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Annulment and Morphs Need a Further Audit on its' Power Budget
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Wuuffyy✭✭✭✭✭
✭Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »The dampen magicka morph after battle spirit with 43k mag and 26k health is only give a 6.4k shield on the PTS, they changed the percent it can scale to which is only useful in PvE and not really needed but whatever, they changed the way shield scale with max Magicka.
Shields on PTS aren't overpowered, what are you going to do with a 6k shield ( with the more powerful morph ) ?
Die.
Ha what build you have. A negative mag build. Tf?
Something that is at least better than ur negative Stam build with 8k vigors.
Well my vigors usually CRIT around 2k-2.3k no points in blessed (but this is not including PTS changes).Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »The dampen magicka morph after battle spirit with 43k mag and 26k health is only give a 6.4k shield on the PTS, they changed the percent it can scale to which is only useful in PvE and not really needed but whatever, they changed the way shield scale with max Magicka.
Shields on PTS aren't overpowered, what are you going to do with a 6k shield ( with the more powerful morph ) ?
Die.
Ha what build you have. A negative mag build. Tf?
Most mag builds have around 43k mag on average with 26k health.... so he has a standard mag set up..
26k health? No. Wut?
Bro.... most if not all builds have on average 26k health in PvP. I should’ve clarified that those stats are in PvP.
I play around 7 classes and the only one that dips below 26k ish magwarden with 25k... but with warden buff it’s around 27k
Yea. I feel you. Guess I just don't open world as much as I use to. MAGDEN tho has minor toughness which gives you the equivalent of heavy armor health.
Magtoons push the extra health to maxmimize shield size in the current meta.
The cap is hardly ever hit tho. Right?Wuuffyy,
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Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »The dampen magicka morph after battle spirit with 43k mag and 26k health is only give a 6.4k shield on the PTS, they changed the percent it can scale to which is only useful in PvE and not really needed but whatever, they changed the way shield scale with max Magicka.
Shields on PTS aren't overpowered, what are you going to do with a 6k shield ( with the more powerful morph ) ?
Die.
Ha what build you have. A negative mag build. Tf?
Something that is at least better than ur negative Stam build with 8k vigors.
Well my vigors usually CRIT around 2k-2.3k no points in blessed (but this is not including PTS changes).Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »The dampen magicka morph after battle spirit with 43k mag and 26k health is only give a 6.4k shield on the PTS, they changed the percent it can scale to which is only useful in PvE and not really needed but whatever, they changed the way shield scale with max Magicka.
Shields on PTS aren't overpowered, what are you going to do with a 6k shield ( with the more powerful morph ) ?
Die.
Ha what build you have. A negative mag build. Tf?
Most mag builds have around 43k mag on average with 26k health.... so he has a standard mag set up..
26k health? No. Wut?
Bro.... most if not all builds have on average 26k health in PvP. I should’ve clarified that those stats are in PvP.
I play around 7 classes and the only one that dips below 26k ish magwarden with 25k... but with warden buff it’s around 27k
Yea. I feel you. Guess I just don't open world as much as I use to. MAGDEN tho has minor toughness which gives you the equivalent of heavy armor health.
Magtoons push the extra health to maxmimize shield size in the current meta.
No. Atleast i don’t know anyone who pushes health to increase shield size. It’s hard to even reach the cap currently.
People (atleast i and some others I regularly speak to) don’t push health pet se - you simply push max total stats. If you do this health is a byproduct of triune and prismatic enchants.
This is further reinforced by dual food bc the previously mentioned provide a sufficient stam pool for cp environment.<Noricum>
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Insco851✭✭✭✭✭
✭Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »The dampen magicka morph after battle spirit with 43k mag and 26k health is only give a 6.4k shield on the PTS, they changed the percent it can scale to which is only useful in PvE and not really needed but whatever, they changed the way shield scale with max Magicka.
