personal experience, drop rates for most things (so not radiant Apex) in crates aren't that low, so to be honest I don't think I'm a good source for that. Outside of radiant mounts, I usually expect to clear out all lower tier rewards, 2 Apex mounts, and most of the medium tier rewards in 30 crates. With gems to buy 1-3 100-200 gem items plus any small stuff I might miss, that basically makes it my experience that 30 crates is enough to roughly clear out a season. 45 I would expect to have everything but the radiant amounts, though I can't recall ever buying that many. (There was once, but I was chasing a radiant mount ok)
So yeah, I'm hesitant on that topic. I do think 300 for 1 crate seems reasonable; 4 for 1.1k, 3750 for 15? I just don't think ZOS would do that and has any reasons to change it.
I mostly think that either the crowns to RL currency should be changed, or the general pricing of crown store content. 10 bucks for 1 single extra character slot. Most special mounts are 20 bucks, and there's just a general pricing discrepancy between actual game content and cosmetic items. I believe if mounts for example went down to half their price or at least 75%, it would help sales. Right now the prices are just too far behind the threshold where people can't justify the purchase. I know I would buy more things if the prices were adjusted just a bit, because I do really love treating myself... But you need buyers to be left with a good feeling after the purchase, like they treated themselves just a little and the purchase was worth it.... That balance is missing.

I firmly believe that crowns as a premium currency are too insanely priced and not at the most profitable point for ZOS.... But they know their numbers, and we don't. We may be naive.

Anyway, to come back to the OP: Aside from those issues, I do still find a second tier supscription interesting. As I said earlier, inventory management is the biggest draw of ESO plus ATM. A second tier that offers more in that area would in my opinion reach a certain audience and succeed.

jircris11 · October 2019

Yuffie91 wrote: »

It's already expensive enough for the things we get tyvm.

How so? We get over 15 usd in crowns alone, plus crafting bag, dlcs, bank space, minor xp and gold boost as well as a free item monthly. How is that too expensive considering we get OVER 15usd in value?

Avariprivateer · October 2019

Revision as follows:

No ESO Subscription __With ESO Plus Subscription __With ESO Pro Subscription
Purchase DLC Packs____ Full Access to DLC game packs ____Full Access to DLC game packs plus Collector items
No crafting storage bag____ Unlimited crafting storage ____Unlimited crafting storage
No free crowns ____1650 crowns per month ____3650 crowns per month
No extra bank space ____Double bank space ____Quadruple bank space
No gold and experience bonus ____10% bonus ____10% bonus
No crafting bonus ____10% crafting bonus ____10% crafting bonus
No extra furniture space ____Double furniture and collections space in player housing ____Triple furnishings and collectibles in player housing
No costume dyeing ____ Exclusive ability to dye costumes ____Exclusive ability to dye costumes
Transmutation crystal cap ____Double transmutation currency cap ____ Double transmutation currency cap
No exclusive deals ____Exclusive access to unique crown store deals ____Exclusive access to unique crown store deals
No free crown crates ____3 free monthly crates ____20 free monthly crates
No crown store price discount ____5% crown store price discount ____10% crown store price discount
No free monthly pet ____No free monthly pet ____Free monthly pet
No pvp island access ____PvP island access ____PvP island access
No exclusive horse track ranch _____No exclusive horse track ranch ____Access to exclusive horse track ranch
No exclusive skins ____ No exclusive skins____Exclusive Maormer scale skin upon purchase
No exclusive title ____No exclusive title_____ Exclusive Cash Cow title and pet

Raisin · October 2019

I still think the permanent discount + crates is too much together.
Locking the PVP feature behind a subscription doesn't work, make it a DLC that is also purchasable. The Maormer fish skin is too long-awaited to suffer that fate, people would be furious.
The cash-cow title is a beautiful addition to their pay-to-lose category and I want it.

