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Magicka Sorcerers Growing Hate @ PVP
Lord_Eomer
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Mag Sorcerer hate has grown even further because currently they have everything in thier toolkit:
1. Strong shields
2. Streak to run away and making jolk of ones fighting next to you (gratz Mag Sorc was here and you are looking downwards?)
3. Best Execute for PVP
4. Good burst damage and Heals
5. Strong Atronotch Ultimate, 1 VS 1 no comparison
I believe below can be some good solution to overcome issues, its just some idea so please avoid posting rants or aggressive comments
With current Magicka Sorcerer Meta you do not need to be any experienced player but just know what skills to use at what time. Other magicka class are getting somehow indirectly nerf due to Magicka Sorcerer class!
I do not hate Magicka Sorcerer but love playing them and request for ZOS is to have adjustment for PVP gameplay only.
Edited by Lord_Eomer on July 19, 2019 11:00AM 1. Strong shields
2. Streak to run away and making jolk of ones fighting next to you (gratz Mag Sorc was here and you are looking downwards?)
3. Best Execute for PVP
4. Good burst damage and Heals
5. Strong Atronotch Ultimate, 1 VS 1 no comparison
I believe below can be some good solution to overcome issues, its just some idea so please avoid posting rants or aggressive comments
- Not allow shield stacking anymore or define maximum cap of shields strength or bring back the glory of legendary set Shield Breaker (make it hybrid so lets magicka use this too)
- Streak Stun to be removed or duration to be reduced to 1 second or add cooldown to next cast
- Remove delay cast from Endless Fury
- Matriatch Nerf is good but Healign Ward buff will again put same problem over and over
- Remove Stun from Atronotch Ultimate
With current Magicka Sorcerer Meta you do not need to be any experienced player but just know what skills to use at what time. Other magicka class are getting somehow indirectly nerf due to Magicka Sorcerer class!
I do not hate Magicka Sorcerer but love playing them and request for ZOS is to have adjustment for PVP gameplay only.
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labambao✭✭✭✭But Eomer, you still have your rohirrims to chase that streaking sorc down with horses!Edited by labambao on July 19, 2019 10:08AM23 -
Sephyr✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Don't forget that if they unpack their zoo, you can't even target them through all the other crap. Meanwhile they can literally sneeze and kill a Necro's blastbones pet.19 -
Gnozo✭✭✭✭✭
✭Shields already have a cap.
Streak stun duration doesnt really matter cause every good player instantly breaks a CC.
Healing ward and rapid regen will give sorc now a valid heal outside of pet heal. Not everyone likes to play with a zoo....
Remove what stun?21 -
NeroBad✭✭✭✭Don't worry ZOS will nerf everything in next patch, then those who still play PVP will call for other nerfs and they will do it, and hopefully by then so many will quit or stop giving money to ZOS that they will finally realise they are unable to balance PvP and PvE at the same time.8 -
Master_Kas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Shields already have a cap.
Streak stun duration doesnt really matter cause every good player instantly breaks a CC.
Healing ward and rapid regen will give sorc now a valid heal outside of pet heal. Not everyone likes to play with a zoo....
Remove what stun?
Think he means to remove the stun from the atronach ultimate.
Lul Edited by Master_Kas on July 19, 2019 10:17AMEU | PC6 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭But Eomer, you still have your rohirrims to chase that streaking sorc down with horses!
I wish ZOS allows me to carry Spear and use while riding!
lads, Amazon has announced LOTR MMORPG so hope to seeing you there someday
I am sure Amazon will allow me to carry spear while riding.
Cheers for RohirrimsEdited by Lord_Eomer on July 19, 2019 10:30AM4 -
Baphomet✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, just make the summons killable by ensuring that they don't repeatedly heal to 100% health when you try to kill them or instantly zap to the sorcerer if he tries to bolt escape.
Or remove the hitboxes of the summons so that you can actually hit the sorcerer, who can easily hide inside them and almost get 100% perpetual damage reduction.
In any case, sorc summon mechanics/physics have been cancer to this game for years and it is long overdue that they do something about it.- The Psijic Order
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Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Shields already have a cap.
Streak stun duration doesnt really matter cause every good player instantly breaks a CC.
Healing ward and rapid regen will give sorc now a valid heal outside of pet heal. Not everyone likes to play with a zoo....
Remove what stun?
Shields already have a cap.
Comments: Shields can be stack and get same strength as previously, resistance mitigation applied against shields. You can still easily get 16-20K shield (by stacking Hardened Ward + Dampen Magic and Healing Ward is still strong choice over DM or HM
Streak stun duration doesnt really matter cause every good player instantly breaks a CC.
