Biased poll is biased,

I don’t like the poll options.

I will seek to adapt and switch out skills that look like they will no longer be worth it such as rending slash. I may take a break from dungeons as DPS but will continue with my healer and when I feel comfortable with my skills, as DPS again as well. And yes, I do also enjoy additional aspects of the game, such as questing, exploration and housing.

I’ll keep making 1 million gold every 20 days doing basic crafting writs while testing out my 18 characters to see if they are still viable in Vet content.

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Kadoin wrote: »

It's not as bad as people think...However, they really missed the mark in some cases.

50% general DPS nerf is not as bad as people think? I don't think that ever happened in any game

I bet it's more like 35%. Light attacks weren't touched, and AoE DoTs took less than a 50% hit.

Thats in line with the PTS parses I've seen (forums and a trials guild discord). It's still a huge drop and would mean a huge setback for people who are progressing.

FrancisCrawford wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

Kadoin wrote: »

It's not as bad as people think...However, they really missed the mark in some cases.

50% general DPS nerf is not as bad as people think? I don't think that ever happened in any game

I bet it's more like 35%. Light attacks weren't touched, and AoE DoTs took less than a 50% hit.

Yeah could be, still devestating

I'm looking forward to it. I won't feel so rushed all the time, and won't get killed so quickly. Sounds good. 😉

Other option: Keep playing how I was going to play anyways? I haven’t updated my main (stamblade) to the meta since they nerfed it during Scalebreaker. It still runs through content easy, just has slightly less impressive numbers in vet raids. Content will still be doable after this patch, it will likely just have less pretty numbers attached to it. And honestly the way my toon is currently set up, this might even give it a comparative advantage to other classes from where it was before.

Character progression in this game is tied to patch updates somehow (which is wrong, but since cp is a really bad progression system...).. if you let people feel stronger and next patch weaker... people obviously will be mad.

But who cares true endgame is fashion

I’m just going to take a break eso hasn’t really been fun for me since my nb was gutted anyways.

biminirwb17_ESO wrote: »

Surprise attack still hits for 43k from stealth all is well.

Doubt lol

Grandma wrote: »

if they genuinely go live like this, yeah i'm quitting and playing wow classic. when they bated us with that fake-ass "class identity" they promised with dragonhold, stamdks getting a spammable and wardens becoming bis healers is NOT what i had in mind. new gameplay elements my entire ass. It was stupid of me to assume they would have any idea about how class identity should work.

then wow classic, a game that's almost 20 years old, had a better idea for how class balance should work and made each one feel like an entirely new game to play, with different gameplay styles, different unique buffs and utility they bring to the group, each one has its own service every other class begs them for, it's so easy to make friends because everyone wants you in their group for your class.

ESO is the polar opposite. unless you're a nondk tank, nobody cares. every class is the same. the only difference is just visuals, because every rotation is the same, all the skills are the same [some have different colors], all the DPS is the same. necro has major vuln, which makes them stand out, and now that's getting nerfed a bit. it's a sad state.

it also doesn't help that zos's idea of "balance" is just wildly destroying everything in the hopes that it'll balance something. nerfing skills by 33% in scalebreaker and then AGAIN by 60% in dragonhold? it's laughable, honestly. what a shithole.

Okay, you have a decent point here with the rotation homogenization concerning the relationship of weapon abilities to certain specs in ESO, but I'm genuinely flabberghasted that you said WoW Classic has good class balance LOL. Are you talking about the same Classic/Vanilla WoW that that was actually infamous for having a couple metas and then the forgotten specs that couldn't complete basic game content?

At least in ESO, even if you're playing an underperforming class, you can still play through the game. You can still effectively complete overland content, run normal dungeons (perhaps even some vets), explore, and enjoy the content.

Whether people agree or disagree with the changes, the hyperbolic response does nothing but make opinions look illegitimate.

If you want to actually think about what lessons ZOS could take away from Classic, it could be that adding things like class-specific armor sets and class quests adds to a sense of identity.

However, in ESO, you're going to run into a problem with that style of thinking because the point of the classes in ESO is customization. You can play anything you want, any which way. Want to be a sword wielding sorceror? Great, do it. A healing assassin? You can do that too. So then you have to start thinking, how will you create a specific identity around something that can be so many different things? Will that impact player class-customization choices?

These damage changes are only furthering that philosophy - to let the players do what they want. ESO fulfills a niche in the MMO market with its customization and it's important not to underestimate how genuinely beloved it is for exactly that reason. There's definitely some room for improvement with allowing more choices for what abilities you put on your bars, but from what I understand after watching the livestream, that seems to be the end goal here.