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Nerf to Pirate skeleton but not Bloodspawn?
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maxjapank✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Betty_Booms wrote: »Waaaaa waaaa i lost my pirate skele... nerf everything else now... waaaa
Was that your reaction to Pirate Skelly? Were you one of the criers?1 -
mairwen85✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Betty_Booms wrote: »Waaaaa waaaa i lost my pirate skele... nerf everything else now... waaaa
Was that your reaction to Pirate Skelly? Were you one of the criers?
Every nerf leads to:
https://youtu.be/FZsvYnyIvr4
It's a vicious cycle of tears, teeth and wit...Edited by mairwen85 on July 16, 2019 6:08AM0 -
maxjapank✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Every nerf leads to: It's a vicious cycle of tears, teeth and wit...
Not gonna list your video or watch it. But all I've ever asked was for stuff to be buffed rather than nerfing the valuable sets left in the game. We are losing variety and flavor. We are being forced into the same sets. And it amazes me how much Stamina / dps players have gotten stuff nerfed because they can't get the kill the want.
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mairwen85✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Betty_Booms wrote: »Waaaaa waaaa i lost my pirate skele... nerf everything else now... waaaa
Was that your reaction to Pirate Skelly? Were you one of the criers?Every nerf leads to: It's a vicious cycle of tears, teeth and wit...
Not gonna list your video or watch it. But all I've ever asked was for stuff to be buffed rather than nerfing the valuable sets left in the game. We are losing variety and flavor. We are being forced into the same sets. And it amazes me how much Stamina / dps players have gotten stuff nerfed because they can't get the kill the want.
Just saying you can't pigeon hole nerfs like that. Problem is nerf this buff that mentality isn't working... Things should be pvp balanced before release; whether intended for pvp or pve, people will find something to crutch on or exploit for gain, all nerfing/buffing does is shift focus.1 -
Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭"These changes were done to adhere the set to our itemization standards, and was prioritized over others as a large callout by the community that this set was enabling far too much protection with too little draw back."
Translation: we are going to nerf more, this just got handled first because of the whining.10 -
Massacre_Wurm✭✭✭✭✭How about nerfing some DAMAGE ? You can start with proc sets in no cp especially.
Why you always going for defence and utility ?4 -
Skinzz✭✭✭✭✭Massacre_Wurm wrote: »How about nerfing some DAMAGE ? You can start with proc sets in no cp especially.
Why you always going for defence and utility ?
Yup so true. Only defence and utility gets nerfed. I guess were all forced to play hot potato builds now with 7000 weapon damage and no survivability.Edited by Skinzz on July 16, 2019 7:10AMAnybody got a group? LFG, anybody? Hello?3 -
dem0n1k✭✭✭✭✭
✭This whole thread just reeks of 'wah, they nerfed my thing... but didn't nerf their thing! wahh!'
'overperforming' is just negative spin on 'good'.NA Server [PC] -- Mostly Ebonheart Pact, Mostly.2 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »I play stamdk.
Betty
Jcm
Hit and a miss
So, let me get this straight. You're playing the one class, no the one sub-class in this game, that synergises with Bloodspawn the most, and you're crying about how apparently OP it is?
I swear, each time I *** read these forums, it's like being beat over the head with a mallet by a *** bodybuilder, that's how many brain cells I lose.
Isnt it crazy that some1 isnt biased in these forums? Did you lose more at the revelation?Edited by GeorgeBlack on July 16, 2019 7:56AM1 -
GeorgeBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Massacre_Wurm wrote: »How about nerfing some DAMAGE ? You can start with proc sets in no cp especially.
Why you always going for defence and utility ?
Oh I have countless times asked for all dmg proc sets to be removed. Got kinda the same responses you see here.
People raging and making bad guesses.0 -
TriangularChicken✭✭✭✭Massacre_Wurm wrote: »How about nerfing some DAMAGE ? You can start with proc sets in no cp especially.
Why you always going for defence and utility ?
can you name the proc sets you feel are too strong in no cp? zaan is the only one i can think of (maybe its fine, probably just me not feeling good to fight someone using zaan), every other set got nerfed and got counterplay (which was good).
@ OP: don't you think it's time to stop posting *** on the forums? or at least distinguish between cp and no cp? In an environment where you can't mitigate damage simply by having more CP than other players you need sets like BS. I hope ZOS is changing CPs soon so that the crying to nerf sets finally stops.0 -
MaxJrFTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Take care of The Troll King, and Engine Guardian while you're at it. Balorgh isn't far behind."I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."
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MaxJrFTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Bloodspawn only has a 6% chance to proc resistances and ulti, which is affected my penetration, Major Protection had very little counters.
With the nerfs to the heavy armor sets that proc weapon damage, many will choose to wear medium instead.
