Cyrodiil server performance is realated to animation cancelling/LA weaving
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Siohwenoeht✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This is freaking hilarious. I spent nearly 3 years exclusively PvPing, and not once did I hear the terms "light attack cancelling" or "light attack weaving" come up. I heard the term "weaving", but I don't think most people who used it even knew what it meant exactly.
In short, very few PvPers actually use light attacks in between their skills (check your death recap. Any light attacks in there?), so there is NO WAY those are responsible for the Cyrodil lag. Also, given the average dps of the average player, I'm willing to bet very few players period actually employ proper light attack weaving or animation cancelling. You guys have GOT to stop with the crusade against it.
So much this. I cannot recall the last time I saw a light attack on death recap, in fact, I see more heavies going off than anything to recoup resources. Light attacks do happen, but they are the easiest load on the server. And I won't post my evidence since op doesn't seem to think any is needed lol."It is a lovely language, but it takes a very long time saying anything in it, because we do not say anything in it, unless it is worth taking a long time to say, and to listen to." - Treebeard1 -
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Not just macros, 'air blocking' pvpers too. They could have stopped to help, but were too busy ulti-dumping on undergeared pve-ers.1 -
Katahdin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭logarifmik wrote: »
Sounds reasonable enough. I'd prefer to see some numbers, though. And some comments from developers regarding the issue. The last part would be an extraordinary event, considering how bad they are in communication when it comes to problems the game have.SpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »source for that claim?
Dont need a source you can test it yourself.
when riding in cyrodiil or near a keep (out of combat) you should have arround 60 fps.
The moment you start a fight, fps drop to 20 and lag spikes.
And don't tell me because i have a bad PC as mine got 8700k and 1080ti.
This is related to server performance as the server struggle to follow all the queries sent from all players.
Their is a reason why most of mmo add a GCD to players skills, to let server handle all the informations sent from and to players.
This also happen in trials so not only in Cyrodiil so it affects pve players as well.
If you are worried about your dps drop because of this don't worry as zenimax can buff skills to compensate the loss from LA weaving.
Results: a better game with better performance not the slideshow that make every other mmo laught at.
you look for evidence? just watch any twitch stream if you can't play and notice the difference frames/lag before and during a fight.
Even NASA server can't recieve/send all the queries from and to players without frame rate drop and lag.
The lag comes from calculations, such as damage vs. mitigation, healing vs. defile, and so on. (Those are examples...)
Not the animation or canceling of such. In fact, reason dictates it would improve performance since the animation wouldn't even register when it's canceled, reducing visual input.
Theory holds no water.
LA are associated to a skill in 90% of all damage per sec (dp^s) during a fights.
That means 50% of all queries sent are LA (sometimes block or bash doesn't matter).
In PvE, not so much in PvP
Funny all my groups use LA weaving in trials but I don't get any noticeable lag because of it.
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I think OP is trying to oversimplify the server performance issue to fit their dislike for AC.
Fact. Server performance is due to overall load. So when we get a lot of players together using various skills and such there are more calculations. This has been amplified by the number of buffs and debuffs along with other % modifiers we use increase the number of calculations which further increase that server load.
This is why when you are off with a small group the performance is significantly better.
So to suggest getting rid of AC will magically solve the performance in Cyrodiil just shows a lack of understanding of what all goes into that server load.7 -
r3turn2s3nd3r✭✭✭✭✭SpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »source for that claim?
Dont need a source you can test it yourself.
So, you tested this yourself? You have concrete, irrefutable proof / evidence that it's light attack weaving. You had the entire server in the PVP campaign all light attacking at a keep and recorded the fps performance and then had the entire server in the same campaign all stop light attack weaving and measure fps performance and collected a non trivial set of data points to prove it? Let's see it....
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Delparis✭✭✭✭✭I think OP is trying to oversimplify the server performance issue to fit their dislike for AC.
Fact. Server performance is due to overall load. So when we get a lot of players together using various skills and such there are more calculations. This has been amplified by the number of buffs and debuffs along with other % modifiers we use increase the number of calculations which further increase that server load.
