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Zenimax/ZOS, we have to talk about the $15/month subscription...(Letter to the Developers)
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✭The current sub vs. non-sub is already more than fair. You have no idea how good you have it compared to other games with a similar model.3 -
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✭✭✭✭Between the terrible performance in all game aspects, ESO+ trials happening almost every month, and frequent Crown Sales, ESO+ really doesn't have much value to me. I have done the content. The house is full, though I really don't think Crown housing shouldn't be limited regardless. Costumes are dyed, but that doesn't mater because it's all about outfits anyway. Crafter is maxed. Champion Points are over the cap. Just seems like a waist anymore.2 -
idk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭They don't care. Why would they change their source of income when people still buy into it. It's a business and for them profits mean everything not the game or their consumers. Their past and present practices prove this. LOL
Yup.
ZOS 45m/ annual revenue
Zenimax Media 1/2bil annual revenue
@Wolfpaw what your sources for this? Interested in seeing it linked.
Google it, or I can link later, not going to be connected in a moment*. Not a secret, easy fine.
See, I am calling into question that you actually have reliable numbers. You might have someone's guess but that is just an estimate that may or may not be close to actuals. Further, without costs the revenue part is rather moot. Profit is the most important number and that is harder for 3rd parties to guess at.
Edit: Considering your numbers are guessing between 1 and 2 billion for Zenimax Media revenue that just drives home my point.Edited by idk on August 26, 2019 9:31PM2 -
They don't care. Why would they change their source of income when people still buy into it. It's a business and for them profits mean everything not the game or their consumers. Their past and present practices prove this. LOL
Yup.
ZOS 45m/ annual revenue
Zenimax Media 1/2bil annual revenue
@Wolfpaw what your sources for this? Interested in seeing it linked.
Google it, or I can link later, not going to be connected in a moment*. Not a secret, easy fine.
See, I am calling into question that you actually have reliable numbers. You might have someone's guess but that is just an estimate that may or may not be close to actuals. Further, without costs the revenue part is rather moot. Profit is the most important number and that is harder for 3rd parties to guess at.
Edit: Considering your numbers are guessing between 1 and 2 billion for Zenimax Media revenue that just drives home my point.
This one thinks they are trying to say Half a Billion.Leader Of The Children Of Razum Dar Guild (Khajiit Guild) on All 6 MegaServers
Khajiit Quote Of The Day.
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✭✭JusticeForJilarga wrote: »They don't care. Why would they change their source of income when people still buy into it. It's a business and for them profits mean everything not the game or their consumers. Their past and present practices prove this. LOL
Yup.
ZOS 45m/ annual revenue
Zenimax Media 1/2bil annual revenue
@Wolfpaw what your sources for this? Interested in seeing it linked.
Google it, or I can link later, not going to be connected in a moment*. Not a secret, easy fine.
See, I am calling into question that you actually have reliable numbers. You might have someone's guess but that is just an estimate that may or may not be close to actuals. Further, without costs the revenue part is rather moot. Profit is the most important number and that is harder for 3rd parties to guess at.
Edit: Considering your numbers are guessing between 1 and 2 billion for Zenimax Media revenue that just drives home my point.
This one thinks they are trying to say Half a Billion.
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nafensoriel✭✭✭✭✭JusticeForJilarga wrote: »If it's not a subscription then why is it in this ones list of subscriptions on Xbox?
Does the subscription in question prohibit access to the game?
Does the subscription in question give anything not available to purchase in other means?(remember craft bag really doesn't count)
Does not paying the subscription take away anything gained while under the subscription?(XP, Items, etc)
It does not. This one understands your confusion. This one is required to tell you that a "game subscription" is for "game access" in the terms of the OP. It means you can't access the game if you stop paying or you gain exclusive content by paying that is removed when you stop paying.
