Seventh Legion 5.1.2 change...
MaxJrFTW
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Seventh Legion:
This item set can now only be activated from casting an ability that increases your Resistances, instead of anytime your Resistances increase. This means that things such as passives, potions, or poisons can no longer trigger this effect.
This pretty much renders the set 100% useless to Stamblades. The only way to proc it would be to use 5 heavy and Immovable, which was just made even more useless than it was before. Nobody wants to make themselves 65% slower.
Do us all a favor and revert that change please.
This item set can now only be activated from casting an ability that increases your Resistances, instead of anytime your Resistances increase. This means that things such as passives, potions, or poisons can no longer trigger this effect.
This pretty much renders the set 100% useless to Stamblades. The only way to proc it would be to use 5 heavy and Immovable, which was just made even more useless than it was before. Nobody wants to make themselves 65% slower.
Do us all a favor and revert that change please.
"I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."
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✭✭✭✭✭Doesn´t one of the elude blur morphs provide minor resistance buffs?Edited by Derra on July 22, 2019 3:04PM<Noricum>
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akray21✭✭✭✭✭Seventh Legion:
This item set can now only be activated from casting an ability that increases your Resistances, instead of anytime your Resistances increase. This means that things such as passives, potions, or poisons can no longer trigger this effect.
This pretty much renders the set 100% useless to Stamblades. The only way to proc it would be to use 5 heavy and Immovable, which was just made even more useless than it was before. Nobody wants to make themselves 65% slower.
Do us all a favor and revert that change please.
RIP my heavy stamblade build (7th, BP, Bloodspawn). Guess I'll just run Hunding's instead? Boring, but about the only choice left.
Unless Armor Master procs it, but probably not because ZOS coding logic.Edited by akray21 on July 22, 2019 2:58PM1 -
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✭✭Seventh Legion:
This item set can now only be activated from casting an ability that increases your Resistances, instead of anytime your Resistances increase. This means that things such as passives, potions, or poisons can no longer trigger this effect.
This pretty much renders the set 100% useless to Stamblades. The only way to proc it would be to use 5 heavy and Immovable, which was just made even more useless than it was before. Nobody wants to make themselves 65% slower.
Do us all a favor and revert that change please.
RIP my heavy stamblade build (7th, BP, Bloodspawn). Guess I'll just run Hunding's instead? Boring, but about the only choice left.
Armor master is not an ability, so it shouldn't proc it."I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."
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✭✭Yes, this change made 7th Legion all but useless now. I kept one set just in case it become viable again. But I sold all the rest of mine while I could still sell in the guild store and make some gold off of it.
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akray21✭✭✭✭✭Seventh Legion:
This item set can now only be activated from casting an ability that increases your Resistances, instead of anytime your Resistances increase. This means that things such as passives, potions, or poisons can no longer trigger this effect.
This pretty much renders the set 100% useless to Stamblades. The only way to proc it would be to use 5 heavy and Immovable, which was just made even more useless than it was before. Nobody wants to make themselves 65% slower.
Do us all a favor and revert that change please.
RIP my heavy stamblade build (7th, BP, Bloodspawn). Guess I'll just run Hunding's instead? Boring, but about the only choice left.
Armor master is not an ability, so it shouldn't proc it.
It should because Armor Master changes the functionality of an ability to include resistances buffs. But it's fine...Edited by akray21 on July 22, 2019 2:59PM0 -
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I went on pts and tested it.
You can use Mirage and procc seventh legion with that.
Only stamsorc gets snipped.<Noricum>
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You said elude. Elude is the medium armor skill.
Mirage is next to useless for a stamblade. Slotting that just to proc a set is a waste. Not only that, but it's also pretty expensive, and the cost of shade was just increased from 2700 to 4k. There's no room to be slotting more magicka abilities.Edited by MaxJrFTW on July 22, 2019 3:02PM"I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."
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akray21✭✭✭✭✭Nightblades rejoice.
I went on pts and tested it.
You can use Mirage and procc seventh legion with that.
Only stamsorc gets snipped.
At the expense of a high amount of magicka, so if you want to use 7th you will have a lot less resources for cloak heals, shade, and fear... and the point of running heavy on stamblade is for the heals...Edited by akray21 on July 22, 2019 3:05PM1 -
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You said elude. Elude is the medium armor skill.
Mirage is next to useless for a stamblade. Slotting that just to proc a set is a waste. Not only that, but it's also pretty expensive, and the cost of shade was just increased from 2700 to 4k. There's no room to be slotting more magicka abilities, especially one that does next to nothing for you.
