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Your opinion on succesful set combinations

festher
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I am just curious what people have succes’s using (gear only) for different classes. It dosent have to be bis og btb - thats interesting too but what you have had good succes running this patch :)

My stamblade 5M 1h 1m
2h/bow 5x briahheart and 5x spriggans 2x bloodspawn. Good damage but a little stamina hungry on bow bar

Magdk detro/s&b 5L 1h 1m
2x Bloodspawn 5x shacklebreaker 5x impregnable. Hard to kill and great sustane. I wanna try julianos on this with SB for more damage.
Edited by festher on August 5, 2019 8:31AM
  • kaithuzar
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    Best stamina set: fury
    Best mag set: bsw

    If you’re not doing those then you’re joining the Meta for bg’s:
    1 defensive set + 1 set that kills for you
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    kaithuzar wrote: »
    Best stamina set: fury
    Best mag set: bsw

    If you’re not doing those then you’re joining the Meta for bg’s:
    1 defensive set + 1 set that kills for you

    burning spellweave? The set is not really used much in PvP. I think bright-throat boast is the better choice there.
  • fred4
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    Melee magblade: Caluurion, Zaan, BTB, Breton, Steed mundus, all Swift, all magicka cost reduction, dual-regen drink (mag + stam), all prismatic enchants. Squishy af and not all that powerful, but high speed and no sustain issues makes for the most fun I've had on this character. Stamina - dodge roll - sustain on a magicka character is bliss and beats being tankier or having more magicka (better shields) in outnumbered situations. Not the best dueller, but effective in open world. I play mostly in CP. For no CP I am undecided between BTB and Shacklebreaker.
    Edited by fred4 on August 5, 2019 12:53PM
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  • festher
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    fred4 wrote: »
    As a more general note: Many sets are interchangeable. Amber Plasm and Shacklebreaker. Julianos, Overwhelming Surge, Spell Strategist, Spinner. BTB, Alfiq, Necropotence. Buffer of the Swift, Fortified Brass, Armor Master, Wizard's Riposte, Pariah, Impregnable. All things being equal, you won't feel much of a difference between the sets in each category. That said, if you are vampire you might like Pariah. If you are a vampire templar, you might like Cyrodiil's Light. If you like dodge rolls, you might like Well-Fitted Impregnable, and so on.

    Is there any reason behind a BTB ring costing 10 times the price of Afliq?
    They are very much alike and i dont see why recovery is increasing the value THAT much. Could get recovery in other ways while also having more magicka from alfiq

    Afliq adds 5.848 Magicka.
    BTB 4.192 magicka and 279 magicka recovery
    Edited by festher on August 5, 2019 8:42PM
  • fred4
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    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/427111/stat-based-armor-set-rankings

    BTB has a 5-piece effectiveness factor of 3. Alfiq only 2.33. BTB is objectively the better set, if you are building with a drink and are looking for some more magicka regen, which a lot of people do.

    The top sets are only marginally better than others, but they fetch 10x the price, because they are the only sets that min-maxers will go for, as well as every noob reading a web-site or watching a YouTube video.

    My own build is pretty extreme. Full Swift and Steed mundus for the speed, all cost reduction for out-of-combat cloak sustain, 2 proc sets with no regen, a heavy emphasis on casting Cloak and Race Against Time constantly. In my case only BTB fits the bill. I tried a bunch of other stuff. I used Deep Thoughts. BTB and Fisheye Rye allowed me to get rid of Deep Thoughts, opening up a spot on my back bar.

    It depends on your playstyle. If you are, for the sake of the argument, a shield-stacking pet sorc with a vMA front bar, you're better off with Alfiq (on the back bar, where the shields are) + Necropotence. You don't need sustain, since you made lightning heavies one of your primary attacks, and you want the maximum magicka for your shields. Such a build would probably also use Double Bloody Mara or tri-stat food. Such foods are more stat-efficient than drinks, e.g. Witchmother's. They objectively give you more stats. However, if you prefer building for mag-sustain, as many people do, and you feel you have enough stamina from using tri-stat glyphs and, perhaps, Triune jewelry (also very stat-efficient), then BTB is a good set.
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  • festher
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    fred4 wrote: »
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/427111/stat-based-armor-set-rankings

    BTB has a 5-piece effectiveness factor of 3. Alfiq only 2.33. BTB is objectively the better set, if you are building with a drink and are looking for some more magicka regen, which a lot of people do.

    The top sets are only marginally better than others, but they fetch 10x the price, because they are the only sets that min-maxers will go for, as well as every noob reading a web-site or watching a YouTube video.

    My own build is pretty extreme. Full Swift and Steed mundus for the speed, all cost reduction for out-of-combat cloak sustain, 2 proc sets with no regen, a heavy emphasis on casting Cloak and Race Against Time constantly. In my case only BTB fits the bill. I tried a bunch of other stuff. I used Deep Thoughts. BTB and Fisheye Rye allowed me to get rid of Deep Thoughts, opening up a spot on my back bar.

    It depends on your playstyle. If you are, for the sake of the argument, a shield-stacking pet sorc with a vMA front bar, you're better off with Alfiq (on the back bar, where the shields are) + Necropotence. You don't need sustain, since you made lightning heavies one of your primary attacks, and you want the maximum magicka for your shields. Such a build would probably also use Double Bloody Mara or tri-stat food. Such foods are more stat-efficient than drinks, e.g. Witchmother's. They objectively give you more stats. However, if you prefer building for mag-sustain, as many people do, and you feel you have enough stamina from using tri-stat glyphs and, perhaps, Triune jewelry (also very stat-efficient), then BTB is a good set.