Legally what ESO+ is is a luxury upgrade to your service. You can subscribe to pay for that service. It does not in any way change the fact that ESO+ has no resemblance whatsoever to WoW or EVEs subscription models or models used in the past. So yes, while it can be a subscription it is not the subscription under discussion by the OP.
Side note to people who still believe the fallacy that "subs are predictable income". They are not. Subs are volatile as all heck for MMOs.
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Keledus✭✭✭Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »
Thriving and healthy? Well my circle of active ingame "friends" has diminished from over 200 just before Morrowind to just me now. I find it hard to think that level of player loss is anything even remotely on the same planet as "thriving and healthy".anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »Now let's tell the developers of a 5-year-old, thriving and increasingly healthy MMORPG how to do their job...
So which game are you talking about, because it sure ain't ESO.
Well, I was talking about ESO, as you may have guessed.
Are you going to argue that ESO isn't 5 years old ?
The "thriving and increasingly healthy" part may be more subjective, I base it on the number of players as felt in the game and the two solid, significant content updates we get EVERY YEAR since 2017 and going. That's a commercial success, no doubt.
Now you may disagree based on the performance issues, but if the number of players remains that high IN SPITE of said technical issues, it shows also that their commercial strategy is excellent.
Since OP's "lesson" is on the commercial aspect, I think it's appropriate to focus on ZOS' performance on the commercial side of things.
MMORPG's is a dying genre majority of youth these days that actually do play games prefer other genres or prefer mobile gaming. Even tho the subscription is on the expensive side and upfront cost to play the game I dont think it's all that bad it could've been so much worse if you compare ESO to other similar games on the market.
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Only applies to game which have no content. If you deliver solid content, the subs will stay and even grow.nafensoriel wrote: »[...]They are not. Subs are volatile as all heck for MMOs.1 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭nafensoriel wrote: »JusticeForJilarga wrote: »If it's not a subscription then why is it in this ones list of subscriptions on Xbox?
Does the subscription in question prohibit access to the game?
Does the subscription in question give anything not available to purchase in other means?(remember craft bag really doesn't count)
Does not paying the subscription take away anything gained while under the subscription?(XP, Items, etc)
It does not. This one understands your confusion. This one is required to tell you that a "game subscription" is for "game access" in the terms of the OP. It means you can't access the game if you stop paying or you gain exclusive content by paying that is removed when you stop paying.
Legally what ESO+ is is a luxury upgrade to your service. You can subscribe to pay for that service. It does not in any way change the fact that ESO+ has no resemblance whatsoever to WoW or EVEs subscription models or models used in the past. So yes, while it can be a subscription it is not the subscription under discussion by the OP.
Side note to people who still believe the fallacy that "subs are predictable income". They are not. Subs are volatile as all heck for MMOs.
Of course subscriptions are always subject to cancellation, but a 6 months or yearly subscription provides a more predictable income over 6 months or a year than e.g. a casual and random purchase of crowns.1 -
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✭✭The reason why ZoS removed the sub back then was that ESO was an unplayable mess and a running joke.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭JusticeForJilarga wrote: »They don't care. Why would they change their source of income when people still buy into it. It's a business and for them profits mean everything not the game or their consumers. Their past and present practices prove this. LOL
Yup.
ZOS 45m/ annual revenue
Zenimax Media 1/2bil annual revenue
@Wolfpaw what your sources for this? Interested in seeing it linked.
Google it, or I can link later, not going to be connected in a moment*. Not a secret, easy fine.
See, I am calling into question that you actually have reliable numbers. You might have someone's guess but that is just an estimate that may or may not be close to actuals. Further, without costs the revenue part is rather moot. Profit is the most important number and that is harder for 3rd parties to guess at.
Edit: Considering your numbers are guessing between 1 and 2 billion for Zenimax Media revenue that just drives home my point.
This one thinks they are trying to say Half a Billion.
1/2 B or not, it will be interesting to see where they get these numbers as they likely just someone's guess.
