Backbarring resto and running multiple healing skills vs slotting one skill that heals you and all nearby allies.
They are both comparative numbers wise, but vigor is a guaranteed heal where as regen and healing ward are not. If there are other people around then you may have to spam it 2-3 times just to get the heal.
I wouldn't mind if they lowered the regen heal, if there was a morph that gave a guaranteed heal like vigor does. Magic shouldn't have to use rng to get a reliable heal.
They are both comparative numbers wise, but vigor is a guaranteed heal where as regen and healing ward are not. If there are other people around then you may have to spam it 2-3 times just to get the heal.
I wouldn't mind if they lowered the regen heal, if there was a morph that gave a guaranteed heal like vigor does. Magic shouldn't have to use rng to get a reliable heal.
If you’re grouped, heals will almost certainly be thrown your way as well. It is silly rng, but its still powerful. Group members not dying is still beneficial for you and annoying for the opponent(s).
Leeching strikes from nb.
Critical surge (stamsorcs use this morph) and dark deal (stam morph which costs mag and restores stam) from sorc
Cleansing ritual and morphs from templar (scales from max resources)
Leeching strikes from nb.
Critical surge (stamsorcs use this morph) and dark deal (stam morph which costs mag and restores stam) from sorc
Cleansing ritual and morphs from templar (scales from max resources)
Leeching is a utility skill that is used for resource return and just so happens to have a heal that isn’t reliable. You literally proved my point by not pointing out STAMINA class heals. Doesn’t matter whether they’re usable for stam. They cost Magicka. So this whole argument of “well I have to use a resto staff” is ignorant. Stamina users are forced to running rally or vigor in order to actively heal. Meanwhile Magicka users have huge in class burst heals.
Btw, crit surge and dark deal scale off blessed and elfborn. Purify is a joke of a heal even for Magicka users.
Backbarring resto and running multiple healing skills vs slotting one skill that heals you and all nearby allies.
Only one morph of vigor does that and its heals/sec is halved. Sorcs seem to be fine on live running resto/destro, magblades too, magdens as well, and even mag dks. Looks like you're pigeon-holed into resto like stam is with 2h. Its not a good thing, but it is the way it is and doesn't call for a nerf ONLY to stam.
I think you meant to say, "If you're grouped *in a dedicated premade*, heals will almost certainly be thrown your way as well." There are innumerable instances where I've had my magicka character(s) come under heavy attack while a Stam-bro on my team stood right next to me without hitting Vigor or any CC to try and give me breathing room. But if he gets himself in front of me, the heals that I desperately need on myself might go to him instead, even if he's mostly in good shape and not actively taking heat. And in the case of Healing Ward at least, it might put several of them in a row on him.They are both comparative numbers wise, but vigor is a guaranteed heal where as regen and healing ward are not. If there are other people around then you may have to spam it 2-3 times just to get the heal.
I wouldn't mind if they lowered the regen heal, if there was a morph that gave a guaranteed heal like vigor does. Magic shouldn't have to use rng to get a reliable heal.
If you’re grouped, heals will almost certainly be thrown your way as well. It is silly rng, but its still powerful. Group members not dying is still beneficial for you and annoying for the opponent(s).
They are both comparative numbers wise, but vigor is a guaranteed heal where as regen and healing ward are not. If there are other people around then you may have to spam it 2-3 times just to get the heal.
I wouldn't mind if they lowered the regen heal, if there was a morph that gave a guaranteed heal like vigor does. Magic shouldn't have to use rng to get a reliable heal.
If you’re grouped, heals will almost certainly be thrown your way as well. It is silly rng, but its still powerful. Group members not dying is still beneficial for you and annoying for the opponent(s).
Cmon man that’s not a good defense for that.
They are not and will not be equal no matter the case. I’d prefer they were. I’d rather a single target 5 sec heal and a 10 sec AOE heal just like vigor over the current Mutagen/RR setups.
Doubtful that happens, but make at least one of the morphs a guaranteed self heal and I’ll have no complaints about them balancing both it and vigor together.
Backbarring resto and running multiple healing skills vs slotting one skill that heals you and all nearby allies.
I think you meant to say, "If you're grouped *in a dedicated premade*, heals will almost certainly be thrown your way as well." There are innumerable instances where I've had my magicka character(s) come under heavy attack while a Stam-bro on my team stood right next to me without hitting Vigor or any CC to try and give me breathing room. But if he gets himself in front of me, the heals that I desperately need on myself might go to him instead, even if he's mostly in good shape and not actively taking heat. And in the case of Healing Ward at least, it might put several of them in a row on him.They are both comparative numbers wise, but vigor is a guaranteed heal where as regen and healing ward are not. If there are other people around then you may have to spam it 2-3 times just to get the heal.
I wouldn't mind if they lowered the regen heal, if there was a morph that gave a guaranteed heal like vigor does. Magic shouldn't have to use rng to get a reliable heal.
If you’re grouped, heals will almost certainly be thrown your way as well. It is silly rng, but its still powerful. Group members not dying is still beneficial for you and annoying for the opponent(s).
Vortigaunt wrote: »
Leeching strikes from nb.
Critical surge (stamsorcs use this morph) and dark deal (stam morph which costs mag and restores stam) from sorc
Cleansing ritual and morphs from templar (scales from max resources)
I think the OP’s right. Vigor and Rapid Regen are almost the same.
Vigor is self only, Rapid Regen can hit anyone but it can also be used to heal allies. Stam have way more wp then mag have sp so vigor heals for more, but mag can use the BRP resto for major Vitality.
I don’t see an issue, they’re just different but equal.
Purify is a joke of a heal even for Magicka users.
Wolf_Watching wrote: »Or neither bro. Its been standardized deal with it?
Correct me if I'm wrong but isnt vigor literally the only stamina heal in the game that only heals and does nothing else. Leeching, surge, dark deal, rally etc all have alternative uses and dark deal also has a cast time as well
And then there is shields
Emma_Overload wrote: »Why do the forums talk as if everyone has the BRP staff whenever Resto heals are mentioned? Nothing could be further from the truth. Never mind the opportunity cost incurred by carrying the thing in the first place!