    Im not sure i fully understand what you are pointing out on that link and numbers.
    Alfiq is a set with a flat constant resource of magicka. How can this not be a consistant value for all or most things you do, compared to BTB, where the recovery is only good if you dont have enough magicka?
  • Sergykid
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    you always use the recovery. From the first drain of magicka. For the whole fight you will use magicka to fight, recovery will be up 100% of the time, just like the max magicka. Crafty Alfiq is better if you have no sustain problems or you run a ganker or a glass cannon. Bright-Throat Boast is better for a brawler or a healer.

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  • aLi3nZ
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    Magika Sorc:
    PVE - Necro+BSW+LLAMBRIS. Weakness: Only around 1750 mag recovery so need ele drain running or healer running mag orbs if you want spam abilities
    PVP - Cryodill SpellStrat+Julianos+1 Pc ShadowFen+1Pc Molag Kena or Chokethorn if extra magregen required. Weakness: A bit squishy so gotta play smart and evade when required, great for bursting people down
    PVP Battlegrounds - Brightthroat+SpellStrat+PirateSkelly - I don't think there is a big weakness on this combination, its a tanky build with good damage.

    Edited by aLi3nZ on August 6, 2019 3:39PM
  • Iskiab
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    Sergykid wrote: »
    you always use the recovery. From the first drain of magicka. For the whole fight you will use magicka to fight, recovery will be up 100% of the time, just like the max magicka. Crafty Alfiq is better if you have no sustain problems or you run a ganker or a glass cannon. Bright-Throat Boast is better for a brawler or a healer.

    I’d say a big WAS better. Any build running a drink instead of food is at a disadvantage.

    I’d say Longfin pasty whatever is the baseline, if you go BTB and spring loaded or witchmother’s you’re at a disadvantage for max stats.

    The way they’ve budgeted all the sets/drinks/foods makes all the sets that give magicka and stam amazing in pvp. I’d take advantage.
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  • fred4
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    If you're running Longfin, what enchants do you have on your gear? All magicka? All stamina? Cause, if you're doing that, you could also go with Prismatic enchants, Spring-Loaded Infusion and BTB. Might even end up ahead. Haven't done the math, but just saying.
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  • Metemsycosis
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    Yeah on the one im using (necro/crafty) btb is def better if i am using drinks. On that build tho i run trifood and 3 wellfitted. I found with 12k stamina i cant dodge and block enough to cc break.

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  • BaByDontHurtMe
    I think building for the future and all great stuff about Bright Throats, I think more than ever magicka players will need to consider more stamina numbers.

    Stamina will be a bigger impact for magicka users next patch with more people testing and some groups running new circle of protection fear followed by root. So a possible scenario could possible be breaking free into a roll dodge to avoid ulti dumps more frequently.

    Sure you can bubble up quickly and Sorcs unblockable streak will come in handy but for mag classes with less mobility, it is something to consider upping your current stamina numbers in a couple of weeks imo.
  • iCaliban
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    Ive been running valkyn/spinners/lich with master destro on my sorc for over half a year. Bg build.
  • Insco851
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    Class sustain is going to make BTB or Crafty better than the other depending on needs.

    My magplar can rock 1200 recovery and never flinch. My magblade needs 1700 currently on live and more in the next patch.
  • Iskiab
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    I used to use bright throat a lot, but stopped after they nerfed drinks. In the witches festival they’re releasing a good drink again so I’ll probably go back to bright throat.
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  • Syiccal
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    Iskiab wrote: »
    I used to use bright throat a lot, but stopped after they nerfed drinks. In the witches festival they’re releasing a good drink again so I’ll probably go back to bright throat.

    What are you using instead, I'm using desert rose at the min, procs alot giving very good resource return
  • Iskiab
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    Syiccal wrote: »
    Iskiab wrote: »
    I used to use bright throat a lot, but stopped after they nerfed drinks. In the witches festival they’re releasing a good drink again so I’ll probably go back to bright throat.

    What are you using instead, I'm using desert rose at the min, procs alot giving very good resource return

    Transmutation. It’s not ideal for offensive stats, but the 5 piece crit resists is good. With longfin food I end up with a lot more health and stamina then using witchmother’s.

    Someone mentioned the witches festival drink with good stats was mislabeled and it’s actually a food. If that’s true I’ll probably use the new food, and BTB will be even more behind because of the drink limitation.
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  • tsaescishoeshiner
    festher wrote: »
    Is there any reason behind a BTB ring costing 10 times the price of Afliq?
    They are very much alike and i dont see why recovery is increasing the value THAT much. Could get recovery in other ways while also having more magicka from alfiq

    Afliq adds 5.848 Magicka.
    BTB 4.192 magicka and 279 magicka recovery

    On top of the popularity and flexibility of the set, another reason is that epic BTB rings are harder to find, since there's no geyser/dolmen equivalent in Murkmire.
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  • chris25602
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    kaithuzar wrote: »
    Best stamina set: fury
    Best mag set: bsw

    If you’re not doing those then you’re joining the Meta for bg’s:
    1 defensive set + 1 set that kills for you

    burning spellweave? The set is not really used much in PvP. I think bright-throat boast is the better choice there.

    lol yeah bsw is essentially a required set. I have been attempting to replace it for years. literally multiple years of testing and jerking around and when it comes down to it when i wanna kill i slot bsw
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