Not that it matters. It is rather moot. The market decides what something is worth and it is clear enough players think the 15 USD is worth it. Of course OP seems to prefer WoW and that probably says more about their preferences than the value of the subscription. If you want to sub you will pay what Zos says you will pay.1 -
Zorgon_The_Revenged✭✭✭✭✭I just watched someone play WOW, all they did was jump around......I hate the WOW jump animation.....it makes me want to punch kittens.2
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✭✭✭✭✭Facefister wrote: »The reason why ZoS removed the sub back then was that ESO was an unplayable mess and a running joke.
That would not make any sense. Granted, many players left due to the results of Matt Firor's amazing leadership in developing this product and we continue to see the results of his amazing vision for this game every day. Even more often if you DC constantly.
My guess, which has as much merit as yours, is that Zos planned for this all along if subscription numbers were not at some predetermined high level. It is not like they are pioneering this mixed business model.0 -
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✭✭JusticeForJilarga wrote: »They don't care. Why would they change their source of income when people still buy into it. It's a business and for them profits mean everything not the game or their consumers. Their past and present practices prove this. LOL
Yup.
ZOS 45m/ annual revenue
Zenimax Media 1/2bil annual revenue
@Wolfpaw what your sources for this? Interested in seeing it linked.
Google it, or I can link later, not going to be connected in a moment*. Not a secret, easy fine.
See, I am calling into question that you actually have reliable numbers. You might have someone's guess but that is just an estimate that may or may not be close to actuals. Further, without costs the revenue part is rather moot. Profit is the most important number and that is harder for 3rd parties to guess at.
Edit: Considering your numbers are guessing between 1 and 2 billion for Zenimax Media revenue that just drives home my point.
This one thinks they are trying to say Half a Billion.
1/2 B or not, it will be interesting to see where they get these numbers as they likely just someone's guess.
Not that it matters. It is rather moot. The market decides what something is worth and it is clear enough players think the 15 USD is worth it. Of course OP seems to prefer WoW and that probably says more about their preferences than the value of the subscription. If you want to sub you will pay what Zos says you will pay.
You're still going on about the numbers I threw out there?
Since you seem to enjoy this backnforth that a google search could answer, I got a game for you...
What does Wonder Woman, Trump, & The Iron Man have in common?
Search yourself, know where your money goes.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=T1WwfI_3H94 Edited by Wolfpaw on August 26, 2019 11:55PM2 -
Zorgon_The_Revenged wrote: »I just watched someone play WOW, all they did was jump around......I hate the WOW jump animation.....it makes me want to punch kittens.
*Runs*Leader Of The Children Of Razum Dar Guild (Khajiit Guild) on All 6 MegaServers
Khajiit Quote Of The Day.
"These useless senche could only kill a rat if they fell upon it. From a great height."2 -
Animal_Mother✭✭✭✭So let me get this straight...
I can pay $15/month to play WoW.
Or I can play ESO for free.
If I Subscribe to ESO for $15/month; I get to play and get all that stuff.HappyLittleTree wrote: »- Monthly crowns
- eso plus deals
- free stuff (even if they are just statuettes)
- extra exp
- faster research
- unlimited crafting material space
- extra bank space
- costume dying
- double housing space
- double transmutation crystals
- access to all dlc (not chapter)
It's just not worth it ZENIMAX get your S+*§ together (!)
So let me get this straight...
I can pay $15/month to play WoW. Just play WoW.
Or I can play ESO for free.
If I Subscribe to ESO for $15/month; I get to play and get all that stuff.
I'd say sign me up, but I've been subbed at ESO for a long time.Edited by Animal_Mother on August 27, 2019 12:38AM5 -
YaYaPineapple✭✭✭✭ESOplus sub is dirt cheap.
If you can't afford it, then don't sub. Find a hobby that you can afford considering your budget, or re-evaluate your life choices that lead you to not be able to afford 50 pennies per day.3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭JusticeForJilarga wrote: »They don't care. Why would they change their source of income when people still buy into it. It's a business and for them profits mean everything not the game or their consumers. Their past and present practices prove this. LOL
Yup.
