Aelakhaii_De_Mythos wrote: »People can deny it all they want but most human beings are actually genuinely disgusting.
They are rude on the net because they can get away with it.
You know, I'd like to know where these people are, because I've not run across one single rude person in this game.
Almost everyone I've spoken with or played with has been very helpful and nice.
I'm not saying rude people don't exist, I'm sure they do, but I can't believe for one second the game is filled with them.
So rather than harp one the few rude people, why not actually write a post about the many more nice people you've encountered.
I'll put up a box of donuts there are many more friendly people than rude.
I didn't encounter obvious signs of "toxicity". Indeed some people do rather immature jokes, like sitting near a crowded place like a bank teller and throwing mud balls, or making fun of each other over the zone chat. I've also seen some people say rude things about certain ethnicities, but that's just things I move away from.
I've encountered plenty of bad players in dungeons, in random groups over my first year, and that's the reason I don't run veteran content with random people anymore. I mean I've done the part of explaining strategies, pointing out mistakes in rotation and build that lead to low DPS, only for that to be ignored, and I've even been cursed by some of those players. And they weren't even new to the game, some had quite high CP, and were simply morons. As a result, when I do run with random groups, usually to farm some odd missing piece of gear on normal mode, I will only explain once, and if ignored and as a result the run fails, I either leave the group, or vote to kick the player who fails. If people don't listen and "play their way" thus causing the group to fail it's the right thing to do. There's nothing "elitist" about it, as there's nothing "elitist" by kicking someone from the soccer team when he keeps scoring own goals. Maybe some of the allegedly "toxic" and "elitist" players that you've encountered are really good people that have been simply fed up with failing again and again because team mates keep behaving badly. That tends to grind your patience quite a lot in the long term, to burn you out, and to actually degrade your gameplay.
I've been trough that and there's a simple long term fix to insulate yourself from bad players that don't want to improve and hold you down, by finding a guild with good players, that help you improve, that make trial and dungeon runs enjoyable. Nowadays I only play group content in this game with friends and guild mates, and I'm far less tense and nervous than before. My gameplay has suffered because I ran with bad group. For example I tend towards somewhat selfish builds as tank, so I can heal myself at any time, I block-cancel my attacks as DD, cast Vigor every rotation instead of DPS skill and block/dodge a lot when there's a "red circle" because because I'm not used to being healed properly. As a result I can't really put up the amount of DPS as I otherwise would, and I cannot tank as well as other of my guild mates. It will take time to grow out of it. So yea, playing with bad players for a long time is what turns out to be "toxic".
Murkmire is the worst for just miserable, hateful people.
I’ll always ask in chat if they know the mechanics of the harder boss fights and if not I can explain them, most never answer and the ones that do generally try to keep to my advice. There’s always a slight beautiful mess to it all but you have to give those players credit, the thing is I all ways think I sound preachy even though I’m generally trying to help. It’s text form and just the way it comes across
Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »Internet anonymity turns some people into jerks since they cannot be held accountable for their actions.
Yes, don't remember many rude players, had one back at launchComing from wow have not met many rude people here at all in the last 2 years!
Tan9oSuccka wrote: »
The best experience I've ever had in an MMO is FF14. There are rewards given out after obtaining a certain number of commendations, which can be handed out (one per player) to anyone in your dungeon group
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There is also a world chat made just for help. New players have one icon, and after doing a ton of different aspects of the game (assuring the player both knows what they are talking about, and is willing to help), players can be promoted to a higher rank, showing you are a willing mentor.
So I am sure not one to judge people at all but during my short time period on this game I have definitely ran into quit a few people who talk crap on low levels they play with and I just don’t understand why they do so, if you have such a problem with people why stay in a group with them and not just leave? Yes this is probably a stupid post but for such a beautiful game why do people still have to hate, I may never understand.
It's all true. My ignore list is maxxed out.
I once tried to help out a lowbie on his bow la spamming build when he qued into my vet scalecaller, he called me an elitist and said that high end players are toxic. Some lowbies take build critism badly
Meet one A-hole , it was a bad experience. Meet nothing but A-holes all day? IT's probably you.
xeha_arwen11 wrote: »TL;DR
Tons of toxic people and incidents about 90 percent of the time. Need game masters. Game will improve if action is taken and people act decently.
LadyNalcarya wrote: »xeha_arwen11 wrote: »TL;DR
Tons of toxic people and incidents about 90 percent of the time. Need game masters. Game will improve if action is taken and people act decently.
Hmm sounds like console community is significantly more toxic than PC. That's a shame, PC/EU ESO is one of less toxic games I've played.
The only thing on your list that often happens here is chest stealing.
xeha_arwen11 wrote: »TL;DR
Tons of toxic people and incidents about 90 percent of the time. Need game masters. Game will improve if action is taken and people act decently.
xeha_arwen11 wrote: »Yes, the following is long. There's a lot to cover.