KappaKid83 · October 2019

Avariprivateer wrote: »

Revision as follows:

No ESO Subscription __With ESO Plus Subscription __With ESO Pro Subscription
Purchase DLC Packs____ Full Access to DLC game packs ____Full Access to DLC game packs plus Collector items
No crafting storage bag____ Unlimited crafting storage ____Unlimited crafting storage
No free crowns ____1650 crowns per month ____3650 crowns per month
No extra bank space ____Double bank space ____Quadruple bank space
No gold and experience bonus ____10% bonus ____10% bonus
No crafting bonus ____10% crafting bonus ____10% crafting bonus
No extra furniture space ____Double furniture and collections space in player housing ____Triple furnishings and collectibles in player housing
No costume dyeing ____ Exclusive ability to dye costumes ____Exclusive ability to dye costumes
Transmutation crystal cap ____Double transmutation currency cap ____ Double transmutation currency cap
No exclusive deals ____Exclusive access to unique crown store deals ____Exclusive access to unique crown store deals
No free crown crates ____3 free monthly crates ____20 free monthly crates
No crown store price discount ____5% crown store price discount ____10% crown store price discount
No free monthly pet ____No free monthly pet ____Free monthly pet
No pvp island access ____PvP island access ____PvP island access
No exclusive horse track ranch _____No exclusive horse track ranch ____Access to exclusive horse track ranch
No exclusive skins ____ No exclusive skins____Exclusive Maormer scale skin upon purchase
No exclusive title ____No exclusive title_____ Exclusive Cash Cow title and pet

First one in Bold, extra furniture space is meh, keep that capped per home size. Second one I love, thats a great addition. The PVP Island is far fetched and to me would require Cyrodil to be working great to even consider this. What the hell is a horse track ranch???

Neoealth · October 2019

Whats with the layout of your post OP?

Why all the _______ ?

Dawnblade · October 2019

If they want me to pay for a subscription - they need to return to the original model of DLCs with large zones included in the subscription.

Moving to a once per year paid chapter, with mostly dungeons as the 'free access for subscribers' content, is so not worth it.

Mitrenga · October 2019

It seems to me the proposed price is too low. For benefits like those, we should all worship ZoS.
I'm amazed how low the customer expectations are in these years...
Game is broken mate. Servers are a mess. We play this game despite ZoS, because we love the game/lore.

Game is in a so terrible state, we are having triple maintenance and cancelled events (Yes, still no news regarding the Pelinal event).
Fix the game stability first, then we can talk about the ESO Plus price and benefits.

KappaKid83 · October 2019

Neoealth wrote: »

Whats with the layout of your post OP?

Why all the _______ ?

Differentiating the Tiers of Subscription. First one is no sub then ESO PLUS then the OP's idea of an ESO PRO

kargen27 · October 2019

Avariprivateer wrote: »

This is a suggestion to Zenimax, it kill two birds with one stone, increasing revenue and ending gambling practices.

No ESO Subscription __With ESO Plus Subscription __With ESO Pro Subscription
Purchase DLC Packs____ Full Access to DLC game packs ____Full Access to DLC game packs plus Collector items
No crafting storage bag____ Unlimited crafting storage ____Unlimited crafting storage and housing item storage
No free crowns ____1650 crowns per month ____3650 crowns per month
No extra bank space ____Double bank space ____Quadruple bank space
No gold and experience bonus ____10% bonus ____10% bonus
No crafting bonus ____10% crafting bonus ____10% crafting bonus
No extra furnature space ____Double furnature and collections space in player housing ____Quadruple furnishings and collectibles in player housing
No costume dyeing ____ Exclusive abilty to dye costumes ____Exclusive ability to dye costumes
Transmutation crystal cap ____Double transmutation currency cap ____Quadrueple transmutation currency cap
No exclusive deals ____Exclusive access to unique crown store deals ____Exclusive access to unique crown store deals
No free crown crates ____30 free monthly crates ____60 free monthly crates
No crown store price discount ____10% crown store price discount ____20% crown store price discount
No free monthly pet ____No free monthly pet ____Free monthly pet
No pvp island access ____PvP island access ____PvP island access
No exclusive horse track house _____No exclusive horse track house ____Access to exclusive horse track house

ESO Pro would hypothetically cost $19.99 or so a month.

ZoS has said they can't increase the amount of furnishings we can place because of performance issues. Some players think that is just an excuse. Either way it can't happen now behind a new pay wall. Players would see it as ZoS lying to them all this time.
Same with storage for furniture. We have been told it can't happen because of the sheer number of different furnishings compared to number of materials.
No way they are going to give $80 worth of crown crates for $20 subscription.
PvP is already underpopulated. A new zone would make that worse. Locking it behind a subscription would alienate way more customers than it would draw in.
I doubt they want to create a new pet every month. If they were to do this it would just be something already in game with a slight color difference. Players would complain they are paying for a new pet and only getting a reskinned pet.

Your idea does nothing to end gambling practices unless ZoS simply quit selling crown crates. In fact it might make things worse for some people.