ZOS 45m/ annual revenue
Zenimax Media 1/2bil annual revenue
@Wolfpaw what your sources for this? Interested in seeing it linked.
Google it, or I can link later, not going to be connected in a moment*. Not a secret, easy fine.
See, I am calling into question that you actually have reliable numbers. You might have someone's guess but that is just an estimate that may or may not be close to actuals. Further, without costs the revenue part is rather moot. Profit is the most important number and that is harder for 3rd parties to guess at.
Edit: Considering your numbers are guessing between 1 and 2 billion for Zenimax Media revenue that just drives home my point.
This one thinks they are trying to say Half a Billion.
1/2 B or not, it will be interesting to see where they get these numbers as they likely just someone's guess.
Not that it matters. It is rather moot. The market decides what something is worth and it is clear enough players think the 15 USD is worth it. Of course OP seems to prefer WoW and that probably says more about their preferences than the value of the subscription. If you want to sub you will pay what Zos says you will pay.
You're still going on about the numbers I threw out there?
Since you seem to enjoy this backnforth that a google search could answer, I got a game for you...
What does Wonder Woman, Trump, & The Iron Man have in common?
Search yourself, know where your money goes.
I did a search for Zenimax revenue and at least on the first page there was nothing obvious. I looked through some of the links provided and came up empty.
I can only imagine you are dodging actually answering the question because they are made up numbers or you know it is just someone guessing. If you have nothing, as it seems. just say so. Pretty much assuming they are made up numbers otherwise.Edited by idk on August 27, 2019 2:48AM4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Animal_Mother wrote: »So let me get this straight...
I can pay $15/month to play WoW.
Or I can play ESO for free.
If I Subscribe to ESO for $15/month; I get to play and get all that stuff.HappyLittleTree wrote: »- Monthly crowns
- eso plus deals
- free stuff (even if they are just statuettes)
- extra exp
- faster research
- unlimited crafting material space
- extra bank space
- costume dying
- double housing space
- double transmutation crystals
- access to all dlc (not chapter)
It's just not worth it ZENIMAX get your S+*§ together (!)
So let me get this straight...
I can pay $15/month to play WoW. Just play WoW.
Or I can play ESO for free.
If I Subscribe to ESO for $15/month; I get to play and get all that stuff.
I'd say sign me up, but I've been subbed at ESO for a long time.
Stop making sense.
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Bekkael✭✭✭✭✭GQManOfTheYear wrote: »I can go over each perk and how in sum, currently, they don't amount to the $15/month price tag ($11.67 if you get the 12-month subscription deal).
I'm baffled by the complaint, you get a sizeable discount on PC. There is no yearly option on Xbox, only monthly, and I pay $15.81 per month. Yes, that is tax added to the actual subscription price of $14.99. We get less on console and we pay more for it, but I am perfectly happy to pay, as it is my preferred platform for gaming. My sub adds greatly to my enjoyment of the game, (I like crafting, inventory management sucks, and I like to play dress-up) so I will continue to subscribe until I am ready to move on to something else.
15 bucks is 3 Starbucks coffees. I make my own coffee at home and sub to ESO. Gaming is a luxury to begin with, I'm not going to quibble over a few dollars when I'm mostly satisfied. Clearly, they need to improve performance and deal with server issues, but that's an entirely different discussion.
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✭GQManOfTheYear wrote: »A lot of you will not like what I'm about to say and that's fine, we can disagree.
Here's the TL;DR version: Zenimax/ZOS, your subscription is not worth $15/month. It can be, but it's not..
World of Warcraft charges $15/month to play. In a few days, a lot of people will resubscribe for the Classic version. Truthfully, their subscription is worth its price. ESO's isn't. People will get offended and triggered and enraged about what I'm saying, but we all like this game (and the community for the most part) and want it to continue increasing and being healthy. You don't spend hundreds of hours on a game that you don't enjoy or want to die.
