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Pellitine Motifs not dropping anymore?

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Have the Pellitine motifs stopped dropping? I've been doing the Dragon Hunt more or less since they started and have only received one Pellitine motif so far. Have they stopped dropping?
  • PizzaCat82
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    Have the Pellitine motifs stopped dropping? I've been doing the Dragon Hunt more or less since they started and have only received one Pellitine motif so far. Have they stopped dropping?

    I've done it on 4 characters every day since last week, only got Maces yesterday... They're dropping its just really low chance.
  • Froil
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    I've done one every day since its release, plus three (did it on other characters), and I've only gotten five pages? I only stopped doing them yesterday because the drop rate seems so abysmally low; and I've farmed Buoyant Armiger!
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  • wenchmore420b14_ESO
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    Same here. Only 1 in 3 weeks.... :(
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  • Yellow_Monolith
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    It feels like the drop rate has been cut
  • MasterSpatula
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    Yeah, this drop rate needs to be radically increased. Not just increased. Radically increased.

    Going off of pure anecdotal evidence, Anequina has a 1 in 12 drop rate, which puts it at pretty much the same drop rate as other motifs that drop from WB and similar dailies. If you put in the effort and manage to get the quests, you can get 12 of the boxes in a single day per character, and the boxes don't take all that long to acquire.

    Contrast this with Pellitine. The drop rate on these, again going off only my own anecdotal evidence, also seems to be the typical 1 in 12. However, each box takes significantly more time to acquire than a typical Anequina box. Plus, you can only get 1 box per day per character.

    This means that you can get about a motif per day if you put in the work for Anequina, but each Pellitine box represents nearly two weeks of Dragon Hunts (assuming RNG isn't cruel to you). I've been running these dailies on one character since the day they came out, and I started on a second character a couple of weeks later. I have three pages so far, and I'm very, very, very, very over dragon hunts.

    This is, in my very firm opinion, simply bad design. I would expect good designers to feel compelled to fix it.
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  • Parrot1986
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    27 of them with 3 motifs in total dropped, 2 of them daggers. Thankfully got chests for the other and will buy the rest once I get my 30 day achievement.

    Drop rate for these is way too low.
  • mlstevens42_ESO
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    In the last two days have received two one each day and have only been doing this on one toon. The drop rate is low but not terribly so.
  • Ravensilver
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    In the last two days have received two one each day and have only been doing this on one toon. The drop rate is low but not terribly so.

    You lucky person! *__*

    Well, just ran through with two toons and again, nothing. I'm stuck with one motif since release despite doing the dailies... >.>
  • phileunderx2
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    Got a page today. They still drop just not very often.
  • Hallothiel
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    In the last two days have received two one each day and have only been doing this on one toon. The drop rate is low but not terribly so.

    You lucky person! *__*

    Well, just ran through with two toons and again, nothing. I'm stuck with one motif since release despite doing the dailies... >.>

    Same. Ridiculous drop rate. Not impressed & so now don’t care.

    If not fun, why bother? (Especially if have my utterly abysmal rng...)
  • Katahdin
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    I've gotten 3, 2 of which are dupes.
    Been doing those dailies almost every day since the quest was available.

    Really stupidly low drop rate. Worse than BA. Don't expect them to change it. They want you to give up and buy it with crowns instead. I'm rather sick of most motifs being locked behind super hard content and/or rediculous grinds.
    Edited by Katahdin on July 30, 2019 11:13PM
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  • luen79rwb17_ESO
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    People asked for dragons so ZOS made sure you got your fair load of dragon-killing grind
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  • Ackwalan
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    ZOS RNG is terrible. You just can't open the reward box the day you get it and expect to get many motifs. What seems to work better (I know completely subjective) is to save up 5 boxes on a character and then open them. Once you get a motif, don't anymore for at least 12 hours on that account. I make sure to have at least 5 boxes before I start to open them, and I don't open more the 5 in any one 12 hour period. I have been doing this on 4 characters, and now that I have many of those reward boxes saved up, I get a motif page on more days then not.
  • Ravensilver
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    ZOS RNG is terrible. You just can't open the reward box the day you get it and expect to get many motifs. What seems to work better (I know completely subjective) is to save up 5 boxes on a character and then open them. Once you get a motif, don't anymore for at least 12 hours on that account. I make sure to have at least 5 boxes before I start to open them, and I don't open more the 5 in any one 12 hour period. I have been doing this on 4 characters, and now that I have many of those reward boxes saved up, I get a motif page on more days then not.

    Well... I tried that this week. Just opened six boxes... no motif. *sigh*
  • Thrasher91604
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    I'm pretty sure ZoS is throttling or limiting the drops. It's not pure RNG.

    My only evidence (and this holds for the Murkmire motifs too), is that I get a higher drop rate on weekdays than I do on weekends.

    I think ZOS reduces the drop chance based on number of drops or box openings that have already happened for the day (or week).

    Try only opening you boxes early in the week, early in the day, and see if your drop rates increase.
    Edited by Thrasher91604 on August 8, 2019 12:18AM
  • Girl_Number8
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    ZOS RNG is terrible. You just can't open the reward box the day you get it and expect to get many motifs. What seems to work better (I know completely subjective) is to save up 5 boxes on a character and then open them. Once you get a motif, don't anymore for at least 12 hours on that account. I make sure to have at least 5 boxes before I start to open them, and I don't open more the 5 in any one 12 hour period. I have been doing this on 4 characters, and now that I have many of those reward boxes saved up, I get a motif page on more days then not.

    Thanks for the info. I will definitely check this out.