Shields on PTS aren't overpowered, what are you going to do with a 6k shield ( with the more powerful morph ) ?
Die.
Ha what build you have. A negative mag build. Tf?
Something that is at least better than ur negative Stam build with 8k vigors.
Well my vigors usually CRIT around 2k-2.3k no points in blessed (but this is not including PTS changes).Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »The dampen magicka morph after battle spirit with 43k mag and 26k health is only give a 6.4k shield on the PTS, they changed the percent it can scale to which is only useful in PvE and not really needed but whatever, they changed the way shield scale with max Magicka.
Shields on PTS aren't overpowered, what are you going to do with a 6k shield ( with the more powerful morph ) ?
Die.
Ha what build you have. A negative mag build. Tf?
Most mag builds have around 43k mag on average with 26k health.... so he has a standard mag set up..
26k health? No. Wut?
Bro.... most if not all builds have on average 26k health in PvP. I should’ve clarified that those stats are in PvP.
I play around 7 classes and the only one that dips below 26k ish magwarden with 25k... but with warden buff it’s around 27k
Yea. I feel you. Guess I just don't open world as much as I use to. MAGDEN tho has minor toughness which gives you the equivalent of heavy armor health.
Magtoons push the extra health to maxmimize shield size in the current meta.
The cap is hardly ever hit tho. Right?
It’s sorta a balance thing they implemented. Harness has a 40% health cap. With cp it’s easier to hit the health cap and then tri stat glyphs (+health) end up making a bigger shield than just straight mag glyphs.
Giving up dmg for defense. Before it was easier to JUST stack mag and build massive shields and massive dmg. Crit resistant as well so impen was often overlooked for again infused/divines for again- more max stat.
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ZarkingFrued✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yeah so apparently you guys wont be happy unless every single patch and pts they nerf shields more. Getting sad to see at this point really. Annulment is garbage and and so is magicka soon0 -
Insco851✭✭✭✭✭
✭Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »The dampen magicka morph after battle spirit with 43k mag and 26k health is only give a 6.4k shield on the PTS, they changed the percent it can scale to which is only useful in PvE and not really needed but whatever, they changed the way shield scale with max Magicka.
Shields on PTS aren't overpowered, what are you going to do with a 6k shield ( with the more powerful morph ) ?
Die.
Ha what build you have. A negative mag build. Tf?
Something that is at least better than ur negative Stam build with 8k vigors.
Well my vigors usually CRIT around 2k-2.3k no points in blessed (but this is not including PTS changes).Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »The dampen magicka morph after battle spirit with 43k mag and 26k health is only give a 6.4k shield on the PTS, they changed the percent it can scale to which is only useful in PvE and not really needed but whatever, they changed the way shield scale with max Magicka.
Shields on PTS aren't overpowered, what are you going to do with a 6k shield ( with the more powerful morph ) ?
Die.
Ha what build you have. A negative mag build. Tf?
Most mag builds have around 43k mag on average with 26k health.... so he has a standard mag set up..
26k health? No. Wut?
Bro.... most if not all builds have on average 26k health in PvP. I should’ve clarified that those stats are in PvP.
I play around 7 classes and the only one that dips below 26k ish magwarden with 25k... but with warden buff it’s around 27k
Yea. I feel you. Guess I just don't open world as much as I use to. MAGDEN tho has minor toughness which gives you the equivalent of heavy armor health.
Magtoons push the extra health to maxmimize shield size in the current meta.
No. Atleast i don’t know anyone who pushes health to increase shield size. It’s hard to even reach the cap currently.
People (atleast i and some others I regularly speak to) don’t push health pet se - you simply push max total stats. If you do this health is a byproduct of triune and prismatic enchants.
This is further reinforced by dual food bc the previously mentioned provide a sufficient stam pool for cp environment.