I can go over each perk and how in sum, currently, they don't amount to the $15/month price tag ($11.67 if you get the 12-month subscription deal).
The fact that inventory space (including bank space and the crafting materials bag) is being advertised as a "perk" is ludicrous.
You've got to make it worthwhile to subscribe, or else, if somebody is looking for an MMORPG or tired of ESO and they see WoW as an option with a $15/month subscription containing a vast, colorful world, massive content, a favored fighting style, more defined and specialized classes, etc., versus an Elder Scrolls Online game that isn't any of those things (minus the massive content), they're going to choose WoW (especially with Classic coming out).
What's my solution? My solution is this:
I would play up the "individualism" aspect ("vanity," also, but then again, in sales, there are no ethics). What does "individualism" mean, and how will it make ESO money? In Stormwind (Alliance's capital), you have people loitering, showing off their unique gear and unique mounts and non-combat pets, etc., some of which can only be obtained from the store. Add to that, something that WoW does that ESO doesn't do well, is play up the fantasy aspect. They have mounts like the "Winged Guardian" and "Celestial Steed." They stretch the boundaries of the world. ESO on the other hand, has 10 different kinds of real-life horses (they're still horses). And yes, there are fantastical mounts in ESO, that's the kind of content that should continue to be made.
In anticipation of drafting this post, I asked people that played the game what they would like to be added to ESO Plus, and while they gave me mixed answers, some of the best included a free crate each week. One expressed that collectible statues was not adequate (and I 100% agree-who even thought that was a gift worth giving?). It's not hard or difficult to come up with even more ideas about how to make ESO Plus worthwhile. I put all of this together as a hobby (and, obviously, because I want to see the game grow). Put surveys out and see how you can make ESO Plus more favorable to players.
Finally, I don't know how financially lucrative furniture and houses are for the company, but if they're not a consequential part of the profits, then get rid of them. Gear/weapons, skins ("motifs"), mounts, costumes, etc. These are the content that people prefer and that the development team should focus their efforts, resources and time on.
Dude the amount of crowns alone is over 15 bucks, then the dlcs and bag, and small freebies we get. I mean come on its WAY more then you get for 15 bucks with most other mmos.IGN: Ki'rah
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✭✭✭✭✭Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »So your circle of "200 active game friends" is a reliable sample of the overall player population ?
Well as 99% of them were random sign-ups at the beginning, yes I do.
Do understand random selection and statistical analysis?
If you consider yourself as a human a reliable "random seeder" then you're the one who don't understand a thing about statistics. You're not a randomizer, you're a bias.
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✭✭✭✭✭Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »Now let's tell the developers of a 5-year-old, thriving and increasingly healthy MMORPG how to do their job...
So which game are you talking about, because it sure ain't ESO.
All The Best
Via the only sampling we have it does seem they are correct. While the Steam players are a small part of the PC community, the selection of them is not biased and looking at same month over same month of the previous year it shows a healthy increase each and every year.
BTW, Business analysis looks at same month over same month as a reliable demonstration of growth or decline.Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »Gandrhulf_Harbard wrote: »Thriving and healthy? Well my circle of active ingame "friends" has diminished from over 200 just before Morrowind to just me now. I find it hard to think that level of player loss is anything even remotely on the same planet as "thriving and healthy".
So your circle of "200 active game friends" is a reliable sample of the overall player population ?
Well as 99% of them were random sign-ups at the beginning, yes I do.
Do understand random selection and statistical analysis?
All The Best
The contacts all of us make in game are hardly a random selection as far as statistical analysis is concerned. If you are going to talk that then please get it right.