    Because the drop rate has been terrible and Zos has got their sticky fingers in this I am sure.
  • Girl_Number8
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    ZOS RNG is terrible. You just can't open the reward box the day you get it and expect to get many motifs. What seems to work better (I know completely subjective) is to save up 5 boxes on a character and then open them. Once you get a motif, don't anymore for at least 12 hours on that account. I make sure to have at least 5 boxes before I start to open them, and I don't open more the 5 in any one 12 hour period. I have been doing this on 4 characters, and now that I have many of those reward boxes saved up, I get a motif page on more days then not.

    Well... I tried that this week. Just opened six boxes... no motif. *sigh*

    Did they read this :(

  • Ravensilver
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    Try only opening you boxes early in the week, early in the day, and see if your drop rates increase.

    Thanks for the info. I'll try this next...
  • Katahdin
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    Haven't seen one in over 2 weeks.
    RNG was terrible before. Been doing the daily almost every day since start on one character some times on two.

    I have 3 pages, 2 helmets and one of another. It's bad.....
    Guess if I don't do it on the day lm slated to get one then I'm just screwed until I happen to do on a day I'm slated to win the lotto.

    I think they reduced the drop rate even futher to push crown store sales of them.
    Edited by Katahdin on August 8, 2019 4:01PM
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  • redlink1979
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    I'm not running the daily quest everyday, I got 6 pages so far (boots, chests, gloves, shoulders, staves n swords). And 2 spare pages (boots n staves).
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  • redlink1979
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    What seems to work better (I know completely subjective) is to save up 5 boxes on a character and then open them.

    The amount of boxes you are carrying doesn't influence the drop ratio... When I open boxes I only carry 3 boxes (delve, WB n dragons daily), I got 6 pages and 2 spares.

    If you want to increase your odds, you must run daily quests with more chars.
    Edited by redlink1979 on August 8, 2019 3:45PM
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  • BigBragg
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    I also haven't had one in over a week.
  • Meesha1170
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    It’s also like that for the Anequina Motif. It seems to be about a 30% decrease in drop rate from past Motif drops gained from dailies, or at the very least has been in my case. It doesn’t motivate me to give up and buy the Motif in the Crown Store for a ridiculous price so not I’m sure what the angle is here.

    I do know that it caused me to just give up pursuing them since even staring at a blank wall is more fun than running the same dailies ad nauseum for what will probably be about a year to get every chapter at this rate. I’ll just buy them from a guild trader at some point, maybe.
  • Grandma
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    the drop rate is a bad joke. Ran it 6 times a day for a week and got 3 motifs. Gave up and took a break. came back and they seemed to have tweaked it up or i got lucky getting 3 a week of doing 1 a day. Then just bought the last two.

    it's a crappy looking motif too, don't waste cash on it.
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  • Meesha1170
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    Grandma wrote: »
    the drop rate is a bad joke. Ran it 6 times a day for a week and got 3 motifs. Gave up and took a break. came back and they seemed to have tweaked it up or i got lucky getting 3 a week of doing 1 a day. Then just bought the last two.

    it's a crappy looking motif too, don't waste cash on it.

    I have experienced things like that too. Often if I give up on a daily and come back after several months I will get lucky in the beginning.
  • randomkeyhits
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    Going through another dry phase here, no pellitine or anequina motif pages in over a week, hmmm nearly two now.

    also know if I do get a drop its going to be a duplicate, not so much the game but just my usual luck.
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  • zaria
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    I'm pretty sure ZoS is throttling or limiting the drops. It's not pure RNG.

    My only evidence (and this holds for the Murkmire motifs too), is that I get a higher drop rate on weekdays than I do on weekends.

    I think ZOS reduces the drop chance based on number of drops or box openings that have already happened for the day (or week).

    Try only opening you boxes early in the week, early in the day, and see if your drop rates increase.
    This sounds hard to code so not likely.
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  • SidraWillowsky
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    Yeahhhh maybe this is just confirmation bias but this seems to happen a lot. RNG, I know, but...

    First few weeks after Elsweyr came out...in SS I saw probably 15 Lokk daggers drop over the course of 4 or 5 runs. Haven't seen a single one drop in over a month now, and I've run a LOT. Same for FG body pieces that aren't a worthless trait- they're all Sturdy, Invigorating, or Well-Fitted now.

    First few days of the crafting part of the 5-week celebration a few months back. Motifs and rare materials for days. A few days in... nothing.

    Same for these motifs.

    Tinfoil hat I guess, but it would make sense that they increase the drop rates at first to hook people and show them that yeah, this stuff DOES drop, so they keep running stuff...
  • Thrasher91604
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    Yeah I am definitely seeing a pattern where drop rates fall when items are farmed more.
  • MasterSpatula
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    RE: the drop rate seeming to change according to date.

    When I do fishing, I consistently find that I get more blue fish right after a server maintenance.

    Now, this might be sheer coincidence. The fact that I've duplicated the results more than once may also be sheer coincidence.

    Or, it might be that ZOS' RNG is designed to make sure that actual rates of certain drops closely match the probability of those drops, so if several people get really lucky early in the week, you have much higher odds to beat later in the week (and even worse when there are multiple weeks between downtime).

    Rationally, I know this is almost certainly conspiratorial nonsense, because what kind of lunatic designer thinks punishing one player for another player's good fortune is remotely defensible, justifiable, or forgivable? You would have to be genuinely hostile to the very concept of good game design to treat your players in such a way.

    On the other hand, at least in fishing, the game seems to act like it's true.

    YMMV.
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