Well true. When I said “push health” - it’s meant as a tri glyph option because it’s the best option for max shields. By product or not, you need the highest of both pools possible to get the best shields. You arnt running health glyphs but MORE max health is still needed than the previous max mag shields of yesteryear0 -
pieratsos✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »The dampen magicka morph after battle spirit with 43k mag and 26k health is only give a 6.4k shield on the PTS, they changed the percent it can scale to which is only useful in PvE and not really needed but whatever, they changed the way shield scale with max Magicka.
Shields on PTS aren't overpowered, what are you going to do with a 6k shield ( with the more powerful morph ) ?
Die.
Ha what build you have. A negative mag build. Tf?
Something that is at least better than ur negative Stam build with 8k vigors.
Well my vigors usually CRIT around 2k-2.3k no points in blessed (but this is not including PTS changes).
So you are just basically admitting that the 8k vigor was just a made up argument to suit ur agenda. Nice job mate. Way to discredit ur own argument. Keep it up. lol2 -
josh.lackey_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Shields are too weak on PTS, and cost too much. The sizes should be doubled for the cost they have now.5 -
Wuuffyy✭✭✭✭✭
✭ZarkingFrued wrote: »Yeah so apparently you guys wont be happy unless every single patch and pts they nerf shields more. Getting sad to see at this point really. Annulment is garbage and and so is magicka soon
Well same could be said about mag users vs stam survivability.Wuuffyy,
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ESO player since 2014 (Xbox and PC for PTS)
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Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭josh.lackey_ESO wrote: »Shields are too weak on PTS, and cost too much. The sizes should be doubled for the cost they have now.
I would really not encourage that to happen. The size is problematic in certain circumstances- but that’s another argument that can’t be easily solved just like stacking both partly related to Magica only scaling.
The real issue is the cost in an environment where they have to be refreshed more often (dot meta).<Noricum>
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Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »The dampen magicka morph after battle spirit with 43k mag and 26k health is only give a 6.4k shield on the PTS, they changed the percent it can scale to which is only useful in PvE and not really needed but whatever, they changed the way shield scale with max Magicka.
Shields on PTS aren't overpowered, what are you going to do with a 6k shield ( with the more powerful morph ) ?
Die.
Ha what build you have. A negative mag build. Tf?
Something that is at least better than ur negative Stam build with 8k vigors.
Well my vigors usually CRIT around 2k-2.3k no points in blessed (but this is not including PTS changes).Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »The dampen magicka morph after battle spirit with 43k mag and 26k health is only give a 6.4k shield on the PTS, they changed the percent it can scale to which is only useful in PvE and not really needed but whatever, they changed the way shield scale with max Magicka.
Shields on PTS aren't overpowered, what are you going to do with a 6k shield ( with the more powerful morph ) ?
Die.
Ha what build you have. A negative mag build. Tf?
Most mag builds have around 43k mag on average with 26k health.... so he has a standard mag set up..
26k health? No. Wut?
Bro.... most if not all builds have on average 26k health in PvP. I should’ve clarified that those stats are in PvP.
I play around 7 classes and the only one that dips below 26k ish magwarden with 25k... but with warden buff it’s around 27k
Yea. I feel you. Guess I just don't open world as much as I use to. MAGDEN tho has minor toughness which gives you the equivalent of heavy armor health.
Not sure why are you keep debating on a point where 100 of players think its "Wrong Argument"
No more nerf to shields, Let it go, Let it go!Edited by Lord_Eomer on August 4, 2019 11:27AM1 -
WuffyCerulei✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I’ve been playing magicka for years now, and we mag users do not need our only defense to be nerfed again. It’s fine to have your opinion, but they really yeeted the light armor shields with Murkmire. I’m not gonna talk about sorc shields, as we all know they were strong with protective jewelry and whatnot. They’re not exactly cheap, and light armor wearers don’t have the higher resistances medium and heavy armor wearers have. I’m talking usually less than 10k physical resists, though spell resists are usually higher with the LA passive. Don’t need to make the game harder because you have a hard time killing someone with a shield."Buzz Lightyear toy isle shot" Stormcalling/Animal Companions/Assassination PVP build hater
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Miloscpolski✭✭✭Wolf_Watching wrote: »You don't sacrifice anything to get this huge max-health increasing "burst heal" except use the armor you were already going to run.