Edit: adding link to the Steam charts. https://steamcharts.com/app/306130Edited by idk on August 27, 2019 4:32PM1 -
Khrogo✭✭✭What makes me think that WoW isn’t the bed of roses that the OP makes it out to be? Maybe it’s because everyone wants to play a version of a game from 15 years ago when the same game still currently exists. This fact speaks for itself, no?2
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✭✭That sure nuf is a lotta typing for a TROLL post. There's a troll in the dungeon folks!0 -
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✭✭For many players housing is end game so your opinion isn't representative of the entire community that plays this game.(AD) Artim X/Xirtām/Måtrix |PC/NA| Casual staff wielding vampire sorcerer/templar/arcanistElectric-Stunhttps://media.giphy.com/media/Av0zcKH3i2BkaY1GXW/giphy.gif/https://c.tenor.com/jQHdFftrgwMAAAAC/tenor.gifElectric-Pets- Roleplay Damage Dealing Build.
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (infused/shock enchant), and Kinras's jewelry (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused/flame/weapon damage enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Boundless Storm, Mages' Wrath, Lightning Flood, Shocking Soul (Shock damage, Class Mastery Signature Script, and Empower), and Power Overload.
- Ability-Bar 2: Storm Pulsar, Streak, Shock Reach, Unstable Wall of Storms, Shocking Burst (Shock Damage, remove 1 negative effect, and interrupt) and Thunderous Rage.
Solo: Use Kinras's chest, replace Mora with Ring of the Pale Order, and use a heavy Slimcraw piece for max critical.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNHVjemwxZHI2ZmQ2bTg1ZG0xOTZ3b2QwajBzNGxmaHh6OXRpN3p6YSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/eBgWizk5dmZRS/giphy.gifElectric-Heal- Stress free one bar pet build .
- Gear: 5 Infallible Aether (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants. No chest piece), 1 medium Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, medium, Max Mag Enchants), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant ring and necklace (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant), Oakensoul ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant)
- Ability-Bar: Daedric Prey, Summon Volatile Familiar, Bound Armaments, Unstable Wall of Storms, Summon Twilight Matriarch, and Greater storm Atronach.
https://media.giphy.com/media/5ibGIHneWS6ek/giphy.gifElectric-Ward- My Healer Build.
- Gear: 5 Spell Power Cure (All apparel light and Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 Slimecraw Guise for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchants), Maelstrom's Perfected Lightning Staff (Charged/shock enchant), and Infallible Aether jewelry (arcane with spell damage enchant)/restoration staff (Powered with absorb magicka enchant). 1 Mora's Whispers.
- Ability-Bar 1: Power Surge, Boundless Storm, Blessing of Restoration, Energy Orb, Twilight Matriarch, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Dark Deal, Overflowing Altar, Elemental Drain, Blockade of Storms, Twilight Matriarch, and Aggressive Horn.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Wa0TGmtDvwW3e/giphy.gifElectric-Vamp- My Meme Tank Build that uses high resistance and variety of wards.
- Gear: 5 Brands of Imperium (All body pieces except Head and Shoulders, with Divine trait, and with Prismatic Defense Enchants), full Iceheart (1 light and 1 medium. Divines and Prismatic Enchant), and Combat Physician jewelry (bloodthirsty with Prismatic Recovery Enchants), Combat Physician restoration staff (Infused with hardening enchant), and combat physician ice staff (Infused with crusher enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Critical Surge, Bound Aegis, Deep Thoughts, Boundless Storm, Healing Ward, and Replenishing Barrier.
- Ability-Bar 2: Silver Leash (Elemental Drain if healer isn't running it), Bound Aegis, Frost Clench, Blockade of Frost, Empowered Ward, and Temporal Guard.
https://media.giphy.com/media/ukDQiYZzRAxMZKcK86/giphy.gifDawnfang- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (medium chest and body pieces light. All Impenetrable with Prismatic Enchants). Gaze of Sithis and 1 light Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton (light shoulders, and impenetrable with Prismtaic Enchants). Knight Slayer (Swift with spell damage enchant)/lightning staff (infused with oblivion enchant)/restoration staff (infused with oblivion enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Structured Entropy, Boundless Storm, Soul Splitting Trap, Radiating Regeneration, Healing Ward, and Life Giver.