Comments: Streak have no cooldown, whenver close to die do you think Sorc streaking away by few meters?
Healing ward and rapid regen will give sorc now a valid heal outside of pet heal. Not everyone likes to play with a zoo....
Comments: Not just about a Zoo, Dark Magic line gives some healing upon damage, Dark Conversion, Healing Ward and now even strong Rapid Regen
Remove what stun?[/quote]
Comments: I have updated my comments in post
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Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Have you actually played a sorc or against one on the pts?
The class is nerfed pretty hard (excluding the 5.1.1 buffed healing ward). I´m sorry but if you still think sorcs on pts come even remotely close to OP territory in any form or shape the problem isn´t with the sorc class.Edited by Derra on July 19, 2019 10:37AM<Noricum>
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Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Have you actually played a sorc or against one on the pts?
The class is nerfed pretty hard. I´m sorry but if you still think sorcs on pts come even remotely close to OP territory in any form or shape the problem isn´t with the sorc class.
Sorc see only shield and pets nerf which will not solve issues,
Pets were never a problem for me in PVP but Shield Stacking is.1 -
Gnozo✭✭✭✭✭
✭Lord_Eomer wrote: »Shields already have a cap.
Streak stun duration doesnt really matter cause every good player instantly breaks a CC.
Healing ward and rapid regen will give sorc now a valid heal outside of pet heal. Not everyone likes to play with a zoo....
Remove what stun?
Shields already have a cap.
Comments: Shields can be stack and get same strength as previously, resistance mitigation applied against shields. You can still easily get 16-20K shield (by stacking Hardened Ward + Dampen Magic and Healing Ward is still strong choice over DM or HM
Streak stun duration doesnt really matter cause every good player instantly breaks a CC.
Comments: Streak have no cooldown, whenver close to die do you think Sorc streaking away by few meters?
Healing ward and rapid regen will give sorc now a valid heal outside of pet heal. Not everyone likes to play with a zoo....
Comments: Not just about a Zoo, Dark Magic line gives some healing upon damage, Dark Conversion, Healing Ward and now even strong Rapid Regen
Remove what stun?
Comments: I have updated my comments in post
Sure Streak has no cooldown but a cost increase. Unlike cloak for example.....
Still dont know why you should reduce the duration of the stun if you break it free anyway.....
Dark magic passive healing cant even be counted as healing. The only skill from that line that sorcs use is frag. That cant be spammed. Dark conversion heals for 4-5k and has a huuuuuge cast time.
And why remove the stun from Atro? Its an ultimate. It is suposed to be strong. And btw, Atro is stationary. You can just walk out of its range and the sorc wasted his ult...Edited by Gnozo on July 19, 2019 10:40AM6 -
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✭✭Magicka Sorc has been yo-yo’ing between overpowered and strong for 5 years now. Why not play a Sorc?
Other classes yo-yo between below average to average.
It’s never going to change. The playerbase loves their magicka Sorcs.9 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lord_Eomer wrote: »Shields already have a cap.
Streak stun duration doesnt really matter cause every good player instantly breaks a CC.
Healing ward and rapid regen will give sorc now a valid heal outside of pet heal. Not everyone likes to play with a zoo....
Remove what stun?
Shields already have a cap.
Comments: Shields can be stack and get same strength as previously, resistance mitigation applied against shields. You can still easily get 16-20K shield (by stacking Hardened Ward + Dampen Magic and Healing Ward is still strong choice over DM or HM
Streak stun duration doesnt really matter cause every good player instantly breaks a CC.
Comments: Streak have no cooldown, whenver close to die do you think Sorc streaking away by few meters?
Healing ward and rapid regen will give sorc now a valid heal outside of pet heal. Not everyone likes to play with a zoo....
Comments: Not just about a Zoo, Dark Magic line gives some healing upon damage, Dark Conversion, Healing Ward and now even strong Rapid Regen
Remove what stun?
Comments: I have updated my comments in post
Sure Streak has no cooldown but a cost increase. Unlike cloak for example.....
[Lord_Eomer Comment] Streak just got cost reduction this patch and I have never seen Magicka player failing on streak, this need adjustment
Still dont know why you should reduce the duration of the stun if you break it free anyway.....
[Lord_Eomer Comment] Break free is not a free to use, it has Stamina cost and on verge of killing while having deficient resources, this is window for any sorc. Also break free rrely works ontime and still it fails many time
Dark magic passive healing cant even be counted as healing. The only skill from that line that sorcs use is frag. That cant be spammed. Dark conversion heals for 4-5k and has a huuuuuge cast time.
