Who are bows for after this patch?

JadaMaru · July 2019

It seems like all the new DPS builds coming out of the PTS are 2H/DW. That's fine - it makes more sense than shooting a bow at something from point blank range during melee.

But who are bows for after this patch? DPS won't use them much. Tanks won't use them. Their range isn't good enough to engage in legitimate ranged combat. They don't do enough damage to compensate for quick gap closing.

I could see mag users who already have ranged attacks using bows to compliment but their damage with a stamina based weapon won't be good enough to waste a whole bar on a bow.

Are they going to be relegated to PVP sieges / wall defense?

Sandman929 · July 2019

Snipe spamming will never die.

LiquidPony · July 2019

Eh?

2H/DW is viable but Bow/DW is still BiS for PvE.

SodanTok · July 2019

Endless Hail is bugged currently. So any parse with it isnt in full potential of either hail or vma bow.

After that is done it should remain as minmaxer choice of backbar weapon. With that being the only use of this weapon. Truth is bow was never good weapon and relied heavily on being carried by power of vma endless hail, or power or spider synergy or power of relequen (that nerf will come one day too) or power of snipe bugs in pvp.

With balance patches like these its just going to get worse as a weapon until it finally gets own attention.

LiquidPony · July 2019

SodanTok wrote: »

Endless Hail is bugged currently. So any parse with it isnt in full potential of either hail or vma bow.

After that is done it should remain as minmaxer choice of backbar weapon. With that being the only use of this weapon. Truth is bow was never good weapon and relied heavily on being carried by power of vma endless hail, or power or spider synergy or power of relequen (that nerf will come one day too).

With balance patches like these its just going to get worse as a weapon until it finally gets own attention.

Master Bow/DW is still outperforming 2H/DW setups. Poison Injection is extremely strong right now.

SodanTok · July 2019

LiquidPony wrote: »

SodanTok wrote: »

Endless Hail is bugged currently. So any parse with it isnt in full potential of either hail or vma bow.

After that is done it should remain as minmaxer choice of backbar weapon. With that being the only use of this weapon. Truth is bow was never good weapon and relied heavily on being carried by power of vma endless hail, or power or spider synergy or power of relequen (that nerf will come one day too).

With balance patches like these its just going to get worse as a weapon until it finally gets own attention.

Master Bow/DW is still outperforming 2H/DW setups. Poison Injection is extremely strong right now.

Its only 'extremely' strong in combination with DW. Notably VMA DW. It does nothing to help bow/bow keeping even relevant anymore.

BeefyMrTips · July 2019

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kpwGAqMbHC0&t=20s

105k stam sorc using bow

But there are some interesting dw/2h builds👍🏻

ChunkyCat · July 2019

Fear not, my young little Bowtard! For the mother of all spammables, the all mighty Snipe, is now 9 percent stronger!! Hail to the muthaf***ng Snipe!

Now run forth and spam away.

MartiniDaniels · July 2019

ChunkyCat wrote: »

Fear not, my young little Bowtard! For the mother of all spammables, the all mighty Snipe, is now 9 percent stronger!! Hail to the muthaf***ng Snipe!

Now run forth and spam away.

I tested it and reached 35k snipe with corrosive with no-CP distribited. Obviously halved by battlespirit and requires corrosive to range negate resistances but still... and it was without balorgh. Even small buff to snipe is dangerous, devs better revert it.