This is why when you are off with a small group the performance is significantly better.
So to suggest getting rid of AC will magically solve the performance in Cyrodiil just shows a lack of understanding of what all goes into that server load.
since LA is used with almost every skill in pvp (bash too for stam build) i'm pretty sure that fixing this animation cancelling bug will improve performance.
Less variables to calculate are always good to take.1 -
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✭✭SpacemanSpiff1 wrote: »source for that claim?
Dont need a source
nothing more to discuss then5 -
p00tx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I think OP is trying to oversimplify the server performance issue to fit their dislike for AC.
Fact. Server performance is due to overall load. So when we get a lot of players together using various skills and such there are more calculations. This has been amplified by the number of buffs and debuffs along with other % modifiers we use increase the number of calculations which further increase that server load.
This is why when you are off with a small group the performance is significantly better.
So to suggest getting rid of AC will magically solve the performance in Cyrodiil just shows a lack of understanding of what all goes into that server load.
since LA is used with almost every skill in pvp (bash too for stam build) i'm pretty sure that fixing this animation cancelling bug will improve performance.
Less variables to calculate are always good to take.
I'm telling you it's not. Almost no one in there light attack weaves. It's not a thing except for the small handful of cross-over player who both PvP and PvE seriously. PvPers weave together strong burst combos, and good stam players weave heavy attacks in more often than light attacks because they're easy to quickly clip with stam skills and put out a lot of dmg. I didn't actually start weaving light attacks into my attacks until I started raiding and learned how to do it properly. What they do NOT generally do is stand there weaving together an entire dps rotation with light attacks. In fact, many just freak out and spam the same skill over and over again until either they or their opponent is dead from either dmg or boredom. How much PvPing have you actually done?Edited by p00tx on September 20, 2019 9:34PMPC/Xbox NA
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idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I think OP is trying to oversimplify the server performance issue to fit their dislike for AC.
Fact. Server performance is due to overall load. So when we get a lot of players together using various skills and such there are more calculations. This has been amplified by the number of buffs and debuffs along with other % modifiers we use increase the number of calculations which further increase that server load.
This is why when you are off with a small group the performance is significantly better.
So to suggest getting rid of AC will magically solve the performance in Cyrodiil just shows a lack of understanding of what all goes into that server load.
since LA is used with almost every skill in pvp (bash too for stam build) i'm pretty sure that fixing this animation cancelling bug will improve performance.
Less variables to calculate are always good to take.
I do not think Zos is going to get rid of basic attacks, which is exactly what you are suggesting without a doubt. Further, I do not think Zos is going to redesign combat so that blocking, roll dodging and bashing for interrupts is not required as it is now. And yes, it would require a redesign for that change.
This thread seems to be nothing more than a thinly veiled get rid of AC thread. It is pretty obvious. Zos is not going to do so.7 -
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✭Seeing as I have no large issues in trials.Why on bloody earth would I give away the one good thing about the combat system?
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Delparis✭✭✭✭✭I think OP is trying to oversimplify the server performance issue to fit their dislike for AC.
Fact. Server performance is due to overall load. So when we get a lot of players together using various skills and such there are more calculations. This has been amplified by the number of buffs and debuffs along with other % modifiers we use increase the number of calculations which further increase that server load.
This is why when you are off with a small group the performance is significantly better.
So to suggest getting rid of AC will magically solve the performance in Cyrodiil just shows a lack of understanding of what all goes into that server load.
since LA is used with almost every skill in pvp (bash too for stam build) i'm pretty sure that fixing this animation cancelling bug will improve performance.
Less variables to calculate are always good to take.
I do not think Zos is going to get rid of basic attacks, which is exactly what you are suggesting without a doubt. Further, I do not think Zos is going to redesign combat so that blocking, roll dodging and bashing for interrupts is not required as it is now. And yes, it would require a redesign for that change.
This thread seems to be nothing more than a thinly veiled get rid of AC thread. It is pretty obvious. Zos is not going to do so.
