it is hard for Zos, iam not defending them, but what do you define as toxic, some say its verbal others say not, some saying having certain add ons like loot looker is other say its not, tell peeps what to wear or skills to use, some say is toxic, while others say is not, what zos has to do, is define what is toxic but it won't, as it has a fear that if it does players will leave, so defining what toxic behaviour is, is a hard thing

At least 90% of the 'toxic behaviour' isn't toxic at all. It's just people being overly sensitive.

Maybe try not getting offended by anonymous people on the internet. That works pretty well for me.

BigBragg wrote: »

If somebody does something truly offensive, or something that I perceive to be in the area of a cheat or exploit, I report them. Then I move on with me down. Don't give it another thought. By no means do they deserve to be granted that sort of power of my free time.

There are people who get paid to handle it. Let them. If they do their job properly, then they maintain a healthy community.

That's what I do as well.

But the issue here is that if they are indeed paying people to handle it, they are either not doing a great job or not being given the right tools to address the issues, because I have not noticed the community getting any better in the years I've been playing (this is not to mean like the community as a whole is terrible, but the toxic elements are simply not being dealt with).

Part of the problem is defining what's toxic. It varies for different people, even when there are baselines for acceptable/unacceptable behavior. People are individuals, so I'm not saying this is bad or good -- just difficult to define and enforce for all. So there will always be debates on the topic.

The other part -- and probably the larger issue -- is that there's no single place to examine and enforce the rules upon. Zone chat is one place to monitor. But then there's in-game voice chat on consoles, console-platform voice chat on the consoles, and myriad guild-based Discord/TeamSpeak/whatever out-of-band text and voice channels. It would take a LOT of GM's to monitor them all, likely more than is practical. Some form or monitoring in-game is a good idea, but it's not likely to be as effective as any of us would wish.

Hopefully, any sort of reports by players are handled seriously, promptly, and fairly. Since naming and shaming isn't permitted (and rightly so), then we won't hear much about resolutions and we just have to hope and trust that the system works.

Guilds themselves can do good by promoting positive behavior and values, and ZOS in turn can use their periodic spotlights to call attention to them and their efforts -- but PR and shaping public behavior takes time.

Like a lot of players, I just mute zone chat and only pay attention to my guild chat, and try to be a decent human being in-game. On the whole, that's what I see from a lot of players in PC-NA where I play. I've encountered much worse, on average, in other online games. I'll just try to continue being decent to fellow players, and if the majority of us continue to do that and don't sink to the level of toxic individuals, then on the whole, ESO will be OK.

Liam12548 wrote: »

Maybe try not getting offended by anonymous people on the internet. That works pretty well for me.

Edaphon wrote: »

At least 90% of the 'toxic behaviour' isn't toxic at all. It's just people being overly sensitive.

^^ Glad to know some people still support racism, harassment and the like in gaming culture, instead of actually doing something about it

Reistr_the_Unbroken wrote: »

Liam12548 wrote: »

Maybe try not getting offended by anonymous people on the internet. That works pretty well for me.

Edaphon wrote: »

At least 90% of the 'toxic behaviour' isn't toxic at all. It's just people being overly sensitive.

^^ Glad to know some people still support racism, harassment and the like in gaming culture, instead of actually doing something about it

Oh noes, better report me for being toxic.

UnseenCat wrote: »

Like a lot of players, I just mute zone chat and only pay attention to my guild chat, and try to be a decent human being in-game. On the whole, that's what I see from a lot of players in PC-NA where I play.

And it mostly works. But then we are missing out on a lot of stuff (and some of it may be important, like when you are in PvP).

Wouldn't it be nice to have a chat that doesn't turn away many players?

If you think teabagging is a reportable offense, then thats probably why they havent got back to you.

> toxic behaviour
> tea bagging

You know ESO is doing fine when players complain about teabagging, and not actual destructive behaviour.

Toxic behaviour would be sitting AFK in a battleground because your teammate is playing a class you judge being weak and calling them trash and all sort of names, or sitting AFK because your healer/tank is putting guard on you saying how your should kys for using that skill. (Yes, both happened).

Learn to take a loss and be sportive about teabags man, geez.

Glad to know the Fortnite community is aware and trying to do something about toxicity, unlike this community:

https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/2/20751540/fortnite-world-cup-women-esports-gen-g-faze-clan-ewok

Teabagging isnt sexual abuse. If your toon is female I'd say its sexual empowerment(especially if its taco tuesday).
But fir reals though i am just tryung to get back into stealth...

Derbforgaill wrote: »

but tea-bagging is representative of sexual abuse. .

Well that's just taking it out of context. I don't think anyone who tea-bags thinks "imma sexual abuse this character's heehheheh".
Just no. People do it because it's funny and for good laughs. When I 1v1 my friends and they win, they usually teabag me and we usually just laugh. WE don't freak out "omg my friend is sexually abusing me!1!!"

It's not deemed really harmful because it isn't. Stop being oversensitive, enjoy the game.

ChunkyCat wrote: »

Littlebluelizard wrote: »

... be sportive about teabags man, geez.

Yaassss. Place those *** on your opponents face.

hell yeah lmao