Biting Jabs Not Scaling with Master At Arms Champion Points

Emasculate · September 2019

This video is pretty efficient at showing what is happening

http://https://youtu.be/Gm02f8IRdpo[/url]

Emasculate · September 2019

With Jab's being converted to a Direct Damage Ability it should now scale appropriately with the corresponding Champion Points*

TheNightflame · September 2019

bumping this for relevance, nice work testing

OlumoGarbag · September 2019

They also dont proc sets that say "when you deal direct dmg" like mechanical

Epicasballs · September 2019

OlumoGarbag wrote: »

They also dont proc sets that say "when you deal direct dmg" like mechanical

Not true entirely. It procs selene's... and valkyn skoria. But not affected by deadly strikes despite scaling with thuam. Sweeps has been a confussed skill for years.

TheNightflame · September 2019

proc mech acuity?

Emasculate · September 2019

The new set im testing right now, dragonguard elite, is not proccing with jabs either.

Emasculate · September 2019

Earlier I stated that Jabs wasn't proccing the Dragonguard set, but that was misinformation and I apologize, it is proccing that set, however the set is not giving the corresponding weapon critical rating to the character sheet

virtus753 · September 2019

Is it still scaling with Thaumaturge, then? Or not with either?

Vapirko · September 2019

virtus753 wrote: »

Is it still scaling with Thaumaturge, then? Or not with either?

I believe not with either. This is definitely an oversight/bug.

virtus753 · September 2019

Vapirko wrote: »

virtus753 wrote: »

Is it still scaling with Thaumaturge, then? Or not with either?

I believe not with either. This is definitely an oversight/bug.

Thank you. That's a big oversight for devs who went on air saying "templar dps needed some love."

Vapirko · September 2019

virtus753 wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

virtus753 wrote: »

Is it still scaling with Thaumaturge, then? Or not with either?

I believe not with either. This is definitely an oversight/bug.

Thank you. That's a big oversight for devs who went on air saying "templar dps needed some love."

It really shouldn’t be scaling with Thaum anymore that’s fine. It’s direct damage now. I’m sure they’ll address this in one of the PTS updates. I’ll just tag a few people here because why not this should be prioritized.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_Gilliam

Nordic__Knights · September 2019

Vapirko wrote: »

virtus753 wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

virtus753 wrote: »

Is it still scaling with Thaumaturge, then? Or not with either?

I believe not with either. This is definitely an oversight/bug.

Thank you. That's a big oversight for devs who went on air saying "templar dps needed some love."

It really shouldn’t be scaling with Thaum anymore that’s fine. It’s direct damage now. I’m sure they’ll address this in one of the PTS updates. I’ll just tag a few people here because why not this should be prioritized.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler @ZOS_Gilliam

Tell me what better testing can you get it's a video it shows 100% guaranteed it's not working as intended

Emasculate · September 2019

The ability is still scaling with Thaumaturge, and not scaling with Master At Arms. Even though the ability is supposed to be classified as a direct damage ability and not "double dipping".

technohic · September 2019

Master at Arms is not buffing jabs/sweeps but Thaum is. Tootips meanwhile show Master at Arms buffing it and Thaum not

Tooltip

https://youtu.be/O8EU_lIFmis

Reality

https://youtu.be/5EEWeY4ETCw

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Emasculate · September 2019

I didn't add Thaum brotherman, I only added Master at Arms, but my statement still holds true. I did not try Puncturing Strikes yet either to see if that skill is appropriately scaling as well.

danno8 · September 2019

This is pretty typical when they change skill damage classifications. CP don't do the right thing, gear sets don't proc properly, I wouldn't be surprised if things that proc with "critical DD" and "critical DoT" are messed up and reversed as well. They are at least pretty good with fixing them within the PTS schedule as long as they are posted and /bug in game.

Emasculate · September 2019

I definitely try to report as much as I can with video proof, but some times it gets eclipsed by a lot of complaining instead of constructive feedback unfortunately.

danno8 · September 2019

I can also confirm that Puncturing Sweeps damage does not scale with adding to Master at Arms, only the tooltip changes.

Once again confirming that you should never trust tooltips alone.

Casterial · September 2019

Technically this means jabs are weaker now to since it only scales off mighty/thau and not arms.

Hopefully they fix this since we live Thau

Vapirko · September 2019

I just tested this for myself and MaA is buffing jabs for me. It’s a mild nerf overall even with 72 points into it but only by like 50 damage. You can make up for it. HOWEVER. I think something is wrong with the scaling. Unbuffed I’ve got 3052 damage from jabs. With 72 point into MaA I’ve got 3661. Idk how this calculates but it seems to low? If someone smarter than me with this stuff knows please do tell. Like maybe MaA doesn’t account for certain modifiers.

Emasculate · September 2019

Are you just looking at tool tip? Test the actual damage.

JusticeSouldier · September 2019

if they didn't like it's hybrid form - than this should be converted to Rapid Strikes like thing.
it's channeling...

butterrum222 · September 2019

It might be the burning light passive that procs certain sets, to be sure one should remove this passive when testing.

Emasculate · September 2019

Yeah im testing that now as well, removing burning light and testing different sets, and reporting which sets are not currently being applied.

Nemesis7884 · September 2019

i am truly amazed that this is happening constantly...zos saying they changed to direct d. or dot or whatever and then it doesnt work??

same with the set that should stack crir if u atrack from the front but does so when u attack from the back....

IS NO ONE TESTING THESE THINGS???? is no one talking to each other??

this happens SO often! The level of incompetence, lazyness, lack of responsibility and sheer disrespect for customers is MIND BOGGLING.

In any other sector you wouldnt be employed if you consistently displayed this level of work ethic.

If you ever wonder why things are as they are? Because zos employees demonstratively stopped givibg a ****.

Emasculate · September 2019

I understand your frustration dude, *** does bum you out, but I just have hope things will get better. I've been to a lot of other games and the industry as a whole is not looking to spicy, ESO has the best community, and some of the best people i've ever met, so I will stay until they are gone. I know this is off topic from the original discussion, but im going to keep assisting and testing things and reporting them hopefully leading them to be fixed.

Vapirko · September 2019

Emasculate wrote: »

Are you just looking at tool tip? Test the actual damage.

Oh yep, sorry. Just jumped on PTS and you're absolutely right. The tooltip shows the value but that is not reflected in the actual damage. That might help explain why dueling was such a *** yesterday.

Emasculate · September 2019

Yeah man, that's why i'm trying to test as much as I possibly can to help the devs out here, they got a lot of stuff going on and a lot of issues to sort through and changes to make, so I'm trying to get the actual bugs noticed instead of just complaining.

Casterial · September 2019

It scales off Master not Thaumaturge. It's just a minor nerf by like 50 damage.

Emasculate · September 2019

@Casterial Test the damage, not the tooltip.