- Ability-Bar 2: Drain Vigor (Elemental Susceptibility), Race Against Time, Rune Cage, Radiant Magelight, Regenerative Ward, and Shatter Soul.
https://media.tenor.com/ogWfvDdsqBIAAAAd/anime-black-clover.gifDuskfang- My casual one bar heavy attack Templar build that primarily utilizes Aedric Spear abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Puncturing Sweep, Aurora Javelin, Toppling Charge, Blazing Spear, Radiant Ward/Breath of life, and Crescent Sweep.
https://media.tenor.com/Jo8aG_ouy_oAAAAd/ac-odyssey.gifEye of the Queen- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Radiant Oppression, Race Against Time, Aurora Javelin, Breath of Life, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fd/44/1c/fd441c8242af6ec35ada94496feb0901.gifEye of the King- My casual one bar heavy attack Arcanist build that primarily utilizes Herald of the Tome abilities.
- Gear: 5 Noble Duelist (Head or Shoulder and body pieces except Chest. All body pieces Divines with Max Mag Enchants), 1 light Slimecraw for max spell critical (Divines, light, Max Mag Enchant), Lightning Staff of the Sergeant (precise/shock enchant), Sergeant's chest (Divines and max magicka enchant), and Sergeant's Mail jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (bloodthirsty with spell damage enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Pragmatic Fatecarver, Cephaliarch's Flail, Rune of Displacement, Inspired Scholarship/Evolving Runemend, and The Languid Eye.
https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExOTAzdjV1eTgwbDFmM3lrZmxuMXRqdDR3Y3h1ZDRpajR0M3VjZzQ3NSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/zXmbOaTpbY6mA/giphy.gifPvE Starter Gear- Tanky stage 4 vampire utility focused PvP healer that can take down very inexperienced players but is primarily focused on working alongside others in an organized group, PUGs, or zergs.
- Gear: 5 Torug's Pact (Heavy Chest with light Head, Waist, Hands, and Feet. All body pieces Impenetrable. Health enchant on chest/head/legs and everything else Prismatic Enchants), 1 Medium Mighty Chudan/Pirate Skeleton Shoulder (Impenetrable, Prismatic Enchant), Knight Slayer Restoration Staff (Infused/Decrease Health enchant), and Knight Slayer jewelry (One Ring and one Neck. Both Swift with spell damage enchant). 1 Oakensoul Ring (Swift with Spell Damage Enchant).
- Ability-Bar 1: Escalating Runeblades, Race Against Time, Rune of Uncanny Adoration, Evolving Runemend, Resolving Vigor, and Life Giver.
https://media.giphy.com/media/6CovzgyTig7M4/giphy.gifRace- Gear: 5 Law of Julianos (heavy chest, gloves/belt light, and the rest can be light or 1 medium piece if you're not wearing medium anywhere else on your body. All in training if grinding for XP or divines), Armor of the Seducer or Magnus' Gift head, shoulder, and staves (light with 1 medium piece if you are not already wearing 1 medium Julianos piece. All in training or divines. The staves should be training or infused), and 3 purple Willpower Jewelry with Arcane trait (can be bought from trading guilds for relatively cheap.
- Check tamrieltradecentre.com for the best deals if you're not using a price checking addon).
https://media.giphy.com/media/sdEkeWpiaGz0A/giphy.gifMundus Stones- High elf, since you will not have issues with sustain, but other mag based races are also fine so this is more of a personal choice.
https://media.giphy.com/media/cT3wMhLGQWdKU/giphy.gifCurrent Champion Points- PvP: The Steed for speed. Gotta go fast!
- PvE Healing/Damage: The Thief for decent crit rate.