[Lord_Eomer Comment] You cast Dark Conversion not b/w fight but before and who use cast time morph of frag in PVP? its all extra heals that helps but mainly healing ward is issue
And why remove the stun from Atro? Its an ultimate. It is suposed to be strong. And btw, Atro is stationary. You can just walk out of its range and the sorc wasted his ult...
[Lord_Eomer Comment] its a one hell strong ultimate especially in BG
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✭✭The developers aren’t really addressing magicka Sorc power. Here’s a thread from 1 year ago. Same over performance, slightly different pain points...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/435829/sorcs-take-a-deep-breath/p12 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Magicka Sorc has been yo-yo’ing between overpowered and strong for 5 years now. Why not play a Sorc?
Other classes yo-yo between below average to average.
It’s never going to change. The playerbase loves their magicka Sorcs.
I play them all time and see totaling huge scores in BG death matches or making jolks of some chasing @ Cyrodil
ZOS will for sure not address real issues to annoy Sorc fansEdited by Lord_Eomer on July 19, 2019 10:50AM1 -
Freakin_Hytte✭✭✭✭✭The only annoyance I have is that pets are targetable, it's impossible in bg's to hit when sorcs proccs daedroth, having the matronarch with the atronach to Finnish it off, nerfing matronarch's damage is a good start. But for God's sake MAKE PETS UNTARGETABLE and I think it's ridiculous that necros blastbones dies with 1-2 shots while sorc pets are pretty damn tanky for a pet and can be healed...7
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✭Every time PVP’ers complain about Sorcs and demand nerfs, ZOS oblige in the next patch. This directly impacts PVE’ers who suffer the consequences of the class nerfs that only benefit the PVP population.
Time someone thought about the players who PVE, and are the majority of the player base. They do not want these nerfs, and the other classes who PVE do not constantly demand Sorc nerfs either. Yet every time ZOS ‘balance’ classes it seems to be to the advantage of PVP, and to the detriment of PVE.
Way beyond time to do something about this @ZOS , and balance PVE and PVP separately.
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✭Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Shields already have a cap.
Streak stun duration doesnt really matter cause every good player instantly breaks a CC.
Healing ward and rapid regen will give sorc now a valid heal outside of pet heal. Not everyone likes to play with a zoo....
Remove what stun?
Shields already have a cap.
Comments: Shields can be stack and get same strength as previously, resistance mitigation applied against shields. You can still easily get 16-20K shield (by stacking Hardened Ward + Dampen Magic and Healing Ward is still strong choice over DM or HM
Streak stun duration doesnt really matter cause every good player instantly breaks a CC.
Comments: Streak have no cooldown, whenver close to die do you think Sorc streaking away by few meters?
Healing ward and rapid regen will give sorc now a valid heal outside of pet heal. Not everyone likes to play with a zoo....
Comments: Not just about a Zoo, Dark Magic line gives some healing upon damage, Dark Conversion, Healing Ward and now even strong Rapid Regen
Remove what stun?
Comments: I have updated my comments in post
Sure Streak has no cooldown but a cost increase. Unlike cloak for example.....
[Lord_Eomer Comment] Streak just got cost reduction this patch and I have never seen Magicka player failing on streak, this need adjustment
Still dont know why you should reduce the duration of the stun if you break it free anyway.....
[Lord_Eomer Comment] Break free is not a free to use, it has Stamina cost and on verge of killing while having deficient resources, this is window for any sorc. Also break free rrely works ontime and still it fails many time
Dark magic passive healing cant even be counted as healing. The only skill from that line that sorcs use is frag. That cant be spammed. Dark conversion heals for 4-5k and has a huuuuuge cast time.
[Lord_Eomer Comment] You cast Dark Conversion not b/w fight but before and who use cast time morph of frag in PVP? its all extra heals that helps but mainly healing ward is issue
And why remove the stun from Atro? Its an ultimate. It is suposed to be strong. And btw, Atro is stationary. You can just walk out of its range and the sorc wasted his ult...
[Lord_Eomer Comment] its a one hell strong ultimate especially in BG
Dont really know what you mean by failing on Streak. But streaks fails a lot of times while we still have a bug where you get locked in place and your streak fails.
Streak also has a cost and is one of the last class CCs for sorcs.
Dark conversion is a burst heal, why should i use it before the fight for the heal? Sorcs use it for the magicka regen. The heal isnt anywhere near viable. I was talking about the proc frag. Ofc No one using the aoe cast time one. But still you can spam Crystal frag cause you rely on the proc and can easily be dodged.