Not get rid of basic attacks, just fix them to what they should be.
Eveyone who started playing this game didn't weave or anim cancel by bar swaping, because this isn't a natural or logic mechanic.
Let's just say it loud and clear it's a bug and should be fixed.
I don't know if ZoS care about those players that only pvp in cyrodiil, never buy a dlc or expansion or the new ones that are confused by this broken mechanic that they moved aways from the game.
ZoS if you want to get money fix those little things that are bugged since launch to get a true return on investment.
Veteran players (especially pvper) don't pay anymore for the game, new ones will do but you need to take care of those bugs before.3 -
kargen27✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Unless ZoS decides to fix the animation cancelling/LA weaving bug, Cyrodiil will keep the bad server performance.
Just fix it please.
when riding in cyrodiil or near a keep (out of combat) you should have arround 60 fps with good Pc.
The moment you start a fight, fps drop to 20 and lag spikes.
And don't tell me because i have a bad PC as mine got 8700k and 1080ti.
This is related to server performance as the server struggle to follow all the queries sent from all players.
Their is a reason why most of mmo add a GCD to players skills, to let server handle all the informations sent from and to players.
This also happen in trials so not only in Cyrodiil so it affects pve players as well.
If you are worried about your dps drop because of this don't worry as zenimax can buff skills to compensate the loss from LA weaving.
Results: a better game with better performance not the slideshow that make every other mmo laught at.
@ZOS_MattFiror @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler
edit: added some explanation
and then the parrot said, "must be the water mines green too."9 -
Delparis✭✭✭✭✭here a video how combat looked like before LA weaving and animation cancelling bug discovery.
More natural combat, more tactical and more fluid, not the mess that combat turned into
thanks to @runkorkoeb17_ESO
https://youtu.be/kiAZahhrVbM
Edited by Delparis on September 20, 2019 8:04PM1 -
Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
✭If you wanna slow the game down and be playing in cyro by yourself then ye lets remove ani cancel.
I almost fell asleep during that vid, too slow.
ALL the real players will leave if ani cancel gets removed as it will affect more than you understand.3 -
Runkorko✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lol now you really are reaching for straws
Your crusade against animation cancelling/LA weaving is pointless. LA weaving won't be removed from the
game no matter what you try to blame it for. Might as well try to blame WWI on animation cancelling...
Lol
Hes not alone in this crusade.
Ask ZoS for QA and see the results.
Even now we have 43vs47% on the forums. and we all know that most ppl who are against A/C dont even visit the forums.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/400620/do-you-want-zos-to-fix-animation-cancelling/p1
Dont act like you are majority.
Yes you are, in forums. You can keep A/C here, we dont mind.
Most of the forum users dont even play EsO so yea ..If you wanna slow the game down and be playing in cyro by yourself then ye lets remove ani cancel.
I almost fell asleep during that vid, too slow.
ALL the real players will leave if ani cancel gets removed as it will affect more than you understand.
Just for the records, Cyro was way more populated then.
Because game play was too slow and boring thats why Sypher is sweaty...
I can hear his brain working man.
And trust me, even now he can beat me, you and most of the pvp players we have atm.
Just admit that if pvp require brain work you will need to give up... (or woke up your brain and have actual fun)
Its more easy to spam 3 keys and die or win i agree.
And why the heck you mean by REAL players will leave?
Most/if not all/ of them already gone...Edited by Runkorko on September 20, 2019 8:20PM2 -
Katahdin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »Lol now you really are reaching for straws
Your crusade against animation cancelling/LA weaving is pointless. LA weaving won't be removed from the
game no matter what you try to blame it for. Might as well try to blame WWI on animation cancelling...
Lol
Hes not alone in this crusade.
Ask ZoS for QA and see the results.
Even now we have 43vs47% on the forums. and we all know that most ppl who are against A/C dont even visit the forums.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/400620/do-you-want-zos-to-fix-animation-cancelling/p1
Dont act like you are majority.