The self-healing version of vigor is going to be nerfed because it isn't attached to a weapon line (4 ones for stam). While rapid regen is behind a weapon line (of 2 choices), heals for the same if not more, and brings fantastic passives.
Therefore, according to the aforementioned logic the LA shield is overperforming and needs to be reexamined for those reasons.
It makes complete since because magic classes already have both an abundance of self heals and some even have other shields.
There is a huge DOT meta incoming in PvP and I imagine even more tenuous mechanics in PvE and while it seemed that one would need to retain the combative self healing and burst shielding power for this... The already pronounced vigor adjustment states otherwise on what is needed.
For those unaware of the upcoming RESOLVING VIGOR NERF. This a leading communication relaying dev's post in an audit(nerf) vigor thread past 7PM CST on THURSDAY, AUGUST 1ST:ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »As mentioned in this past week's PTS notes, we do feel Vigor's HoT enables too much healing. We're planning to have some adjustments in next week's PTS patch.
PS.-
My Suggestion for a Proper and Rightful Audit to the LA Shield and Morph:Remove or radically change the way shield stacking works -ie ward and this, health shields and this, etc.- The more shields then the less total shield you get.
My Suggestion for a Proper Audit to
Resolving Vigor:Cost Increase by 50%, Will heal only one friendly, non pet target within 7m for 10% less than current PTS value --- NOT ALWAYS A GUARANTEED HEAL ON YOU ---. Also re-audit rapid regen to heal 10% less to kept the standard the same.
mb delete stams from eso for balance?0 -
Miloscpolski✭✭✭ZOS_GregoryV wrote: »Greetings all,
After removing some comments, we must remind everyone that all posts are to be kept civil and constructive, as well as within the guidelines of our rules. If there may be any questions in regards to the rules, please feel free to review them here.
Thank you for your understanding,
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it would be better to communicate with us more than delete messages2 -
Kadoin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭That not a single person agreed with the OP shows me there is hope for balance in the game.0 -
Wuuffyy✭✭✭✭✭
✭That not a single person agreed with the OP shows me there is hope for balance in the game.
Lol. Not farming for agrees but I did get some.Wuuffyy,
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ESO player since 2014 (Xbox and PC for PTS)
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Wuuffyy✭✭✭✭✭
✭Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »The dampen magicka morph after battle spirit with 43k mag and 26k health is only give a 6.4k shield on the PTS, they changed the percent it can scale to which is only useful in PvE and not really needed but whatever, they changed the way shield scale with max Magicka.
Shields on PTS aren't overpowered, what are you going to do with a 6k shield ( with the more powerful morph ) ?
Die.
Ha what build you have. A negative mag build. Tf?
Something that is at least better than ur negative Stam build with 8k vigors.
Well my vigors usually CRIT around 2k-2.3k no points in blessed (but this is not including PTS changes).
So you are just basically admitting that the 8k vigor was just a made up argument to suit ur agenda. Nice job mate. Way to discredit ur own argument. Keep it up. lol
Yea in 5x the time of one shield. You are right.Wuuffyy,
WW/berserker playstyle advocate (I play ALL classes proficiently in PvP outside of WW as well)
ESO player since 2014 (Xbox and PC for PTS)
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Wuuffyy✭✭✭✭✭
✭Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »The dampen magicka morph after battle spirit with 43k mag and 26k health is only give a 6.4k shield on the PTS, they changed the percent it can scale to which is only useful in PvE and not really needed but whatever, they changed the way shield scale with max Magicka.
Shields on PTS aren't overpowered, what are you going to do with a 6k shield ( with the more powerful morph ) ?
Die.