Sorcs dont have viable class heal besides pets that also take 2 bar Spaces. And again, not everyone like to play with pets.4 -
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✭✭PVE’ers are pulling 90k+ DPS now. And every content patch adds PVE content. When was the last time we got a new cyrodiil or BG mode?
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Idinuse✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lord_Eomer wrote: »Mag Sorcerer hate has grown even further because currently they have everything in thier toolkit:
1. Strong shields
2. Streak to run away and making jolk of ones fighting next to you (gratz Mag Sorc was here and you are looking downwards?)
3. Best Execute for PVP
4. Good burst damage and Heals
5. Strong Atronotch Ultimate, 1 VS 1 no comparison
I believe below can be some good solution to overcome issues, its just some idea so please avoid posting rants or aggressive comments- Not allow shield stacking anymore or define maximum cap of shields strength or bring back the glory of legendary set Shield Breaker (make it hybrid so lets magicka use this too)
- Streak Stun to be removed or duration to be reduced to 1 second or add cooldown to next cast
- Remove delay cast from Endless Fury
- Matriatch Nerf is good but Healign Ward buff will again put same problem over and over
- Remove Stun from Atronotch Ultimate
With current Magicka Sorcerer Meta you do not need to be any experienced player but just know what skills to use at what time. Other magicka class are getting somehow indirectly nerf due to Magicka Sorcerer class!
I do not hate Magicka Sorcerer but love playing them and request for ZOS is to have adjustment for PVP gameplay only.
The Sorc hate posts are really, really getting old now.
FFS how come I get wrecked on my Mag Sorc at times in Mighty Chudan's and Armor Master with Harness Magicka up? (32K mit and 3.2K Crit mit + the ~7K Harness Shield that also inherits my mits).
L2P already damn it. You have clearly plenty of learning to do from the builds I meet in Cyro.
Also:"With current Magicka Sorcerer Meta you do not need to be any experienced player but just know what skills to use at what time. "
- Are you joking? Knowing strategic use of skills isn't skill? What sort of magic do you tell yourself you are doing with your skills? You relly think your rotation is something special don't you? SMH
Most Stam builds demand a specialized build to really counter them, how come this can't be true for countering Sorcs? Jesus the "I need trash to kill for my KDR" posts... Exactly the same thing happened to Templars and it took 3 years for the class to recover to it's current state - all due to people's whining and crying over not bothering to counter them. One post then even whined over having 300/30 KDR - of which 20 to Templars ffs.
And by saying you "really love playing [mag sorcs]" you really mean playing against them right? Don't try to make it sound like this whine post comes from a jaded Mag Sorc player.Edited by Idinuse on July 19, 2019 12:35PMSed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium dolorem que laudantium, totam rem aperiam, eaque ipsa quae ab illo inventore veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt explicabo. Nemo enim ipsam voluptatem quia voluptas sit aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed quia consequuntur magni dolores eos qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt. Neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quaerat voluptatem. Ut enim ad minima veniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur? Quis autem vel eum iure reprehenderit qui in ea voluptate velit esse quam nihil molestiae consequatur, vel illum qui dolorem eum fugiat quo voluptas nulla pariatur?9 -
Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Eomer wrote: »Have you actually played a sorc or against one on the pts?
The class is nerfed pretty hard. I´m sorry but if you still think sorcs on pts come even remotely close to OP territory in any form or shape the problem isn´t with the sorc class.
Sorc see only shield and pets nerf which will not solve issues,
Pets were never a problem for me in PVP but Shield Stacking is.
Guess what. ZOS encourages the sorcs that will remain after this to shieldstack - because using less shield becomes less vaible due to refreshing (at higher cost) being undesireable.
Apart from that if you´d have actually played against sorcs on pts you would realize that the issues regarding sorcs are solved. You can simply murder them.<Noricum>
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SirMewser✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Eomer wrote: »Mag Sorcerer hate has grown even further because currently they have everything in thier toolkit:
1. Strong shields
2. Streak to run away and making jolk of ones fighting next to you (gratz Mag Sorc was here and you are looking downwards?)
3. Best Execute for PVP
4. Good burst damage and Heals
5. Strong Atronotch Ultimate, 1 VS 1 no comparison
I believe below can be some good solution to overcome issues, its just some idea so please avoid posting rants or aggressive comments- Not allow shield stacking anymore or define maximum cap of shields strength or bring back the glory of legendary set Shield Breaker (make it hybrid so lets magicka use this too)
- Streak Stun to be removed or duration to be reduced to 1 second or add cooldown to next cast
- Remove delay cast from Endless Fury
- Matriatch Nerf is good but Healign Ward buff will again put same problem over and over
- Remove Stun from Atronotch Ultimate
With current Magicka Sorcerer Meta you do not need to be any experienced player but just know what skills to use at what time. Other magicka class are getting somehow indirectly nerf due to Magicka Sorcerer class!