Yes you are, in forums. You can keep A/C here, we dont mind.
Most of the forum users dont even play EsO so yea ..
The majority of players don't even know or understand what animation cancelling is.
Forum polls are meaningless. Majority, non majority doesn't matter. So don't pretend that any of this matters.
What does matter is that the devs endorse and accept animation cancelling and light attack weaving as part of the game they like and want to keep and even encourage people to use in game.Edited by Katahdin on September 20, 2019 8:20PMBeta tester November 20134 -
Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
✭runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »Lol now you really are reaching for straws
Your crusade against animation cancelling/LA weaving is pointless. LA weaving won't be removed from the
game no matter what you try to blame it for. Might as well try to blame WWI on animation cancelling...
Lol
Hes not alone in this crusade.
Ask ZoS for QA and see the results.
Even now we have 43vs47% on the forums. and we all know that most ppl who are against A/C dont even visit the forums.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/400620/do-you-want-zos-to-fix-animation-cancelling/p1
Dont act like you are majority.
Yes you are, in forums. You can keep A/C here, we dont mind.
Most of the forum users dont even play EsO so yea ..
Please explain to me why you think ani cancel should be removed, don't say its linked to server performance because that is BS of the highest order. Just your main reason.3 -
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✭✭runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »Lol now you really are reaching for straws
Your crusade against animation cancelling/LA weaving is pointless. LA weaving won't be removed from the
game no matter what you try to blame it for. Might as well try to blame WWI on animation cancelling...
Lol
Hes not alone in this crusade.
Ask ZoS for QA and see the results.
Even now we have 43vs47% on the forums. and we all know that most ppl who are against A/C dont even visit the forums.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/400620/do-you-want-zos-to-fix-animation-cancelling/p1
Dont act like you are majority.
Yes you are, in forums. You can keep A/C here, we dont mind.
Most of the forum users dont even play EsO so yea ..If you wanna slow the game down and be playing in cyro by yourself then ye lets remove ani cancel.
I almost fell asleep during that vid, too slow.
ALL the real players will leave if ani cancel gets removed as it will affect more than you understand.
Just for the records, Cyro was way more populated then.
Because game play was too slow and boring thats why Sypher is sweaty...
I can hear his brain working man.
And trust me, even now he can beat me, you and most of the pvp players we have atm.
Just admit that if pvp require brain work you will need to give up... (or woke up your brain and have actual fun)
Its more easy to spam 3 keys and die or win i agree.
And why the heck you mean by REAL players will leave?
Most/if not all/ of them already gone...
That poll is from over a year ago. A more recent shows 57% favor them, at least in part.
More importantly, if most forums users don't play, wouldn't that invalidate the forums poll you're submitting to support your claim?4 -
p00tx✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭here a video how combat looked like before LA weaving and animation cancelling bug discovery.
More natural combat, more tactical and more fluid, not the mess that combat turned into
thanks to @runkorkoeb17_ESOhttps://youtu.be/kiAZahhrVbM
Sooo...a lot of those players, including Sypher were light attack weaving (albeit sporadically), and they were cancelling the f&*k out of their animations. What were you hoping to prove with this?PC/Xbox NA
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Runkorko✭✭✭✭✭
✭runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »Lol now you really are reaching for straws
Your crusade against animation cancelling/LA weaving is pointless. LA weaving won't be removed from the
game no matter what you try to blame it for. Might as well try to blame WWI on animation cancelling...
Lol
Hes not alone in this crusade.
Ask ZoS for QA and see the results.
Even now we have 43vs47% on the forums. and we all know that most ppl who are against A/C dont even visit the forums.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/400620/do-you-want-zos-to-fix-animation-cancelling/p1
Dont act like you are majority.
Yes you are, in forums. You can keep A/C here, we dont mind.
Most of the forum users dont even play EsO so yea ..
Please explain to me why you think ani cancel should be removed, don't say its linked to server performance because that is BS of the highest order. Just your main reason.
BS? Why you think zos reduce aoe targets back in time ?
