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New Moon Acolyte - New meta confirmed?
amir412
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New Moon Acolyte
2 – 833 Weapon and Spell Critical
3 – 129 Weapon and Spell Damage
4 – 1487 Physical and Spell Penetration
5 – Adds 481 Weapon and Spell Damage. Increase the cost of your active abilities by 5%.
This set will kill all viable weapon damage oriented sets for stamina builds,
Why would i run Fury/ Seventh/ Truth/ Hundings over this? Couldn't find a single reason.
5% cost increase (that can easily be neglected) for perma FULL STACKED FURY is not ok.
2 – 833 Weapon and Spell Critical
3 – 129 Weapon and Spell Damage
4 – 1487 Physical and Spell Penetration
5 – Adds 481 Weapon and Spell Damage. Increase the cost of your active abilities by 5%.
This set will kill all viable weapon damage oriented sets for stamina builds,
Why would i run Fury/ Seventh/ Truth/ Hundings over this? Couldn't find a single reason.
5% cost increase (that can easily be neglected) for perma FULL STACKED FURY is not ok.
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Red_Feather✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭That set worries me because it outshines so many existing sets for just pure dps.
What if it lowered health for a real penalty?8 -
Skullstachio✭✭✭✭✭Yeah, and stack it with the molag Kena Monster set and there you have it. (Pair new moons acolyte with the seducer set and the cost increase is easily circumvented.)If you see me anywhere. Know that I am sitting back with a bag of popcorn, watching as ESO burns the goodwill of its player base with practices that only disrespects the players time like it did to me and many others...
If a game does not respect your time, best thing to do is move on from it and find something else.1 -
chrightt✭✭✭✭Well, I can. Typically, let us assume no CP first, you can probably get around 28k stam with 2.8k weapon damage easily on a medium armor set lets say (unbuffed because buffs are % multiplier). So, an increase of 182 weapon damage compared with hunding's rage vs JUST weapon damage is 182*1.15 (medium armor buff) = 209.
209/2800 is a 7.46% increase in weapon damage. Keep in mind that damage is calculated off both weapon damage and stamina so the actual increase in damage output is less than 7.46%. This is also a stam build for the weapon damage multiplier. Therefore, it is strictly a burst based set because on the long run you'll end up running out of stam much quicker with the 5% increase in cost so your sustained DPS is actually less. I believe this 5% ALSO applies to ultimates so that is another slight detriment. Furthermore, this is only assuming a mediocre weapon damage build that only sits at 2.8k. The higher the weapon damage/stamina you have the weaker a marginal increase in damage is.
Overall, this seems like a good set for medium armor burst builds, but is it strictly better in all situations? Probably. Is it probably a bit overtuned? Likely. I can see them dropping it to 450.2 -
amir412✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's not only the perma 500 wep dmg for little cost increase, the other bonuses are crazy good.3 -
brandonv516✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I'm pretty sure the new set that offers a flat 20% movement speed increase on a 5 piece just for casting a shield, will eventually be an equally controversial topic.
There's going to be lots of fast Wizards running around lol!8 -
amir412✭✭✭✭✭
✭brandonv516 wrote: »I'm pretty sure the new set that offers a flat 20% movement speed increase on a 5 piece just for casting a shield, will eventually be an equally controversial topic.
There's going to be lots of fast Wizards running around lol!
Don't forget the snare immunity as well.0 -
Urzigurumash✭✭✭✭✭
✭I say leave it
Crafted Set Meta, the end of the Transmute Crystal era
Hail to he replete with ChromiumXbox NA AD / Day 1 ScrubDK / Wood Orc Cuisine Enthusiast12 -
DreadDaedroth✭✭✭✭✭
✭Leave it as it is.
This set is the reason they nerfed fury,7th, veiled (this one is the worst of them all).
''And with the coming of the dragons, the old will fall by the hand of the new.''Edited by DreadDaedroth on September 16, 2019 10:59PM4 -
DocFrost72✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I don't get the itemization of this set at all.
481 with no conditions; 5% cost increase
498 with conditions: 20% cost increase (kena)
This set will get nerfed in PTS cycle, mark my words.8 -
Urzigurumash✭✭✭✭✭
✭DocFrost72 wrote: »Why would i run Fury/ Seventh/ Truth/ Hundings over this? Couldn't find a single reason.
With the ruinous change to Dizzying Swing, can you beat Truth plus New Moon on a 2h user?
Xbox NA AD / Day 1 ScrubDK / Wood Orc Cuisine Enthusiast0 -
Lokey0024✭✭✭✭✭Drooling for it already. I'm guessing it will make it out with 400ish, like a 9 trait AxionEdited by Lokey0024 on September 16, 2019 11:16PM0 -
SodanTok✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭DocFrost72 wrote: »I don't get the itemization of this set at all.