I do not hate Magicka Sorcerer but love playing them and request for ZOS is to have adjustment for PVP gameplay only.
How about we just throw PvP into oblivion and leave the PvE players alone?
You haven't played PTS or as a Sorc which screams negligence of data. Bias as bias can be.
A quick look at your profile/comments list tells the same story.
Why couldn't your perspective rather be to throw the other classes a damn bone?
It took Templars forever to recover, shame on you for wanting to repeat history.
Even if they do nerf Sorcs, all there is going to be is more QQing because that's all PVPers do.Edited by SirMewser on July 20, 2019 1:52AM5 -
Expert✭✭✭✭If you tried sorc on the PTS you'll understand that sorc isn't the problem, it's dots and excessive healings. The new magplar bubble is definitely going to kill off the population as there's no counter play regardless of your skillset and experience with ESO.
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Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Austinseph1 wrote: »Absolutely no more nerfs, your PvP tears have been non stop for years and the nerfs have already deleted most of the pros of even touching a pet sorc in PvE. The nerf cries need to stop.
lol PVP oriented skills like Streak, Shields etc must need adjustment. They are strongly over performing.
Just out of pve and see sometime outside amazing world of PVP1 -
Idinuse✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭...Lord_Eomer wrote: »Austinseph1 wrote: »Absolutely no more nerfs, your PvP tears have been non stop for years and the nerfs have already deleted most of the pros of even touching a pet sorc in PvE. The nerf cries need to stop.
lol PVP oriented skills like Streak, Shields etc must need adjustment. They are strongly over performing.
Just out of pve and see sometime outside amazing world of PVP
Giving the same nerf treatment to all stam CCs, which are all strongly over performing, then yeah.Sed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium dolorem que laudantium, totam rem aperiam, eaque ipsa quae ab illo inventore veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt explicabo. Nemo enim ipsam voluptatem quia voluptas sit aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed quia consequuntur magni dolores eos qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt. Neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quaerat voluptatem. Ut enim ad minima veniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur? Quis autem vel eum iure reprehenderit qui in ea voluptate velit esse quam nihil molestiae consequatur, vel illum qui dolorem eum fugiat quo voluptas nulla pariatur?3 -
CambionDaemon✭✭✭Shields in PvP take one hit, two tops. If a Sorc (or any class) is stacking shields then they are not doing damage to you.
With the changes to PetSorcs, they have no pressure while casting their shields.
Yes shield stacking is an issue, and the correct way to balance it would be Major/Minor levels.
That all being said, if you cannot kill a Sorcerer nowadays, then it is not the class.Edited by CambionDaemon on July 19, 2019 12:59PM2 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭CambionDaemon wrote: »Shields in PvP take one hit, two tops. If a Sorc (or any class) is stacking shields then they are not doing damage to you.
With the changes to PetSorcs, they have no pressure while casting their shields.
Yes shield stacking is an issue, and the correct way to balance it would be Major/Minor levels.
That all being said, if you cannot kill a Sorcerer nowadays, then it is not the class.
You never play as sorc or just see a sorc playing,
Shield stacking and huge damage this is what they do.2 -
Idinuse✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lord_Eomer wrote: »Shields already have a cap.
Comments: Shields can be stack and get same strength as previously, resistance mitigation applied against shields. You can still easily get 16-20K shield (by stacking Hardened Ward + Dampen Magic and Healing Ward is still strong choice over DM or HM
Just lol. Do you think Shields are for free? 3 shields taking up 3 slots, of which one of them locks you to use a Resto on one bar isn't sacrificing enough? At least learn from the players I meet that have been playing Cyro for a long time and have 0 problems against my Mag Sorc build before whining about mechanics you don't seem to understand.Edited by Idinuse on July 19, 2019 1:03PMSed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium dolorem que laudantium, totam rem aperiam, eaque ipsa quae ab illo inventore veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt explicabo. Nemo enim ipsam voluptatem quia voluptas sit aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed quia consequuntur magni dolores eos qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt. Neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quaerat voluptatem. Ut enim ad minima veniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur? Quis autem vel eum iure reprehenderit qui in ea voluptate velit esse quam nihil molestiae consequatur, vel illum qui dolorem eum fugiat quo voluptas nulla pariatur?4 -
Delparis✭✭✭✭✭I don't care about buff and nerf anymore, if sorc is OP i play sorc, if nightblade is OP i play NB.
I always win3
