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Stamcro Pay-to-Win absurdity should NOT continue another patch

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  • nekura
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    Are all the stamcros running bloodspawn & asylum 2H or something for uptime?
  • Olupajmibanan
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    nekura wrote: »
    Are all the stamcros running bloodspawn & asylum 2H or something for uptime?

    No need for that. By chaining 8 Colossee you can achieve damn high uptime
  • Davadin
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    SidewalkChalk5 wrote: »
    For people who play other classes, 3 more months of Necro dominance will destroy any incentive to pick up this game..

    uh... no.

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  • kylermacdb16_ESO
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    Just give trial bosses immunity to the debuff for 10 sec or something after it wears off.

    But to say the barely functional Necro class as a whole is pay-to-win because of a single ultimate ability is just amusing.
  • hedna123b14_ESO
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    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »
    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    SidewalkChalk5 wrote: »
    hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »
    Lol 3 months is too long? Stamblades were meta from CWC to Elsweyr, that's 1.5 years. 3 months is rookie numbers:)

    I'm not just talking about a class being meta. These are insanely OP abilities compared to anything any other class has. They can stay top DPS meta class for all I care, but it's sort of crazy for them to also have the two greatest utility ultimates ever put in the game. All I'm saying is the other classes need some attention to bring their ulti's up to this new standard, otherwise endgame trials are going to stay really boring with 1 class to rule them all.

    You understand that even if necros, tomorrow, lost major vulnerability that them being the highest dps would make them the go to dps spec anyway in endgame PvE yes?

    I'm not sure if you want what you think you want, or have class envy here.

    If Necros lost Major Vuln they wouldnt be top dps

    Doesn't vuln give the entire raid the buff? How would their numbers fall if the atro only did damage?

    Right now stamsorcs outparse stamcros
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  • DocFrost72
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    hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »
    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »
    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    SidewalkChalk5 wrote: »
    hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »
    Lol 3 months is too long? Stamblades were meta from CWC to Elsweyr, that's 1.5 years. 3 months is rookie numbers:)

    I'm not just talking about a class being meta. These are insanely OP abilities compared to anything any other class has. They can stay top DPS meta class for all I care, but it's sort of crazy for them to also have the two greatest utility ultimates ever put in the game. All I'm saying is the other classes need some attention to bring their ulti's up to this new standard, otherwise endgame trials are going to stay really boring with 1 class to rule them all.

    You understand that even if necros, tomorrow, lost major vulnerability that them being the highest dps would make them the go to dps spec anyway in endgame PvE yes?

    I'm not sure if you want what you think you want, or have class envy here.

    If Necros lost Major Vuln they wouldnt be top dps

    Doesn't vuln give the entire raid the buff? How would their numbers fall if the atro only did damage?

    Right now stamsorcs outparse stamcros

    So then the person I quoted (and the OP) is factually incorrect, and Necros don't have the highest dps then?

    Edit: If you knew stam sorc pulled the highest dps, why did you jump into the conversation saying they did?
    hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »
    DocFrost72 wrote: »
    SidewalkChalk5 wrote: »
    hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »
    Lol 3 months is too long? Stamblades were meta from CWC to Elsweyr, that's 1.5 years. 3 months is rookie numbers:)

    I'm not just talking about a class being meta. These are insanely OP abilities compared to anything any other class has. They can stay top DPS meta class for all I care, but it's sort of crazy for them to also have the two greatest utility ultimates ever put in the game. All I'm saying is the other classes need some attention to bring their ulti's up to this new standard, otherwise endgame trials are going to stay really boring with 1 class to rule them all.

    You understand that even if necros, tomorrow, lost major vulnerability that them being the highest dps would make them the go to dps spec anyway in endgame PvE yes?

    I'm not sure if you want what you think you want, or have class envy here.

    If Necros lost Major Vuln they wouldnt be top dps

    Edited by DocFrost72 on August 11, 2019 9:55PM
  • Skjaldbjorn
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    kylermacdb16_ESO wrote: »
    Just give trial bosses immunity to the debuff for 10 sec or something after it wears off.

    But to say the barely functional Necro class as a whole is pay-to-win because of a single ultimate ability is just amusing.

    Longer, 20-25 seconds, but I agree. This is by far the best solution to the issue, and exists already in an Off-Balance ICD.
  • Ozby
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    Vahrokh wrote: »
    In case you haven't noticed, every paid expansion brings an utterly overpowered class and one or more utterly overpowered sets.

    They entice people buying their stuff like that.

    Don't worry, Stamcros will be truly nerfed before next expansion, to let the new stuff take over and entice you to buy it.

    Yep look what they did to wardens History repeating itself.
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  • hakan
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    How is this p2w is beyond me. A bugged class with mostly trash passives and a powerful ultimate.

    And a base class overperforms it right now?
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    The fact that all the other stam specs are parsing close to stamcros without major vulnerability in their toolkit. shows you how much of a crutch the colossus is. Take that away and stamcros would be weak AF.
  • Gnortranermara
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    TheGreatBlackBear wrote: »
    The fact that all the other stam specs are parsing close to stamcros without major vulnerability in their toolkit. shows you how much of a crutch the colossus is. Take that away and stamcros would be weak AF.

    Solo DPS is not the problem. The problem is that they can buff group DPS so effectively that 8 stamcros together can smash a trial boss in half the time anybody else can. It's a massive imbalance. Other class ulti's need to be brought up to par so that groups with diverse composition can perform at a competitive level.
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