More skill spam= more lag. I`m not here to convice you.
There are enough info about that already.
Ask any of the 120k ST dps guys, or pvp gurus, who make guides and look like "gods" to set a second camera, showing their hands.
Or to give TeamViewer acces to ZoS admin in the moment they record this videos.
Then you will see why i want A/C removed.
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✭✭runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »Most of the forum users dont even play EsO so yea ..
You just love to make stuff up, don't you?5 -
Sanguinor2✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »
Hes not alone in this crusade.
Ask ZoS for QA and see the results.
Even now we have 43vs47% on the forums. and we all know that most ppl who are against A/C dont even visit the forums.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/400620/do-you-want-zos-to-fix-animation-cancelling/p1
Dont act like you are majority.
Yes you are, in forums. You can keep A/C here, we dont mind.
Most of the forum users dont even play EsO so yea ..
Since someone has to do this everywhere a poll gets used for something I might aswell be the one to tell you: This poll is completely irrelevant. Forum Population is already Pretty small compared to game Population and the amount of Forum People caring to vote About this is even smaller. Also sample size is way too small to draw any relevant conclusions beyond X People voted Y so yeah. And you have no way of knowing how the majority of People see it that dont frequent the Forums unless you got Zos statistics somehow.runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »Just for the records, Cyro was way more populated then.
Because game play was too slow and boring thats why Sypher is sweaty...
I can hear his brain working man.
And trust me, even now he can beat me, you and most of the pvp players we have atm.
Just admit that if pvp require brain work you will need to give up... (or woke up your brain and have actual fun)
Its more easy to spam 3 keys and die or win i agree.
And why the heck you mean by REAL players will leave?
Most/if not all/ of them already gone...
Wanna know why cyro was more populated then? It was because the Servers actually supported a larger Population since very much was done clientside instead of serverside. Remember Zazeer? That was a not so Pleasant side effect of Clientside calculations. Lighting patch also happened and the rest is history. So yeah LA weaving/Animation cancelling played barely any part in that.Politeness is respecting others.
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✭runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »Lol now you really are reaching for straws
Your crusade against animation cancelling/LA weaving is pointless. LA weaving won't be removed from the
game no matter what you try to blame it for. Might as well try to blame WWI on animation cancelling...
Lol
Hes not alone in this crusade.
Ask ZoS for QA and see the results.
Even now we have 43vs47% on the forums. and we all know that most ppl who are against A/C dont even visit the forums.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/400620/do-you-want-zos-to-fix-animation-cancelling/p1
Dont act like you are majority.
Yes you are, in forums. You can keep A/C here, we dont mind.
Most of the forum users dont even play EsO so yea ..
Please explain to me why you think ani cancel should be removed, don't say its linked to server performance because that is BS of the highest order. Just your main reason.
BS? Why you think zos reduce aoe targets back in time ?
More skill spam= more lag. I`m not here to convice you.
There are enough info about that already.
Ask any of the 120k ST dps guys, or pvp gurus, who make guides and look like "gods" to set a second camera, showing their hands.
Or to give TeamViewer acces to ZoS admin in the moment they record this videos.
Then you will see why i want A/C removed.
GCD is 1 skill every 0.99 second, it will still be the same amount of aoe spam with ani cancel removed.
I don't know what any of that means, just tell me your reason you want ani cancel removed and the effect you think it will have on the game.
Also what platform / server do you play on.Edited by Stebarnz on September 20, 2019 8:33PM2 -
Runkorko✭✭✭✭✭
✭Agenericname wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »Lol now you really are reaching for straws
Your crusade against animation cancelling/LA weaving is pointless. LA weaving won't be removed from the
game no matter what you try to blame it for. Might as well try to blame WWI on animation cancelling...
Lol
Hes not alone in this crusade.
Ask ZoS for QA and see the results.
Even now we have 43vs47% on the forums. and we all know that most ppl who are against A/C dont even visit the forums.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/400620/do-you-want-zos-to-fix-animation-cancelling/p1
Dont act like you are majority.