Avariprivateer · October 2019

Second revision as follows:
No ESO Subscription __With ESO Plus Subscription __With ESO Pro Subscription
Purchase DLC Packs____ Full Access to DLC game packs ____Full Access to DLC game packs plus Collector items
No crafting storage bag____ Unlimited crafting storage ____Unlimited crafting storage
No free crowns ____1650 crowns per month ____2650 crowns per month
No extra bank space ____Double bank space ____Quadruple bank space
No gold and experience bonus ____10% bonus ____10% bonus
No crafting bonus ____10% crafting bonus ____10% crafting bonus
No extra furniture space ____Double furniture and collections space in player housing ____Double furnishings and collectibles in player housing
No costume dyeing ____ Exclusive ability to dye costumes ____Exclusive ability to dye costumes
Transmutation crystal cap ____Double transmutation currency cap ____ Double transmutation currency cap
No exclusive deals ____Exclusive access to unique crown store deals ____Exclusive access to unique crown store deals
No free crown crates ____3 free monthly crates ____12 free monthly crates
No crown store price discount ____No crown store price discount ____5% crown store price discount
No free monthly pet ____No free monthly pet ____Free monthly pet
PvP island access- public version ____PvP island access- public version ____PvP island access-public version and private editing
No exclusive horse track ranch _____No exclusive horse track ranch ____Access to exclusive horse track ranch upon purchase
No exclusive skins ____ No exclusive skins____Exclusive "obsidian " Maormer scale skin upon purchase
No exclusive title ____No exclusive title_____ Exclusive Cash Cow title and pet

Avariprivateer · October 2019

kargen27 wrote: »

Avariprivateer wrote: »

This is a suggestion to Zenimax, it kill two birds with one stone, increasing revenue and ending gambling practices.

No ESO Subscription __With ESO Plus Subscription __With ESO Pro Subscription
Purchase DLC Packs____ Full Access to DLC game packs ____Full Access to DLC game packs plus Collector items
No crafting storage bag____ Unlimited crafting storage ____Unlimited crafting storage and housing item storage
No free crowns ____1650 crowns per month ____3650 crowns per month
No extra bank space ____Double bank space ____Quadruple bank space
No gold and experience bonus ____10% bonus ____10% bonus
No crafting bonus ____10% crafting bonus ____10% crafting bonus
No extra furnature space ____Double furnature and collections space in player housing ____Quadruple furnishings and collectibles in player housing
No costume dyeing ____ Exclusive abilty to dye costumes ____Exclusive ability to dye costumes
Transmutation crystal cap ____Double transmutation currency cap ____Quadrueple transmutation currency cap
No exclusive deals ____Exclusive access to unique crown store deals ____Exclusive access to unique crown store deals
No free crown crates ____30 free monthly crates ____60 free monthly crates
No crown store price discount ____10% crown store price discount ____20% crown store price discount
No free monthly pet ____No free monthly pet ____Free monthly pet
No pvp island access ____PvP island access ____PvP island access
No exclusive horse track house _____No exclusive horse track house ____Access to exclusive horse track house

ESO Pro would hypothetically cost $19.99 or so a month.

Your idea does nothing to end gambling practices unless ZoS simply quit selling crown crates. In fact it might make things worse for some people.

My inspiration was Core Crystals from Nintendo's Xenoblade Chronicles 2, which come with the game but a few extras come with the expansion pass. I have made changes.

Avariprivateer · October 2019

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idk · October 2019

DreadDaedroth wrote: »

They should put crown crates back with sub as it used to be.

I do not recall crates being part of ESO+

Davor · October 2019

Raisin wrote: »

That's 10k free crowns. The amount of money that would cost ZOS is insane.

I respectfully disagree here. 10K crowns costs nothing to Zenimax. It's fake currency. Cost Zenimax nothing and if Zenimax puts in more crowns, there is no inflation and value of a crown goes down. So it doesn't matter. To give out that much or what ever amount is to get people on a monthly plan, or a more steady stream of revenue.

To @Avariprivateer how is this stopping gambling? It adds more to it. I thought this post was to eliminate crates. Having MORE random loot boxes doesn't end gambling practices, it's the same old same old, maybe even getting more people hooked who wouldn't have before.

I just say, make a great product and people will buy/pay for it. Since Zeinmax/Bethesda Online can't or won't make a great product and rely on gambling to make money, shame they work more on gambling than making a great awesome product.