DoTs proc it pretty much on cooldown. Not only is the 6k+ resistance too much, but there's also the 14 ult. Nothing else in the game gives that much ultimate. Did i mention stam recovery? Well, i have now."I don't know you, and I don't care to know you."
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Rygonix✭✭✭✭✭Sure, while you're at it let's cook up some nerfs for Bogdan's too, since you know every healer is going to be using it since it's the only monster set worth a damn to us any more.
Incase you missed it I was being sarcastic. Lets stop nerfing things based on popularity please. I saw WoW and their idiot developers follow that same trend, and any ex-WoW player can tell you how that turned out.Ceres Des Mortem-Dark Elf Templar, EP
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Betty_Booms✭✭✭To all new and casual players. There is no need to aspire for monster sets anymore. They wont be worth acquiring.0
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Girl_Number8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »I play stamdk.
Betty
Jcm
Hit and a miss
Lol, you play Zergling, I mean Nerfiling.3 -
Girl_Number8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭GeorgeBlack wrote: »I play stamdk.
Betty
Jcm
Hit and a miss
So, let me get this straight. You're playing the one class, no the one sub-class in this game, that synergises with Bloodspawn the most, and you're crying about how apparently OP it is?
I swear, each time I *** read these forums, it's like being beat over the head with a mallet by a *** bodybuilder, that's how many brain cells I lose.
Nah, it is just a low tier Nerfiling, LMAO.
These nerf threads are so telling.
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UndeniablyAVG✭✭✭✭IMO, Blood Spawn should be used as a benchmark to buff the other sets. This set is great and has many different applications, but I don’t think it’s OP and needs a nerf. More monster sets should be on par with it so there’s more choice.PS4 EU - Daggerfall Covenant
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LeHarrt91✭✭✭✭✭
✭Bloodspawn only has a 6% chance to proc resistances and ulti, which is affected my penetration, Major Protection had very little counters.
With the nerfs to the heavy armor sets that proc weapon damage, many will choose to wear medium instead.
DoTs proc it pretty much on cooldown. Not only is the 6k+ resistance too much, but there's also the 14 ult. Nothing else in the game gives that much ultimate. Did i mention stam recovery? Well, i have now.
Sure, when you have multiple dots going it can proc more often and when outnumbered it procs a lot, but a lot of the heavy armor sets that enabled players to be tanky and deal a lot of damage were nerfed. This is very much just a utility set, penetration is a counter to this set, heck even corrosive and onslaught ignore this set.
Major Protection didn’t have this many counters, but I will say I think the PS nerf was heavy handed.PS NA
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Zer0_CooL✭✭✭✭✭
✭You could aswell just ask to nerf the other players, might happen exclusively for you. Or even better, ask for emp skill line purchasable in crownstore.
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Onefrkncrzypope✭✭✭✭✭
✭lord warden gives too much utility too... lmao BS is basically just like hundings or juli. It's back when this game was closer to balance. OP BS? Now that is some BS.-Immortal Redeemer-
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If I edited a post, it was for spelling. It is always because of spelling....4 -
Burtan✭✭✭✭BloodSpawn isn't overperforming in any way except for maybe in the case of PvE tanking where it is in most cases the only reasonable thing to use. This is because most tanking and group support related monster sets are completely terrible cough Vykosa cough.
In PvP, BloodSpawn isn't being overused at all like Pirate Skeleton is and for most stamina specs it is easily comparable to sets such as Balorgh, Troll King, Selene, Skoria and Thurvokyn. BloodSpawn only becomes overused in the case of StamDK because it has such great synergy with it. This doesn't mean the set should be nerfed for everyone else.Edited by Burtan on July 16, 2019 10:55AM1 -
Mrsinister2✭✭✭✭✭This is how it starts soon blood spawn will give you major vulnerability and remove 18 ult
Hope everyone's happy with losing build options 8 -
maxjapank✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭BloodSpawn isn't overperforming in any way...In PvP, BloodSpawn isn't being overused
Really? For nearly every Stam pvp player, this is the go to set. Always has been. Now, it's a toss up between Balorgh and Bloodspawn. Occasionally Troll King. But in the end, every Stam comes back to Bloodspawn. It's just too good to pass up. Not only is the mitigation large, but the Ulti gen is op. Oh, yeah. It was nerfed once from 15 Ulti to 14. lol.1 -
Olupajmibanan✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Can we just stop nerfing PvE things because of PvP? PvP in this game absolutely suck and no pro-gamer gives a flying f about it. There is no chance this game gets to esports so there is zero need to balance whole game around PvP. Answer is separate balancing for PvE and PvP but ZoS is too stubborn (or lazy?) to do it.3
