An Open letter regarding the WW nerfs, Sorc nerfs, Soul assault nerf, and Group Healing nerfs.

ccfeeling · July 2019

Enchancement cut half, bleeding nerfed , all skill cost increased, healing nerfed
Zos, why dont remove WW in the game seriously?
You dont have to think about the futher nerf to WW.

During Non WW form, our output likes a garbage, and u guys keep to nerf WW form performance, it doesnt make sense, when WW form dps output worser than other builds, there is no reason we play WW with so many limitation.

peacenote · July 2019

khajiitNPC wrote: »

These are great changes. For both PvE and PvP. Also for all playstyles. It’s like ZOS has finally taken the training wheels off. We learning how to ride tonight baby!

What's funny about this is, as a healer, I feel the exact opposite. I feel like I **had** a motorcycle and am now being forced to ride a tricycle, what with all my main abilities only being able to be active one at a time now. The training wheels are slapped ON so no way can I jump a curb or do anything cool. Only the boring sidewalks for me when before I could take risks and drive on the highway.

Everyone's perspective is different, I guess.

shaielzafine · July 2019

thermatico wrote: »

The best part of the patch is the note that says it will fix Cyrodiil lag. Man, I am so excited.

Nice, let's see if it's actually a fix or like the other past "fixes". It would be great if they actually improved something

Wuuffyy · July 2019

templesus wrote: »

I love them all. Every single one. Good work Gilliam👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾.

I wanna nerf you lol.

Beardimus · July 2019

This forum loves an 'Open letter'

Such an odd term. Every thread is one lol

Sevalaricgirl · July 2019

Thogard wrote: »

Many of us play multiple classes and have a more objective opinion on balance.

Those are the people who are liking these notes

Yeah right. I have 2 of every class and I don't like the changes. I think they completely go overboard on nerfs instead of balancing the correct way and all of my friends have left the game because of it. I am a guild leader and I have one guild member that plays on a semi regular basis. All the rest have left the game for good.

Savos_Saren · July 2019

Thogard wrote: »

Many of us play multiple classes and have a more objective opinion on balance.

Those are the people who are liking these notes

@Thogard

Is this seriously a thread that's defending the nerf of the most OP/broken builds in this game?

-Pet Sorcs
-Werewolves
-Bleeds
-7th Legion
-Fury
-Cloak

ZoS has already taken care of Wings, Sorc Shields, Surprise Attack, and Shalks (which were all OP). This patch sounds like the most balanced so far. I love it.

Wuuffyy · July 2019

Savos_Saren wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

Many of us play multiple classes and have a more objective opinion on balance.

Those are the people who are liking these notes

@Thogard

Is this seriously a thread that's defending the most OP/broken builds in this game?

-Pet Sorcs
-Werewolves
-Bleeds
-7th Legion
-Fury
-Cloak

ZoS has already taken care of Wings, Sorc Shields, Surprise Attack, and Shalks (which were all OP). This patch sounds like the most balanced so far.

Heavy armor sets yes but didn't make med sets better...

Sorcs pets overnerfed.

Werewolf not op for real try it. Below 50 cp bgs or bg pre mades shouldn't be a benchmark for anything. Especially since the fault is in their matchmaking.

Cloak is counter able by many ways.

Bleeds served a purpose to counter heavy armor users. Now name one thing that doesn't gimp you that you can use to kill them without beating through 5min of bs.

SoLooney · July 2019

Nerf sorcs till they're useless, thank you

Savos_Saren · July 2019

Sevalaricgirl wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

Many of us play multiple classes and have a more objective opinion on balance.

Those are the people who are liking these notes

Yeah right. I have 2 of every class and I don't like the changes. I think they completely go overboard on nerfs instead of balancing the correct way and all of my friends have left the game because of it. I am a guild leader and I have one guild member that plays on a semi regular basis. All the rest have left the game for good.

I have 2 of every class as well. I can also look objectively at each class and say "Yeah... this is a little OP..." on each class. However, it also helps me identify the weak points of each class as well.

Yes, my MagDK's wings were OP.
Yes, my MagNB's cloak is OP.
Yes, my MagSorc's Heals/LOS/Damage from pets is OP.
Yes, my MagTemplar's Heals/Purge is OP.
Yes, my MagDen's Permafrost is OP.
Yes, my MagCro's… uh... er… group synergies are OP?

Qbiken · July 2019

Got to love the "ooggaaa booga wW oP" squad.

Savos_Saren · July 2019

Wolf_Watching wrote: »

Savos_Saren wrote: »

Thogard wrote: »

Many of us play multiple classes and have a more objective opinion on balance.

Those are the people who are liking these notes

@Thogard

Is this seriously a thread that's defending the most OP/broken builds in this game?

-Pet Sorcs
-Werewolves
-Bleeds
-7th Legion
-Fury
-Cloak

ZoS has already taken care of Wings, Sorc Shields, Surprise Attack, and Shalks (which were all OP). This patch sounds like the most balanced so far.

Heavy armor sets yes but didn't make med sets better...

Sorcs pets overnerfed.

Werewolf not op for real try it. Below 50 cp bgs or bg pre mades shouldn't be a benchmark for anything. Especially since the fault is in their matchmaking.

Cloak is counter able by many ways.

Bleeds served a purpose to counter heavy armor users. Now name one thing that doesn't gimp you that you can use to kill them without beating through 5min of bs.

ZOS upped the damage of Stam weapon attacks- so that helped Stam DDs.

Sorc pets aren't overnerfed. They provide a hell of a lot of utility. Extra health, heals, damage, extra heals from crit damage, line of sight...

Werewolf was the stam version of pet Sorcs. They had high damage, high heals, and could have a plethora of pets to help.

Cloak is "counterable" is you keep detect pots slotted (which offer little help to a player once they've been ambushed by a NB) and the detect skills (inner light, expert hunter) are atrocious.

Let's be real: bleeds didn't offer a solution to just HEAVY armor builds. They effected medium and light armor builds as well. They were detrimental to ALL builds. Now, the true counter to high health, heavy armor builds will be a combination of bleed and oblivion damage... which is as it should be.

humpalicous · July 2019

Anyone who agrees that this is a good patch is not looking at the bigger picture

Sergykid · July 2019

humpalicous wrote: »

Anyone who agrees that this is a good patch is not looking at the bigger picture

Anyone who agrees that this is a good patch is looking at the bigger picture

Tommy_The_Gun · July 2019

templesus wrote: »

I love them all. Every single one. Good work Gilliam👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾.

I sense strong sarcasm... I mean you possibly can't be serious...

Qbiken · July 2019

Werewolf was the stam version of pet Sorcs. They had high damage, high heals, and could have a plethora of pets to help

I mean, you would have a point if werewolfs offered any kind of group utility or heal that can help anyone but themselves (but newsflash: they don't). Werewolf was never close to perform as well as a magsorc with pets (duels and sub50/low MMR BG doesn't count as benchmark)

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

templesus wrote: »

I love them all. Every single one. Good work Gilliam👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾.

I sense strong sarcasm... I mean you possibly can't be serious...

He's serious, but don't worry, he still won't be able to deal with the ww groups on his server (PS4 NA) after next patch

ZOS_RikardD · July 2019

Greetings,

We have decided to close this thread as it is not constructive. Please remember to keep posts constructive and civil in the future.

Thank you for your understanding.