Mirage blur Elude. I used the wrong name.
Sorry i don´t know all morph names on top of my head.<Noricum>
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Hurricane is a 15 second buff with the majority of the skills damage being between 10-15 seconds into the ability. 7th has a 10 second duration. The new 7th is not viable for stamsorcs if you want hurricane to do any damage.6 -
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You said elude. Elude is the medium armor skill.
Mirage is next to useless for a stamblade. Slotting that just to proc a set is a waste. Not only that, but it's also pretty expensive, and the cost of shade was just increased from 2700 to 4k. There's no room to be slotting more magicka abilities.
well then dont use the set?7 -
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✭✭grannas211 wrote: »
You said elude. Elude is the medium armor skill.
Mirage is next to useless for a stamblade. Slotting that just to proc a set is a waste. Not only that, but it's also pretty expensive, and the cost of shade was just increased from 2700 to 4k. There's no room to be slotting more magicka abilities.
well then dont use the set?
Obviously not going to use it, but that's beyond the point.
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You said elude. Elude is the medium armor skill.
Mirage is next to useless for a stamblade. Slotting that just to proc a set is a waste. Not only that, but it's also pretty expensive, and the cost of shade was just increased from 2700 to 4k. There's no room to be slotting more magicka abilities.
Cry more. You have a tool in your class' toolkit to address your issue and refuse to use it. Your problem is a self-made one. Adjust your build or drop the set.“Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.”18 -
Royalthought✭✭✭✭✭Vercingetorix wrote: »
You said elude. Elude is the medium armor skill.
Mirage is next to useless for a stamblade. Slotting that just to proc a set is a waste. Not only that, but it's also pretty expensive, and the cost of shade was just increased from 2700 to 4k. There's no room to be slotting more magicka abilities.
Cry more. You have a tool in your class' toolkit to address your issue and refuse to use it. Your problem is a self-made one. Adjust your build or drop the set.
Actually the problem arises from stamblades performing well. The opponents they defeat, come to the forums and ask for "changes." The devs then cater to them. Clearly, making a post is the way to go.
To simply ask that nightblades major ward/resolve skills activate the set is quite sensible. Every other class does it.
The inner nerd expression "cry more" should be reserved for those asking for nerfs. But clearly those that desire nerfs enjoy changes like these.Edited by Royalthought on July 22, 2019 3:34PM1 -
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✭✭Royalthought wrote: »Vercingetorix wrote: »
You said elude. Elude is the medium armor skill.
Mirage is next to useless for a stamblade. Slotting that just to proc a set is a waste. Not only that, but it's also pretty expensive, and the cost of shade was just increased from 2700 to 4k. There's no room to be slotting more magicka abilities.
Cry more. You have a tool in your class' toolkit to address your issue and refuse to use it. Your problem is a self-made one. Adjust your build or drop the set.
Actually the problem arises from stamblades performing well. The opponents they defeat, come to the forums and ask for "changes." The devs then cater to them. Clearly, making a post is the way to go.
To simply ask that nightblades major ward/resolve skills activate the set is quite sensible. Every other class does it.
The inner nerd expression "cry more" should be reserved for those asking for nerfs. But clearly those that desire nerfs enjoy changes like these.
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✭✭✭✭✭Royalthought wrote: »Vercingetorix wrote: »
You said elude. Elude is the medium armor skill.
Mirage is next to useless for a stamblade. Slotting that just to proc a set is a waste. Not only that, but it's also pretty expensive, and the cost of shade was just increased from 2700 to 4k. There's no room to be slotting more magicka abilities.
Cry more. You have a tool in your class' toolkit to address your issue and refuse to use it. Your problem is a self-made one. Adjust your build or drop the set.
Actually the problem arises from stamblades performing well. The opponents they defeat, come to the forums and ask for "changes." The devs then cater to them. Clearly, making a post is the way to go.
To simply ask that nightblades major ward/resolve skills activate the set is quite sensible. Every other class does it.
The inner nerd expression "cry more" should be reserved for those asking for nerfs. But clearly those that desire nerfs enjoy changes like these.
Obviously zos deems the bonus too powerful to be activated by a passive.<Noricum>
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akray21✭✭✭✭✭Royalthought wrote: »Vercingetorix wrote: »
You said elude. Elude is the medium armor skill.
Mirage is next to useless for a stamblade. Slotting that just to proc a set is a waste. Not only that, but it's also pretty expensive, and the cost of shade was just increased from 2700 to 4k. There's no room to be slotting more magicka abilities.
