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[URGENT] Pyramid Scheme regarding Wolf/Vamp bite sales.
Shidapu
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Is Zenimax doing something about this??..
Its a pyramid game, all of it.
First person sells bite, buyer sells the bite.
And it continues until the lower people looses in the line.
There is no win, only loose. And the people getting away with it, is the people camping the spots so that people can't get bites the legitimate way.
Edited by Shidapu on April 14, 2014 2:07PM Its a pyramid game, all of it.
First person sells bite, buyer sells the bite.
And it continues until the lower people looses in the line.
There is no win, only loose. And the people getting away with it, is the people camping the spots so that people can't get bites the legitimate way.
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jpsgamingb14_ESO✭✭✭As many people have said. It should be a quest line that you can do for either one...4 -
Valn✭✭✭✭✭jpsgamingb14_ESO wrote: »As many people have said. It should be a quest line that you can do for either one...
No it shouldn't. Otherwise everyone would be a vampire or werewolf. It's no fun if everyone can get everything easy
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the only thing thats pyramidal is the availability of it, each person can continue to bite more people, which will increase the availability and decrease the cost, ***, bites are already down 25-50% in price since I first became a vampire.1 -
Hearts✭✭✭Pyramid Scheme would be that the top one gets the money when the lower ones sell, that doesnt happen.
Its more of a monopoly, the top guilds kill every vampire/werewolf and then sell teh bites, or so the rumour goes.3 -
Shidapu✭dbennett707cub18_ESO wrote: »the only thing thats pyramidal is the availability of it, each person can continue to bite more people, which will increase the availability and decrease the cost, ***, bites are already down 25-50% in price since I first became a vampire.
Bite prices is ever changing, sometimes its 15k, sometimes 75k, your reasoning is flawed.
And btw, there are now guilds created to stop people from getting the bites legitimately, to keep the prices high. Go figure.1 -
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✭no it shouldn't be a quest line it should be random events that happen in the world that is completely unpredictable and uncampable or obtainable from ANY vampire/werewolf
if you just make a quest to get it it would be a lot less awesome.3 -
dbennett707cub18_ESO wrote: »the only thing thats pyramidal is the availability of it, each person can continue to bite more people, which will increase the availability and decrease the cost, ***, bites are already down 25-50% in price since I first became a vampire.
Bite prices is ever changing, sometimes its 15k, sometimes 75k, your reasoning is flawed.
And btw, there are now guilds created to stop people from getting the bites legitimately, to keep the prices high. Go figure.
My reasoning is sound, on average the prices are lower, on DF if you tried to get 75k for a bite you'd get laughed out of the zone. *** if you want it that bad, ill bite you for 15k on DF.0 -
Shidapu✭dbennett707cub18_ESO wrote: »dbennett707cub18_ESO wrote: »the only thing thats pyramidal is the availability of it, each person can continue to bite more people, which will increase the availability and decrease the cost, ***, bites are already down 25-50% in price since I first became a vampire.
Bite prices is ever changing, sometimes its 15k, sometimes 75k, your reasoning is flawed.
And btw, there are now guilds created to stop people from getting the bites legitimately, to keep the prices high. Go figure.
My reasoning is sound, on average the prices are lower, on DF if you tried to get 75k for a bite you'd get laughed out of the zone. *** if you want it that bad, ill bite you for 15k on DF.
I'd rather wait it out until Zenimax fixes this instead. No way im spending that hard earned cash on something that should be obtainable with legitimate means.3 -
mun✭Its not a pyramid scheme, the people at the top don't benefit in any way from biting others after initial payment.
If they are killing the rares to impede people from being able to get the bite, that is pretty low.
I agree with @Laura... make it randomly happen anywhere in the world where you find a vampire or werewolf. Like Oblivion... hmmmm?Edited by mun on April 13, 2014 8:32PM0 -
All it takes is one guildie to get bitten, then it should trickle through your group of friends.1
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Shidapu✭ijacksparrowed wrote: »Such cries
Thanks for the bumping.
Its not a pyramid scheme, the people at the top don't benefit in any way from biting others after initial payment.
If they are killing the rares to impede people from being able to get the bite, that is pretty low.
I agree with @Laura... make it randomly happen anywhere in the world where you find a vampire or werewolf. Like Oblivion... hmmmm?
I agree on the solution to keep it more random than it is today, to stop the griefing.
I still think it is a pyramid scheme. Because this behavior spreads with every person who buys the bite..
Why? Because the person who buys, have lost some ingame currency, now to fix this, they resell it to either get the hard earned money back, or to make a profit.
It's a risky business, as is Pyramid Schemes.0 -
Shidapu✭Something just hit me, fixing this issue with Bite griefers, would potentially do some good to the Gold Buyers..
Imagine the sad new people joining in to play this game, realizing you need X amount of currency to be that vampire or werewolf.. Now they see spam of gold sellers in chat, and thinks, hey maybe i should check it out, because it will take weeks or god knows how long, and they buy, they later get banned, this turns into a sad story?..
If by fixing this, less people would fall for buying gold, would not create this "feel" to be forced to buy gold if you are low lvl and really want to be a vampire or werewolf.
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AlliN✭✭✭After some time, when one Fighter's Guild skill will be mandatory in PVP, the price will go down. For PVE, who cares really. It's not game breaking and does not affect anyone.
Also, Pyramide Scheme works quite differently. The idea of it is for the starters of pyramide (first sellers) to profit most on the increasing ammount of newcomers.
It works like that - I'm selling you rights to sell something for a "special reduced price", and when you sell it next time, I get 10% (this part always go to me, with every sale.) Then, If you sell it next time, you get 10% of 90% (becasue 10% is for me), and the next person you;ve recruited will get [100%-10%(for me)]-9%(for you). And so on, and so on.
So, each new person get's a smaller share of the main part, requiring more people recruited to equal the earnings of higher level participant. And I'm always getting 10% with every new member. And each level get's a smaller percent derived from smaller percent of 100%, the lower the level gets.
that's a Pyramide Scheme. I sell a bite for 5k, you sell it for 5k and so on, first person gains nothing, that's not a pyramide.Edited by AlliN on April 14, 2014 2:09PM1 -
SinisterJoint✭✭✭no it shouldn't be a quest line it should be random events that happen in the world that is completely unpredictable and uncampable or obtainable from ANY vampire/werewolf
if you just make a quest to get it it would be a lot less awesome.
By far the BEST solution. make it happen zenimax!
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Iorail✭✭✭✭Log out and in until you hit a phase without camping, problem solve, that's how I did it. Take full advantage of the crappy phasing system people!0