Ha what build you have. A negative mag build. Tf?
Something that is at least better than ur negative Stam build with 8k vigors.
Well my vigors usually CRIT around 2k-2.3k no points in blessed (but this is not including PTS changes).
So you are just basically admitting that the 8k vigor was just a made up argument to suit ur agenda. Nice job mate. Way to discredit ur own argument. Keep it up. lol
Yea in 5x the time of one shield. You are right.
Nerf it all!Wuuffyy,
WW/berserker playstyle advocate (I play ALL classes proficiently in PvP outside of WW as well)
ESO player since 2014 (Xbox and PC for PTS)
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Insco851✭✭✭✭✭
✭Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »The dampen magicka morph after battle spirit with 43k mag and 26k health is only give a 6.4k shield on the PTS, they changed the percent it can scale to which is only useful in PvE and not really needed but whatever, they changed the way shield scale with max Magicka.
Shields on PTS aren't overpowered, what are you going to do with a 6k shield ( with the more powerful morph ) ?
Die.
Ha what build you have. A negative mag build. Tf?
Something that is at least better than ur negative Stam build with 8k vigors.
Well my vigors usually CRIT around 2k-2.3k no points in blessed (but this is not including PTS changes).
So you are just basically admitting that the 8k vigor was just a made up argument to suit ur agenda. Nice job mate. Way to discredit ur own argument. Keep it up. lol
Yea in 5x the time of one shield. You are right.
A single shield drops SO fast it’s almost funny they are nerfing them further. Vigor gonna tick regardless for the full duration. That shield gonna last 2-3 seconds if you are lucky and then needs another 4K cast.0 -
Wuuffyy✭✭✭✭✭
✭Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »The dampen magicka morph after battle spirit with 43k mag and 26k health is only give a 6.4k shield on the PTS, they changed the percent it can scale to which is only useful in PvE and not really needed but whatever, they changed the way shield scale with max Magicka.
Shields on PTS aren't overpowered, what are you going to do with a 6k shield ( with the more powerful morph ) ?
Die.
Ha what build you have. A negative mag build. Tf?
Something that is at least better than ur negative Stam build with 8k vigors.
Well my vigors usually CRIT around 2k-2.3k no points in blessed (but this is not including PTS changes).
So you are just basically admitting that the 8k vigor was just a made up argument to suit ur agenda. Nice job mate. Way to discredit ur own argument. Keep it up. lol
Yea in 5x the time of one shield. You are right.
A single shield drops SO fast it’s almost funny they are nerfing them further. Vigor gonna tick regardless for the full duration. That shield gonna last 2-3 seconds if you are lucky and then needs another 4K cast.
Yea but vigor has defile, debuffs going down, minor defile, siphon, AND Damage.Wuuffyy,
WW/berserker playstyle advocate (I play ALL classes proficiently in PvP outside of WW as well)
ESO player since 2014 (Xbox and PC for PTS)
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Insco851✭✭✭✭✭
✭Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »The dampen magicka morph after battle spirit with 43k mag and 26k health is only give a 6.4k shield on the PTS, they changed the percent it can scale to which is only useful in PvE and not really needed but whatever, they changed the way shield scale with max Magicka.
Shields on PTS aren't overpowered, what are you going to do with a 6k shield ( with the more powerful morph ) ?
Die.
Ha what build you have. A negative mag build. Tf?
Something that is at least better than ur negative Stam build with 8k vigors.
Well my vigors usually CRIT around 2k-2.3k no points in blessed (but this is not including PTS changes).
So you are just basically admitting that the 8k vigor was just a made up argument to suit ur agenda. Nice job mate. Way to discredit ur own argument. Keep it up. lol
Yea in 5x the time of one shield. You are right.
A single shield drops SO fast it’s almost funny they are nerfing them further. Vigor gonna tick regardless for the full duration. That shield gonna last 2-3 seconds if you are lucky and then needs another 4K cast.
