probabkyravi wrote: »

Animation cancel causes lag, its a fact, get over it.

It needs a rethink by devs, no hurry, no diss, no beef.

Chill and play and be nice.

If it's a fact, link your evidence or dev comment stating such. I'd love to read it. Otherwise, it's hyperbole.

Animation cancelling increases the number of actions from 1 per second to a whopping 2 per second!! No amount of macroing is going to give you more than that. That's not the reason for the lag. Set and skill procs, or ticks from over-time abilities, are many times more numerous than a light attack -> skill or block or bash or bar swap combo.

As usual, some clarification is needed here. Animation cancelling doesn't let you to throw 3-4 abilities in one second, you can't do this because there's a GCD (Global Cooldown).

The GCD in ESO is ~0.9 sec and it applied to all abilities, when you activate an ability the game starts to countdown the GCD and doesn't register another abilities you're trying to activate before the GCD is over.
GCD is not mutual to all abilities though. Block, bash and roll-dodge are not affected by the abilities' GCD, so even if you have activated an ability just a moment ago you're still able to use block, bash, roll-dodge, but abilities are still unable to register unless their GCD is over.

What about light attacks? Light attacks are working as abilities but they don't trigger the abilities' GCD. You can't cast more than 1 light attack within ~0.9 sec though, because there's a cooldown for light attacks as well, but it's separate from the GCD used for abilities. Hence you can cast an ability in between light attacks and a light attack between abilities as well.

So, what is the animation cancelling? There're two of them.

1. Light attack weaving. The thing is, you can cancel light attack animation by pressing an ability button right after the light attack. Since abilities and light attacks have their own separate GCDs, you can cast an ability this way, at it will cancel the light attack animation immediately but the strike/bolt of the light attack will be registered anyway. So, LA weaving is basically this: LA - ability- 0.9 sec GCD -LA - ability - 0.9 sec GCD...

2. Other animation cancelling.
It's basically canceling of the animation by using either block or bar swap. The thing here is, some abilities have animations with a duration a bit longer than GCD, say 1.2 sec, and you usually can't cast next ability before the animation of the previous ability is over, even if GCD is over already. And in this case block/bar swap animcanceling helps to end the previous ability animation faster, so you can cast next ability right after the GCD is over. Keep in mind that you still can't cast an ability before the GCD of the previous ability is over, you can just skip its animation only.

Why do we see those 3-4 ability effects flying to us from the same player in one second? It's because there was a lag, and your client didn't get those data packages at time, and then when the connection got stable again, your client have got those missed packages all together.

That's it.

Now to the topic.
Yeah, I agree. I believe the LA weaving is one of the reasons why we have a laggy combat, and by 'laggy' I mean real lags (ping spikes, server-client package exchange delays) and not framerate drops. There's a common thing in MMORPG communities when people say 'lag' when they actually mean 'frame rate drop', it leads to a lot of misconceptions.
With LA weaving we have 2 signals from a client to the server sent simultaneously (player casts a light attack and then skips its animation by casting an ability right away). It produces pretty much more load on the server than if we had abilities and LAs sharing the same GCD so it would have been just an LA or just an ability during the mutual GCD.
That's why 'old-school' MMORPGs had cooldowns and cast times by the way. Internet hasn't been fast back then and developers had to invent such systems to provide decent massive multiplayer experience and not overload Internet channels at the same time (on client side and on server side as well).
However, I have an other theory though. ESO servers might have been downgraded once or twice since the release. And don't forget that a lot of stuff has been added to the game during its lifetime, a lot of things have been reworked and changed which also might be the reason of downgraded server performance if the changes were not optimized well.

probabkyravi wrote: »

Go duel a dude exploiting 2 hand ani-cancel then come diss.

I guess yall scared for fix, by all the hate for thread.

Heh...the original Dev Team could not come up with a fix for AC
To fix it they would have to do a complete rewrite of the original code....ain’t gunna happen...if they did...it’d be called ESO2 available for purchase 2024!!!