- PvE Tanking: The Lady to get close to resistance cap.
https://media.giphy.com/media/l4FGDAx6u3hthMhgI/giphy.gifFavorite Foods and Potions- DPS: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Exploiter, Weapons Expert, Fighting Finesse, Master-at-Arms, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Healer Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Hope Infusion, Weapon's Expert, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- Tanky Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Ironclad, Enduring Resolve, Reinforced, Duelist's Rebuff, Bastion, Ward Master, Rejuvenation, Fortified.
- PvP Sorc: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, Occult Overload, Arcane Supremacy, Bastion, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
- PvP Temp/Arcanist: Shadowstrike/ Master Gatherer, Meticulous Disassembly/Plentiful Harvest, Steed's Blessing, Sustaining Shadows, Enlivening Overflow, Weapon's Expert, From the Brink, Arcane Supremacy, Celerity, Rejuvenation, Fortified, Boundless Vitality.
https://media.giphy.com/media/3otPoTggaYFNd1FdAI/giphy.gif- Parse Food for PvE:(DPS) Ghastly Eye Bowl (increases Max Magicka by 4592 and Magicka Recovery by 459 for 2 hours).
- Gold/Purple Food for Sorc PvP and Meme Tanking:(PvP) Clockwork Citrus Filet (increases Max Health by 3326, Health Recovery by 406 [useful if stage 1 vampire], Max Magicka by 3080, and Magicka Recovery by 338 for 2 hours). Witchmother's Potent Brew (Increase Max Magicka by 2856, Max Health by 3094, and Magicka Recovery by 315 for 2 hours.
- Trash Potions when feeling cheap: Regular CP150 Essence of Magicka pots that I obtain frequently from playing the game or Crown Tri-Restoration Potion obtained from dailies.
- Crafted Potions: Essence of Spell Critical (Bugloss, Lady's Smock, and Water Hyacinth). Without magelight this is my primary means of obtaining Major Prophecy on my Sorc, which increases my Spell Critical Rating. This also heals and restores magicka. Essence of Immovability (Columbine, Corn Flower, and Wormwood). I use this in PvP, since this gives me stealth detection, knockback immunity, and restores magicka (better to use it when competent allies are nearby, since it might reveal that you are surrounded by multiple players in stealth and you will not have an emergency pot available after use). Essence of Invisibility with only 2 ingredients (Blue Entoloma, Namira's Rot, Nirnroot, or Spider Egg). I use this in PvE content that requires stealth and if I need more speed I'll use Rapid Maneuver before using the potion. Essence of Invisibility with 3 ingredients (Blessed Thistle, Blue Entoloma, and Namira's Rot). Very useful in PvP alongside the vampire Dark Stalker passive, since you'll be invisible, ignore movement speed penalty while in Crouch, and you'll have a 30% movement speed boost from Major Expedition (I always have this slotted when riding from point A to B in PvP land, since gankers are always lurking). My templar/arcanist will mostly use Essence of Health (Tri-Stat Potion) Ingredients: (Mountain Flower, Columbine, and Bugloss).
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Ilithyania✭✭✭✭✭
IF WOW was so great, how come their Retail is dying compared to a 15 yr old verision of the same game ?
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Tsuriel✭✭✭Each to their own I'd say, but ZOS is using an old and dying market model. They should take note from Warframe and see how they're currently succeeding with a Free to Play game.0
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✭Never have and never will play WoW
Amen. WoW was a pile of poo when game out, and ever since. Sure had success, on the dumb drones who want to repeat the same task 100000000 times. And killed the MMORPG genre for the next 10 years almost, when everything that came out since, was a dumb clone.
Before WoW, MMORPGs were great and and different. UO, DAOC, EVE, SB, SWG, AO to name a few from 1997 onwards.
Then WoW came and we had gazillion clones of it, who miserably failed at the end.
Alas 2014 came with ESO, otherwise I would be still in EVE.1