Yea but vigor has defile, debuffs going down, minor defile, siphon, AND Damage.
Healing has a crap ton of modifiers that shields don’t get. And the major defile sources are lower than ever.0 -
Wuuffyy✭✭✭✭✭
✭Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »The dampen magicka morph after battle spirit with 43k mag and 26k health is only give a 6.4k shield on the PTS, they changed the percent it can scale to which is only useful in PvE and not really needed but whatever, they changed the way shield scale with max Magicka.
Shields on PTS aren't overpowered, what are you going to do with a 6k shield ( with the more powerful morph ) ?
Die.
Ha what build you have. A negative mag build. Tf?
Something that is at least better than ur negative Stam build with 8k vigors.
Well my vigors usually CRIT around 2k-2.3k no points in blessed (but this is not including PTS changes).
So you are just basically admitting that the 8k vigor was just a made up argument to suit ur agenda. Nice job mate. Way to discredit ur own argument. Keep it up. lol
Yea in 5x the time of one shield. You are right.
A single shield drops SO fast it’s almost funny they are nerfing them further. Vigor gonna tick regardless for the full duration. That shield gonna last 2-3 seconds if you are lucky and then needs another 4K cast.
Yea but vigor has defile, debuffs going down, minor defile, siphon, AND Damage.
Healing has a crap ton of modifiers that shields don’t get. And the major defile sources are lower than ever.
What nerfed blessed and nerfed recov... Major mending only some classes get or 15 sec of major vitality on non resource pot CD 45 secs. Wooooooooow!Wuuffyy,
WW/berserker playstyle advocate (I play ALL classes proficiently in PvP outside of WW as well)
ESO player since 2014 (Xbox and PC for PTS)
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Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »The dampen magicka morph after battle spirit with 43k mag and 26k health is only give a 6.4k shield on the PTS, they changed the percent it can scale to which is only useful in PvE and not really needed but whatever, they changed the way shield scale with max Magicka.
Shields on PTS aren't overpowered, what are you going to do with a 6k shield ( with the more powerful morph ) ?
Die.
Ha what build you have. A negative mag build. Tf?
Something that is at least better than ur negative Stam build with 8k vigors.
Well my vigors usually CRIT around 2k-2.3k no points in blessed (but this is not including PTS changes).
So you are just basically admitting that the 8k vigor was just a made up argument to suit ur agenda. Nice job mate. Way to discredit ur own argument. Keep it up. lol
Yea in 5x the time of one shield. You are right.
A single shield drops SO fast it’s almost funny they are nerfing them further. Vigor gonna tick regardless for the full duration. That shield gonna last 2-3 seconds if you are lucky and then needs another 4K cast.
Yea but vigor has defile, debuffs going down, minor defile, siphon, AND Damage.
Healing has a crap ton of modifiers that shields don’t get. And the major defile sources are lower than ever.
What nerfed blessed and nerfed recov... Major mending only some classes get or 15 sec of major vitality on non resource pot CD 45 secs. Wooooooooow!
Major and minor mending + vitality (8% 8% and 25% 30%)
Various sets and class passives (from 4 to 12%)
Cyrodiil resource passive (20%)
All of it stackable.
Yes there are classes that can put more together than others - sorc being the worst
But healing does have a hell of a lot of modifiers
Shields have 0
At this point I’d say it greatly depends on class if shields not being defiled out-weight
The advantages of healing.<Noricum>
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✭Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »The dampen magicka morph after battle spirit with 43k mag and 26k health is only give a 6.4k shield on the PTS, they changed the percent it can scale to which is only useful in PvE and not really needed but whatever, they changed the way shield scale with max Magicka.
Shields on PTS aren't overpowered, what are you going to do with a 6k shield ( with the more powerful morph ) ?
Die.
Ha what build you have. A negative mag build. Tf?
Something that is at least better than ur negative Stam build with 8k vigors.