Yes you are, in forums. You can keep A/C here, we dont mind.
Most of the forum users dont even play EsO so yea ..If you wanna slow the game down and be playing in cyro by yourself then ye lets remove ani cancel.
I almost fell asleep during that vid, too slow.
ALL the real players will leave if ani cancel gets removed as it will affect more than you understand.
Just for the records, Cyro was way more populated then.
Because game play was too slow and boring thats why Sypher is sweaty...
I can hear his brain working man.
And trust me, even now he can beat me, you and most of the pvp players we have atm.
Just admit that if pvp require brain work you will need to give up... (or woke up your brain and have actual fun)
Its more easy to spam 3 keys and die or win i agree.
And why the heck you mean by REAL players will leave?
Most/if not all/ of them already gone...
That poll is from over a year ago. A more recent shows 57% favor them, at least in part.
More importantly, if most forums users don't play, wouldn't that invalidate the forums poll you're submitting to support your claim?
As i said ask ZoS for QA and see the resultsrunkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »Most of the forum users dont even play EsO so yea ..
You just love to make stuff up, don't you?
You dont like the truth?
Is they saying it, not me.
Aks/blame themEdited by Runkorko on September 20, 2019 8:36PM0 -
Runkorko✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sanguinor2 wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »
Hes not alone in this crusade.
Ask ZoS for QA and see the results.
Even now we have 43vs47% on the forums. and we all know that most ppl who are against A/C dont even visit the forums.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/400620/do-you-want-zos-to-fix-animation-cancelling/p1
Dont act like you are majority.
Yes you are, in forums. You can keep A/C here, we dont mind.
Most of the forum users dont even play EsO so yea ..
Since someone has to do this everywhere a poll gets used for something I might aswell be the one to tell you: This poll is completely irrelevant. Forum Population is already Pretty small compared to game Population and the amount of Forum People caring to vote About this is even smaller. Also sample size is way too small to draw any relevant conclusions beyond X People voted Y so yeah. And you have no way of knowing how the majority of People see it that dont frequent the Forums unless you got Zos statistics somehow.runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »Just for the records, Cyro was way more populated then.
Because game play was too slow and boring thats why Sypher is sweaty...
I can hear his brain working man.
And trust me, even now he can beat me, you and most of the pvp players we have atm.
Just admit that if pvp require brain work you will need to give up... (or woke up your brain and have actual fun)
Its more easy to spam 3 keys and die or win i agree.
And why the heck you mean by REAL players will leave?
Most/if not all/ of them already gone...
Wanna know why cyro was more populated then? It was because the Servers actually supported a larger Population since very much was done clientside instead of serverside. Remember Zazeer? That was a not so Pleasant side effect of Clientside calculations. Lighting patch also happened and the rest is history. So yeah LA weaving/Animation cancelling played barely any part in that.
So you want to tell me there are no macro and script users and Cyro and they /as a/c spam/ dont harm server performance?
"Since someone has to do this everywhere a poll gets used for something I might aswell be the one to tell you: This poll is completely irrelevant. Forum Population is already Pretty small compared to game Population and the amount of Forum People caring to vote About this is even smaller. "
And yet you are here to defend smth whos destined to go away...
You guys are like "trolls on patrol"
Haunthing such threads, provoking ppls, so ZoS have reason to close them asap instead of adresing the problem ...
I see. It works. But wont work forever you know
GCD is 1 skill every 0.99 second, it will still be the same amount of aoe spam with ani cancel removed.
I don't know what any of that means, just tell me your reason you want ani cancel removed and the effect you think it will have on the game.
Also what platform / server do you play on.
I dont need to give you my "addres"
I`m here from the start and i know how fun and fluid pvp was before we get this crap.
Go try convice someone else. You dont want to debate, you want to defend whats suits you at all cost. Even if that cost is the performance of the game.
Why you think zos run from a to z every update.
If you cant see yourself, i wont be the one who will open your eyes
Edited by Runkorko on September 20, 2019 8:43PM2