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So Resolving Is Getting Nerfed?
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-August 1st, past 7pm CST. Discuss.ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »As mentioned in this past week's PTS notes, we do feel Vigor's HoT enables too much healing. We're planning to have some adjustments in next week's PTS patch.
Wuuffyy,
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itsfatbass✭✭✭✭✭Except that its August 1st~PC/NA~ Magblade, Tankanist, Healplar, Stamcro, Oakensorc, Healden, Tanknight ~PLUR~0 -
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✭itsfatbass wrote: »Except that its August 1st
Right lol. I'm predicting the future. Jk ofc. But... fixed that my b. Constant work makes the days run through.Wuuffyy,
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✭✭✭I’m pretty sure they’re talking about echoing vigor. Never know though.
... and yes, I’m pretty sure if resolving vigor is reduced rapid regen will be reduced too. This is PTS, expect changes.Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten0 -
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✭From Notes 5.1.3
Vigor's rework to be a single target Heal over Time hasn't hit the mark we wanted, and currently enables too much healing with the Echoing Vigor morph. We'll be taking a close look at the core identity of the skill and potentially making adjustments.PS NA
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✭I don't care what they do with echoing vigor, but the single target heal should absolutely not be touched. With the removal of rally HoT vigor is the only reliable stamina heal in the game for most classes. Alongside that, the changes made to rapid regen makes it a magicka vigor, so if resolving vigor is nerfed, rapid regen should also be adjusted in the same way.Overload rework. Power Overload now does physical damage and grants you the power of a tornado: You throw a brick at the target with a light attack, and you hammer your head into that brick with every heavy attack. We have decreased its Ultimate cost, but increased the chance that you get stuck in the animation.8 -
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✭✭✭I don't care what they do with echoing vigor, but the single target heal should absolutely not be touched. With the removal of rally HoT vigor is the only reliable stamina heal in the game for most classes. Alongside that, the changes made to rapid regen makes it a magicka vigor, so if resolving vigor is nerfed, rapid regen should also be adjusted in the same way.
I agree with you, and if resolving’s nerfed I’m pretty sure Rapid Regen will go down by a similar amount.Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
Havoc Warhammer - Alair
LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
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✭✭I’m pretty sure they’re talking about echoing vigor. Never know though.
... and yes, I’m pretty sure if resolving vigor is reduced rapid regen will be reduced too. This is PTS, expect changes.
The patch is out in 10 days. There's not a lot of time left for changes."I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."
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You're right.Wuuffyy,
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✭I don't care what they do with echoing vigor, but the single target heal should absolutely not be touched. With the removal of rally HoT vigor is the only reliable stamina heal in the game for most classes. Alongside that, the changes made to rapid regen makes it a magicka vigor, so if resolving vigor is nerfed, rapid regen should also be adjusted in the same way.
vigor heals for noticeably more damage rapid regen. They are not comparable. A nerf to vigor should not equal a nerf to rapid regen.
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killingspreeb16_ESO✭✭✭✭thankyourat wrote: »I don't care what they do with echoing vigor, but the single target heal should absolutely not be touched. With the removal of rally HoT vigor is the only reliable stamina heal in the game for most classes. Alongside that, the changes made to rapid regen makes it a magicka vigor, so if resolving vigor is nerfed, rapid regen should also be adjusted in the same way.
vigor heals for noticeably more damage rapid regen. They are not comparable. A nerf to vigor should not equal a nerf to rapid regen.
Not true,in one thread someone posted a screen with the tooltip of both skill vigor was healing like 1/2k more,now add the extra passive from resto staff 15% more healing at low hp and major mending from HA and rapid heal more.
Both are really good and close in term of healing so yeah if one of the two get nerfed the other should be nerfed aswell.
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https://us.v-cdn.net/5020507/uploads/editor/aj/ukgtww6uzsz1.pngEdited by killingspreeb16_ESO on August 2, 2019 4:35PM1 -
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✭thankyourat wrote: »I don't care what they do with echoing vigor, but the single target heal should absolutely not be touched. With the removal of rally HoT vigor is the only reliable stamina heal in the game for most classes. Alongside that, the changes made to rapid regen makes it a magicka vigor, so if resolving vigor is nerfed, rapid regen should also be adjusted in the same way.
vigor heals for noticeably more damage rapid regen. They are not comparable. A nerf to vigor should not equal a nerf to rapid regen.
Vigor does not heal for noticeably more. On both my magblade and stamblade builds, they heal for pretty much the same (my rapid regen tooltip is slightly higher). And this isn't even taking into account stuff like restro passives and brp restro.
They are absolutely comparable, why do you think ZOS changed rapid regen to work in the exact same way resolving vigor does and why do you think ZOS reduced the cost of vigor to exactly 15% less resources than rapid regen (the different between magicka and stamina skills).Overload rework. Power Overload now does physical damage and grants you the power of a tornado: You throw a brick at the target with a light attack, and you hammer your head into that brick with every heavy attack. We have decreased its Ultimate cost, but increased the chance that you get stuck in the animation.2 -
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✭✭✭I don't care what they do with echoing vigor, but the single target heal should absolutely not be touched. With the removal of rally HoT vigor is the only reliable stamina heal in the game for most classes. Alongside that, the changes made to rapid regen makes it a magicka vigor, so if resolving vigor is nerfed, rapid regen should also be adjusted in the same way.
There are no reliable mag heals not tied to a weapon skill line either though. Fortunately my main (magden) has access to an entire skill line involving heals, but part of the reason I mostly quit playing my magblade is because it has no access to a strong burst heal outside of the resto staff options, and it seems ridiculous to have to equip an entirely different weapon and deal with the DPS loss just to have access to a substantial instantaneous heal.
I'm not saying that I want Vigor to be nerfed, not at all... But outside of class and weapon skills, mag users don't have easy access to a Vigor-type heal either. I've actually used Vigor on my magblade in the past, but when it comes to situations like vMA where you need that stam to dodge and block, that's not really an option.3 -
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✭SidraWillowsky wrote: »I don't care what they do with echoing vigor, but the single target heal should absolutely not be touched. With the removal of rally HoT vigor is the only reliable stamina heal in the game for most classes. Alongside that, the changes made to rapid regen makes it a magicka vigor, so if resolving vigor is nerfed, rapid regen should also be adjusted in the same way.
There are no reliable mag heals not tied to a weapon skill line either though. Fortunately my main (magden) has access to an entire skill line involving heals, but part of the reason I mostly quit playing my magblade is because it has no access to a strong burst heal outside of the resto staff options, and it seems ridiculous to have to equip an entirely different weapon and deal with the DPS loss just to have access to a substantial instantaneous heal.
I'm not saying that I want Vigor to be nerfed, not at all... But outside of class and weapon skills, mag users don't have easy access to a Vigor-type heal either. I've actually used Vigor on my magblade in the past, but when it comes to situations like vMA where you need that stam to dodge and block, that's not really an option.
That is a lie tho.Wuuffyy,
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✭✭Mag has access to shields, now even more powerful heals through Resto, Powerful class heals yet people are crying for a nerf to Vigor? Give me a break, wtb some logic for these forums.3 -
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✭Told yaWuuffyy,
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