Cry more. You have a tool in your class' toolkit to address your issue and refuse to use it. Your problem is a self-made one. Adjust your build or drop the set.
Actually the problem arises from stamblades performing well. The opponents they defeat, come to the forums and ask for "changes." The devs then cater to them. Clearly, making a post is the way to go.
To simply ask that nightblades major ward/resolve skills activate the set is quite sensible. Every other class does it.
The inner nerd expression "cry more" should be reserved for those asking for nerfs. But clearly those that desire nerfs enjoy changes like these.
Obviously zos deems the bonus too powerful to be activated by a passive.
"...zos deems the bonus too powerful to be activated by a nightblade."
*FixedEdited by akray21 on July 22, 2019 3:45PM3 -
Jeezye✭✭✭✭✭Jesus stop qqing the set was way overperforming, now it has an interesting proc condition that actually gives you control over the uptime and is arguably more interesting than before.
There's hundreds of other good stamina sets to choose from. People complaining just got carried.9 -
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✭✭✭✭As @Derra mentioned you can still use this set via mirage, but I don't think it's worth it. This set does synergize quite well with Stam sorcs though.
To be fair, stamblades shouldn't be able to proc it passively.2 -
akray21✭✭✭✭✭As @Derra mentioned you can still use this set via mirage, but I don't think it's worth it. This set does synergize quite well with Stam sorcs though.
To be fair, stamblades shouldn't be able to proc it passively.
No. It doesn't synergize with stamsorc. From above post...
"Hurricane is a 15 second buff with the majority of the skills damage being between 10-15 seconds into the ability. 7th has a 10 second duration. The new 7th is not viable for stamsorcs if you want hurricane to do any damage."7 -
universal_wrath✭✭✭✭✭Nightblades rejoice.
I went on pts and tested it.
You can use Mirage and procc seventh legion with that.
Only stamsorc gets snipped.
At the expense of a high amount of magicka, so if you want to use 7th you will have a lot less resources for cloak heals, shade, and fear... and the point of running heavy on stamblade is for the heals...
All classes have to sacrifice something to get something. For example, dk use buffs and shields more than nb does. If you don't want to use a skill because it's expensive, then don't use it. The less people who use tanky meta, the better.0 -
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Im not disagreeing with you but i dont use hurricane for the dmg, it an armor/speed buff. For a dizzy swing build your talking about losing 2-3k dmg over 5 secs. If your a dot build then oooph...As @Derra mentioned you can still use this set via mirage, but I don't think it's worth it. This set does synergize quite well with Stam sorcs though.
To be fair, stamblades shouldn't be able to proc it passively.
No. It doesn't synergize with stamsorc. From above post...
"Hurricane is a 15 second buff with the majority of the skills damage being between 10-15 seconds into the ability. 7th has a 10 second duration. The new 7th is not viable for stamsorcs if you want hurricane to do any damage."
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universal_wrath✭✭✭✭✭Royalthought wrote: »Vercingetorix wrote: »
You said elude. Elude is the medium armor skill.
Mirage is next to useless for a stamblade. Slotting that just to proc a set is a waste. Not only that, but it's also pretty expensive, and the cost of shade was just increased from 2700 to 4k. There's no room to be slotting more magicka abilities.
Cry more. You have a tool in your class' toolkit to address your issue and refuse to use it. Your problem is a self-made one. Adjust your build or drop the set.
Actually the problem arises from stamblades performing well. The opponents they defeat, come to the forums and ask for "changes." The devs then cater to them. Clearly, making a post is the way to go.
To simply ask that nightblades major ward/resolve skills activate the set is quite sensible. Every other class does it.
The inner nerd expression "cry more" should be reserved for those asking for nerfs. But clearly those that desire nerfs enjoy changes like these.
Obviously zos deems the bonus too powerful to be activated by a passive.
"...zos deems the bonus too powerful to be activated by a nightblade."
*Fixed
Because NB can have 100% uptime on the set as both medium and heavy armor withoyt any drawbacks, like precasting resistance buff. The shadow worrier passive is in a skill line that majority of nightblade use 2-3 skills from, and constiantly. Claok in both morphs, surpirse attacks, shades, and fear. Nice package, all in one. No drawbacks whatsoevery. Having NB use mirage for this buff, put them in every class shoes were they have to face the benefits and drawbacks of sustain when using the this set. Plus, if heavy armor NB,
minor resistance with major evasion is too good to pass, I think.4