Well my vigors usually CRIT around 2k-2.3k no points in blessed (but this is not including PTS changes).
So you are just basically admitting that the 8k vigor was just a made up argument to suit ur agenda. Nice job mate. Way to discredit ur own argument. Keep it up. lol
Yea in 5x the time of one shield. You are right.
A single shield drops SO fast it’s almost funny they are nerfing them further. Vigor gonna tick regardless for the full duration. That shield gonna last 2-3 seconds if you are lucky and then needs another 4K cast.
Yea but vigor has defile, debuffs going down, minor defile, siphon, AND Damage.
Healing has a crap ton of modifiers that shields don’t get. And the major defile sources are lower than ever.
What nerfed blessed and nerfed recov... Major mending only some classes get or 15 sec of major vitality on non resource pot CD 45 secs. Wooooooooow!
Major and minor mending + vitality (8% 8% and 25% 30%)
Various sets and class passives (from 4 to 12%)
Cyrodiil resource passive (20%)
All of it stackable.
Yes there are classes that can put more together than others - sorc being the worst
But healing does have a hell of a lot of modifiers
Shields have 0
At this point I’d say it greatly depends on class if shields not being defiled out-weight
The advantages of healing.
+crit heals lol.0 -
Wuuffyy✭✭✭✭✭
✭Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »The dampen magicka morph after battle spirit with 43k mag and 26k health is only give a 6.4k shield on the PTS, they changed the percent it can scale to which is only useful in PvE and not really needed but whatever, they changed the way shield scale with max Magicka.
Shields on PTS aren't overpowered, what are you going to do with a 6k shield ( with the more powerful morph ) ?
Die.
Ha what build you have. A negative mag build. Tf?
Something that is at least better than ur negative Stam build with 8k vigors.
Well my vigors usually CRIT around 2k-2.3k no points in blessed (but this is not including PTS changes).
So you are just basically admitting that the 8k vigor was just a made up argument to suit ur agenda. Nice job mate. Way to discredit ur own argument. Keep it up. lol
Yea in 5x the time of one shield. You are right.
A single shield drops SO fast it’s almost funny they are nerfing them further. Vigor gonna tick regardless for the full duration. That shield gonna last 2-3 seconds if you are lucky and then needs another 4K cast.
Yea but vigor has defile, debuffs going down, minor defile, siphon, AND Damage.
Healing has a crap ton of modifiers that shields don’t get. And the major defile sources are lower than ever.
What nerfed blessed and nerfed recov... Major mending only some classes get or 15 sec of major vitality on non resource pot CD 45 secs. Wooooooooow!
Major and minor mending + vitality (8% 8% and 25% 30%)
Various sets and class passives (from 4 to 12%)
Cyrodiil resource passive (20%)
All of it stackable.
Yes there are classes that can put more together than others - sorc being the worst
But healing does have a hell of a lot of modifiers
Shields have 0
At this point I’d say it greatly depends on class if shields not being defiled out-weight
The advantages of healing.
+crit heals lol.
Yea for that 2.5k value lol per second. Vs. The auto 8k in 1 sec.Wuuffyy,
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ESO player since 2014 (Xbox and PC for PTS)
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Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »The dampen magicka morph after battle spirit with 43k mag and 26k health is only give a 6.4k shield on the PTS, they changed the percent it can scale to which is only useful in PvE and not really needed but whatever, they changed the way shield scale with max Magicka.
Shields on PTS aren't overpowered, what are you going to do with a 6k shield ( with the more powerful morph ) ?
Die.
Ha what build you have. A negative mag build. Tf?
Something that is at least better than ur negative Stam build with 8k vigors.
Well my vigors usually CRIT around 2k-2.3k no points in blessed (but this is not including PTS changes).
So you are just basically admitting that the 8k vigor was just a made up argument to suit ur agenda. Nice job mate. Way to discredit ur own argument. Keep it up. lol
Yea in 5x the time of one shield. You are right.
