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U23 Magsorc Nerfs are Brutal

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  • StormChaser3000
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    Hmm, what if to start using Degeneration + Critical surge? The first skill will replace one of the nerfed AoEs (LL for example) and will provide Major Sorcery, and the second will be a stronger healing alternative to Power Surge (moreover since it was buffed).
    Sounds like a plan in theory. Gonna test it later on my magsorc which is my main character.
  • buttaface
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    StormChaser3000 wrote: »
    Hmm, what if to start using Degeneration + Critical surge? The first skill will replace one of the nerfed AoEs (LL for example) and will provide Major Sorcery, and the second will be a stronger healing alternative to Power Surge (moreover since it was buffed).
    Sounds like a plan in theory. Gonna test it later on my magsorc which is my main character.

    This is what I've been experimenting with and it works fine, the issue is you end up being a "lightning" class that ain't using very much lightning other than Form and Wrath. Better to use a flame staff it seems for the single target dmg in a post AOE DOT world. For us overland set plebs without much access to trial stuff, LA to get Spell Strategist buff, then DOT DOT Wrath LA LA LA or HA til dead. Using a fire staff on a sorc just feels kind of bad.

    PVP I imagine unless the nerf criers have their way with the new DOT meta, there will be a blossoming demand for Coward's Gear weapons and jewelry and lots of erstwhile glass cannon crafters rushing to the craft stations to make up some Fortified Brass... or not and they will just whine moar on the forums instead.


  • Malamar1229
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    Vercingetorix wrote: »
    Why not switch to Twilight Tormentor and use the Clannfear's heal instead? Run more health, get more shields and better Clannfear heals. Stack dots on your opponent and then execute away... I fail to see the issue here other than OP not adapting to the changes.

    Lol.
  • Oakmontowls_ESO
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    I mean the twilight nerf was a long time coming. Just look at the change to nb's refreshing path, they completely removed the damage component. Zos doesn't seem to want healing skills to be used for damage as well as healing. Templars should also be on the lookout for their ritual of retribution to get its healing nerfed.
  • Borys_Finlay
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    I mained sorc for the biggest part of my eso life, and i agree with matriarch nerfs, it was doing too much dmg.

    Tbh the biggest problem with the new patch really is the 100% nerf on power surge. Now it is a dead skill.

    Non cp sorc gonna have a bad time with smaller shields but cp sorcs can offset that.

    For those who r talking about sorcs now need impen trait on gear, we've using it since last year, we were also stacking more resistances, i guess u missed some patxy notes eh?

    Now power surge is just a dead ability, useless.
  • Haquor
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    Just for laughs i did not change my petsorc build at all... went into vMa for a run.

    I NEARLY died once in stage 7.

    I did notice that things died slightly slower. Obviously due to the bird nerf.
  • Alienoutlaw
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    Alchimiste1 wrote: »
    I'm just curious are most magsorcs trying to play a nonpet build with snb backbar or something ? No reason to do that when resto has rapid regen and new healing ward. There are your heals, both of those are better than surge anyways.

    erm..............................NO!!
  • Amira
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    marius_buys wrote: »
    Went into IC, got destroyed, respecced, got destroyed. Rage cancelled my ESO plus subs.
    I simply cant survive with no shield, no heal ZOS was that REALLY neccesary?
    Ya ya git gud and adapt I suppose...but good god man thats going overboard!

    Other classes are of course skipping down the street in delight while sorc main players feel violated.

    *So this is a Nerf Cloak thread o:)
  • marius_buys
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    Alienoutlaw wrote: »
    hamgatan wrote: »
    Alienoutlaw wrote: »
    hamgatan wrote: »
    marius_buys wrote: »
    Other classes are of course skipping down the street in delight while sorc main players feel violated.

    the HW 'rebalance' in nerfmire was more violating than this..

    how so?

    ..because it made vMA virtually impossible on more than a 250 ping. 25k HW's kept us alive. 8-9k not so..

    atleast you kept the HoT

    You mean the HoT on the Stamsorc? Not the OP topic at all. Critsurge looses major sorcery and you now have to cast twice, loose a class slot and thus bonus damage for slotting a class ability. It's triple jeapordy, if you dont understand that you dont play mag- or petsorc.
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  • marius_buys
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    Cously wrote: »
    Good. Suffer. DK wing nerf says hello.

    Like I said: Other classes skipping down the street with joy :)
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  • geonsocal
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    Lylith wrote: »
    marius_buys wrote: »
    Neoauspex wrote: »
    So they finally, after all these years, actually nerfed sorc?

    Into the ground bud, worse than the Templar nerf way back if you were around for it.

    it's been a steady nerf train for several updates now, scrubbing away the uniqueness of each class and muting their most effective abilities.

    we'll be npc's before it's done.

    this is exactly how the game feels right now...

    it feels like completely different classes from 2 or so years ago...
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  • geonsocal
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    I just want to.play the game...getting tired of feeling like I'm playing 3 card monty with zos wherein they keep shuffling all the skills...

    with this many changes it makes you think *** was pretty *** from the beginning...
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  • Ozazz
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    zos says we don't want you to 1vx nor not even kill one soul!
  • Nova Sky
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    *shrug* I'll see how things go with the changes (my main is a Breton magsorc). If I like them, or don't really notice the changes all that much, I'll keep ESO in my game rotation, along with subbing and so on.

    If it turns out the changes are too much, I will simply cease playing ESO, stop recommending it to others, and divert my spending to other interests.

    Just like any good customer would do. Isn't that right, bean counters at Zeni?
    "Wheresoever you go, go with all of your heart."
  • ErMurazor
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    Oh, sorcs cant go full damage sets with divine in PvP anymore!! Guess time for you to do as everyone else have done for ages and get 1 sustain/defence set and put on some impen. Welcome to the real world.
  • hakan
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    Why would you go divines anyway? %50 boost to mundus, lets say if its spell damage one it will give 120 sp damage more or magicka one which at most gives 1k magicka IF YOU HAVE FULL GOLDEN.

    Crit resist or even well fit(stam) and reinforced(was) is way better.
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