I just wanna be able to feel like my new characters are ACTUALLY new characters (low level) and for quest bosses to ACTUALLY feel like bosses. It only works if you never put points into CP, play with level 1 gear, and never unlock skills which is NO way to play the game.

Vhozek wrote: »

I just wanna be able to feel like my new characters are ACTUALLY new characters (low level) and for quest bosses to ACTUALLY feel like bosses. It only works if you never put points into CP, play with level 1 gear, and never unlock skills which is NO way to play the game.

Ageed 100% .. making myself bad just to have some challenge Is not fun at all

martygod12 wrote: »

All those voting no .. you do realize that if the overland content Is enough challenge for you you can still play normal non veteran zones? The veteran zones will be only for those wanting some extra challenge

I voted I Don't Care, if that makes you feel better.

martygod12 wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

I'm not interested in a repeat of Skyrim's Legendary mode with more damage and more health. That's boring.

New enemies, more enemies, new AI, and new tactics would be lovely. Is ZOS going to put in the time and effort to do that? Hah. I wish.

So, it depends.

Well It still not as boring as killing everything (includind bosses) in less then 4-5 seconds.

It Is a shame really, because lot of the quest are actually really good, but that stupidly low difficulty makes them still somehow boring.

See, I think its worse. Killing everything quickly isn't exciting, but at least its over quickly. Killing the same enemies over a longer period of time is just tedious. It doesn't add to the difficulty in any way, it just takes longer. Boring.

If I'm going to get a Veteran Difficulty zone, I'd like it to be actually difficult, not the same old stuff recycled that takes a longer to kill.

For anyone who remembers Pre-One Tamriel Craglorn, I want something more akin to that, done properly.

VaranisArano wrote: »

martygod12 wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

I'm not interested in a repeat of Skyrim's Legendary mode with more damage and more health. That's boring.

New enemies, more enemies, new AI, and new tactics would be lovely. Is ZOS going to put in the time and effort to do that? Hah. I wish.

So, it depends.

Well It still not as boring as killing everything (includind bosses) in less then 4-5 seconds.

It Is a shame really, because lot of the quest are actually really good, but that stupidly low difficulty makes them still somehow boring.

See, I think its worse. Killing everything quickly isn't exciting, but at least its over quickly. Killing the same enemies over a longer period of time is just tedious. It doesn't add to the difficulty in any way, it just takes longer. Boring.

If I'm going to get a Veteran Difficulty zone, I'd like it to be actually difficult, not the same old stuff recycled that takes a longer to kill.

For anyone who remembers Pre-One Tamriel Craglorn, I want something more akin to that, done properly.

Well then there needs to be some difficulty scalling with your character after cp160 So it Is still challenging.

Reverb wrote: »

We used to have those, they were pretty much empty. Before One Tamriel the zones were leveled and the Caldwell’s Silver and Gold zones were vet rank difficulty. Craglorn was also vet difficulty and upper Crag was the most challenging overland content in the game.

But there was very little interest in the higher difficulty content. The vet zones were empty and the forums were filled with begging to nerf Crag until they finally did.

Just like how tons of people farm normal trials but very few do vet ones, and every week there’s a new thread asking to remove DLC dungeons from the randoms, and people still cry to nerf VMA more, and beg for a safe version of Cyrodil and IC so there’s no risk. The vast majority of players want their content face roll easy, and they want it spoonfed to them. Zeni knows this, and won’t waste development effort on the small number of players who claim otherwise.

Ok I can see your point. So how about making the vet zones where the mob remains the same and only the bosses Will be stronger with better loot.

See it Is not the weak mob that Is bothering me. It Is the weak bosses which are irritating me, especially after they Are often being described as extremely powerfull demigods in the quests and then they are weak as mudcrabs and dead after three strikes.

I don't know how this could be actually Fun for Somebody. This Is totally immersion braking,boring, ridiculous and absolutelly not rewarding at all

Wanted to vote no cliked yes by mistake

Didnt we had those until one tamriel? and werent them always empty?

Dark_Lord_Kuro wrote: »

Wanted to vote no cliked yes by mistake

Didnt we had those until one tamriel? and werent them always empty?

So seriously the overland at current state Is Fun for you?

Actually, I voted no because manpower, time, and resources aren't infinite. That means that what's needed to make the back end to allow for veteran zones that also impact delves and public dungeons, to make new and interesting monsters with new and interesting mechanics (because additional health and damage is boring), to come up with and implement new shinies (because if the content isn't rewarding enough, it's DoA), and to keep it all at a point people aren't going "It's too easy" once again when they get better and demand the veteran zones get harder, is going to have to be diverted from somewhere else, first in a ginormous outlay to cover all the zones already released and then every time they release a new zone. So players who aren't a fan of vet zones will in fact be impacted, contrary to popular claims, as they'll receive less to facilitate that new piece of the pie- a piece they don't even care about. For the company itself, it's also effort expended over and over again with limited gain. People are still going to blaze through the zones and never look back, because that's what happens with story zones. If they cut back on the content released with each DLC to facilitate making two versions of each map, the already-present complaints about lack of value would increase, as they would if they had to increase prices of the DLC to pay for more employees (provided Zeni let them do it).

To put it bluntly, the supposed benefits for the people in favor of it don't come remotely close to outweighing the definite costs to everyone. So, irrespective of my personal views about questing, difficulty, or group content, you're getting an emphatic no from me.

On a different note, I've got no idea why people think insulting, belittling, or attacking the character of those who disagree with them is going to accomplish anything positive or win people over to their side. It really doesn't.

No.

Jesus guys I am not saying it should be So hard that you Will need to group for every stupid quest. Is should be easy enough So you can solo it but it should not be definitely as easy as IT Is now. That way too easy.

Just make the bosses harder. Lets say somewhere between public dungeon bosses and starter zone world bosses that good? Hard enough to be a challenge yet still easy enough to solo it.

martygod12 wrote: »

Yes another poll about this .. we need it ASAP .. ok try to write also a reason why Are you voting yes or no

We need it. This game's landscape content has become far too easy for Veteran Players and adding an optional Veteran Zone for players looking for more of a challenge while they quest and explore would be the best way to to handle it in my opinion. So long as it's optional - I really don't see why anyone should oppose this.