A single shield drops SO fast it’s almost funny they are nerfing them further. Vigor gonna tick regardless for the full duration. That shield gonna last 2-3 seconds if you are lucky and then needs another 4K cast.
Yea but vigor has defile, debuffs going down, minor defile, siphon, AND Damage.
Healing has a crap ton of modifiers that shields don’t get. And the major defile sources are lower than ever.
What nerfed blessed and nerfed recov... Major mending only some classes get or 15 sec of major vitality on non resource pot CD 45 secs. Wooooooooow!
Major and minor mending + vitality (8% 8% and 25% 30%)
Various sets and class passives (from 4 to 12%)
Cyrodiil resource passive (20%)
All of it stackable.
Yes there are classes that can put more together than others - sorc being the worst
But healing does have a hell of a lot of modifiers
Shields have 0
At this point I’d say it greatly depends on class if shields not being defiled out-weight
The advantages of healing.
+crit heals lol.
Whops - knew I forgot something 🤦🏻♂️<Noricum>
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✭^^^lolWuuffyy,
WW/berserker playstyle advocate (I play ALL classes proficiently in PvP outside of WW as well)
ESO player since 2014 (Xbox and PC for PTS)
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Insco851✭✭✭✭✭
✭Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »Wolf_Watching wrote: »brandoncoffmannub18_ESO wrote: »The dampen magicka morph after battle spirit with 43k mag and 26k health is only give a 6.4k shield on the PTS, they changed the percent it can scale to which is only useful in PvE and not really needed but whatever, they changed the way shield scale with max Magicka.
Shields on PTS aren't overpowered, what are you going to do with a 6k shield ( with the more powerful morph ) ?
Die.
Ha what build you have. A negative mag build. Tf?
Something that is at least better than ur negative Stam build with 8k vigors.
Well my vigors usually CRIT around 2k-2.3k no points in blessed (but this is not including PTS changes).
So you are just basically admitting that the 8k vigor was just a made up argument to suit ur agenda. Nice job mate. Way to discredit ur own argument. Keep it up. lol
Yea in 5x the time of one shield. You are right.
A single shield drops SO fast it’s almost funny they are nerfing them further. Vigor gonna tick regardless for the full duration. That shield gonna last 2-3 seconds if you are lucky and then needs another 4K cast.
Yea but vigor has defile, debuffs going down, minor defile, siphon, AND Damage.
Healing has a crap ton of modifiers that shields don’t get. And the major defile sources are lower than ever.
What nerfed blessed and nerfed recov... Major mending only some classes get or 15 sec of major vitality on non resource pot CD 45 secs. Wooooooooow!
Major and minor mending + vitality (8% 8% and 25% 30%)
Various sets and class passives (from 4 to 12%)
Cyrodiil resource passive (20%)
All of it stackable.
Yes there are classes that can put more together than others - sorc being the worst
But healing does have a hell of a lot of modifiers
Shields have 0
At this point I’d say it greatly depends on class if shields not being defiled out-weight
The advantages of healing.
+crit heals lol.
Yea for that 2.5k value lol per second. Vs. The auto 8k in 1 sec.
Come play mag then If it’s so op lol0 -
CambionDaemon✭✭✭The only problem that shields have ever had is shield stacking, if that was fixed (incredibly easy, Major/Minor effects) then the problem would no longer exist and they can get back to fixing the bigger issues with the game (Performance/Lag).0
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Wuuffyy✭✭✭✭✭
✭CambionDaemon wrote: »The only problem that shields have ever had is shield stacking, if that was fixed (incredibly easy, Major/Minor effects) then the problem would no longer exist and they can get back to fixing the bigger issues with the game (Performance/Lag).
Fantastic idea.Wuuffyy,
WW/berserker playstyle advocate (I play ALL classes proficiently in PvP outside of WW as well)
ESO player since 2014 (Xbox and PC for PTS)
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