481 with no conditions; 5% cost increase
498 with conditions: 20% cost increase (kena)
This set will get nerfed in PTS cycle, mark my words.
2pc, 5pc?1 -
Zulera301✭✭✭✭✭Urzigurumash wrote: »I say leave it
Crafted Set Meta, the end of the Transmute Crystal era
Hail to he replete with Chromium
I second this.Shortly after the formation of the Ebonheart Pact, a Nord woman was given a tour of the Tribunal Temple. When later asked about the experience, she seemed upset. Suffice to say, the Dunmer were not pleased to hear this, and thus they inquired further.
"Well," the Nord frowned, "the priests were very angry and unwelcoming. They kept shouting things at me like "you can't drink that mead in here!" and "somebody stop her, she's running naked!" and "we can't catch her; she's covered in grease!""1 -
WrathOfInnos✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I’m not impressed TBH. The 5% cost increase will require at least one jewelry enchant changed from 174 weapon/spell damage to 169 mag/stam recovery. Take that 174 off the 481 and you’re left with effectively 307 on the 5pc, closely balanced with Hundings and Julianos.
I guess it could make for a decent burst set in PVP for stam, but on Mag I don’t see this being better than Spell Strat (500 Spell damage in the 5pc that also carries over to the back bar for 5s). And in PVE the 1487 Spell Penetration in nearly useless in optimized raid groups.7 -
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I think you are correct, except in that it is not a "decent" burst set for StamPvP, but the single best, probably.Xbox NA AD / Day 1 ScrubDK / Wood Orc Cuisine Enthusiast1 -
Calm_Fury✭✭✭✭✭Did anyone actually tested this before complaining?
Every patch people cry about OP sets from reading the patch notes, then other people go and actually test and see that it is not as bad/good as it reads in text.
So, again, did you already had a change to go and test the set?5 -
Calm_Fury✭✭✭✭✭Don't forget that almost every other skill got a cost increase, so those 5% might hurt a lot more than it looks.3
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SodanTok✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭People were using Marksman just for the 5% cost reduction not so many patches ago and now 5% increase on cost of all abilities (possibly even ulti) is worth brushing over in one sentence of hysteria post?6 -
ESO_Nightingale✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭goldenarcher1 wrote: »Yeah,the 481 weapon/spell damage needs to be dialled back a bit.
Why? It's got a drawback.PvE Frost Warden Main and teacher. Come Join the ESO Frost Discord to discuss everything frost!: https://discord.gg/5PT3rQX
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twitch_zero✭✭✭Its the 1st round of PTS it will be nerfed like Soldier of Anguish and Drozarkers were nerfed into uselessness2
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MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It's certainly VERY strong in terms of stats (it's much stronger than sets like SS and BSW).
We'll see how viable it is during testing though. If the 5% cost increase isn't a hindrance, it'll need to be dialled back a bit.Edited by MLGProPlayer on September 17, 2019 2:12AM0 -
Juhasow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The cost increase needs to be higher to balance it out. Maybe 10%.
It requires to be tested the way it is 1st. Dont forget costs of many abilities also went up with some of them by a lot so we need to 1st check will we be able to sustain without that set to even start thinking will we be able to sustain with it.Edited by Juhasow on September 17, 2019 4:56AM3 -
Chelo✭✭✭✭✭New Moon Acolyte
2 – 833 Weapon and Spell Critical
3 – 129 Weapon and Spell Damage
4 – 1487 Physical and Spell Penetration
5 – Adds 481 Weapon and Spell Damage. Increase the cost of your active abilities by 5%.
This set will kill all viable weapon damage oriented sets for stamina builds,
Why would i run Fury/ Seventh/ Truth/ Hundings over this? Couldn't find a single reason.
5% cost increase (that can easily be neglected) for perma FULL STACKED FURY is not ok.
That 5% also affect Roll Dodge, Block and Break Free... Just to put that in context too... And Ultimates... Basically anything that is "active".Edited by Chelo on September 17, 2019 4:40AM5 -
Drdeath20✭✭✭✭✭
✭5% cost increase on ultimates is not a big deal.
Set might be a bit overtuned. Probably will need % of cost increased by 10%.
On a side note, they really need to adjust the duration of molag kena to 8 seconds minimum. 6 is just too short with all things considered.3 -
TheNightflame✭✭✭✭✭I think WoI already touched on this, but the cost increase is the equivalent of switching a spell damage enchant to a cost reduction enchant (or 2) which in turn negates the extra damage vs juli and hunds
the set is fine7
