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Fixed an issue where you were able to swap out abilities during combat. why did you do this?

Sinolai
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You were only able to swap abilities if you had not done or taken damage in ~10seconds. That is exactly how it is supposed to work. not the way how we are locked in combat for 30 minutes and cant swap any skills.
  • code65536
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    Being able to change skills in combat if you hadn't dealt or taken damage in a period of time isn't an "issue". It's the way the game should work. It's insulting that they would waste time fixing an "issue" that nobody complains about and that makes their stuck-in-combat bugs slightly more tolerable while leaving actual real issues festering.
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  • FakeFox
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    Great that the only good additions to this god damn game lately are bugs. How about removing animation canceling next?
    Edited by FakeFox on July 1, 2019 11:27AM
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  • Lord_Bidr
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    I wonder when they'll fix the Rapid Maneuver bug...getting kinda sick of hitting it and having it apply to everyone else but me.
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  • Cathexis
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    Lol because it was totally overpowered?

    But here's the thing, fix the stuck in combat bug.
    Because holy ***, we still need to be able to change skills in general. Preferably without mashing out a /reloadui.
    Edited by Cathexis on July 1, 2019 12:20PM
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  • yodased
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    Well being a nightblade and cloaking away to alot heals or a shield or another buff while the rest of the classes cant disengage to swap skills or a specific streaking and hiding to alot more heals again is broken.

    Cant swap skills in combat. That's the rules.
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  • colossalvoids
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    They just have no idea what they're doing at this point, it was the best in combat bug counter and we will be locked from playing again for some obscure reason.
  • leepalmer95
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    Yet for 3 yrs i've been constantly been stuck in combat unable to get on my mount.

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    yodased wrote: »
    Well being a nightblade and cloaking away to alot heals or a shield or another buff while the rest of the classes cant disengage to swap skills or a specific streaking and hiding to alot more heals again is broken.

    Cant swap skills in combat. That's the rules.

    Nobody cares.
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    It was probably the easiest and fastest thing to do and that Intern could manage. Otherwise there wouldnt have been any patchnotes at all this week :D:D:D:D
    Edited by xMovingTarget on July 1, 2019 8:42PM
  • Insandros
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    yodased wrote: »
    Well being a nightblade and cloaking away to alot heals or a shield or another buff while the rest of the classes cant disengage to swap skills or a specific streaking and hiding to alot more heals again is broken.

    Cant swap skills in combat. That's the rules.

    Nobody cares.

    Seems like nobody at ZoS cares about what you don't care huh? ;)

    Able to change skill in combat is absurd, specialy in a game that there is addons that swap you bars in a second, you don't even need to slot them yourself. You guys would had been crying in GW back then that you had to choose 8 skills and deal with them until you head back to town :)
    Edited by Insandros on July 2, 2019 12:33AM
  • Sinolai
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    Insandros wrote: »
    yodased wrote: »
    Well being a nightblade and cloaking away to alot heals or a shield or another buff while the rest of the classes cant disengage to swap skills or a specific streaking and hiding to alot more heals again is broken.

    Cant swap skills in combat. That's the rules.

    Nobody cares.

    Seems like nobody at ZoS cares about what you don't care huh? ;)

    Able to change skill in combat is absurd, specialy in a game that there is addons that swap you bars in a second, you don't even need to slot them yourself. You guys would had been crying in GW back then that you had to choose 8 skills and deal with them until you head back to town :)

    There was still a requirement of not taking or dealing damage. You dont generally swap skills midist a duel in cyrodiil becouse you already have (or should have) your best pvp skills in bar. Gear could not be swapped mid fight anyways so I dont think there was a problem.
    This "Bug" was used in cyrodiil when the keep doors were breached to switch into full defense set (becouse who in their right mind would duel with time stop, volcanic rune, daedric tomb and siege shield in their bar?), slot new siege weapons in quick slots and in trials by dying/hiding in a corner and swapping skills becouse you forgot to slot something essential. Now we are again stuck with offensive skills in defensive fight and must wipe whole Group so that 1 player can slot his/her purge.
    Edited by Sinolai on July 2, 2019 8:34AM
  • TheYKcid
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    They killed one of the best QoL adjustments we've seen in recent patches.

    Well done, ZOS. Well done.
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  • Juhasow
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    If they could atleast 1st fix the issue with staying in combat even if enemy like guard in Cyrodill is already on the 2nd side of the map and havnt been doing any dmg since like 10 minutes...

    It's horrible that they decide to make some "improvements" without fully fixing the bugs that are influencing those improvements in a bad way which just causes customer frustration.
    Edited by Juhasow on July 2, 2019 10:17AM
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    code65536 wrote: »
    Being able to change skills in combat if you hadn't dealt or taken damage in a period of time isn't an "issue". It's the way the game should work. It's insulting that they would waste time fixing an "issue" that nobody complains about and that makes their stuck-in-combat bugs slightly more tolerable while leaving actual real issues festering.

    Not just this but the in combat bug was worsened when they made this change. Never before was I put into combat when no one, NPC or player, was around, no negative effects, damage taken or done. The extended in-combat is much more frequent and longer lasting since they made the change.

    Matt has always set poor priorities with the ESO teams and it makes amazing professionals look amateurish.
  • Davadin
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    being able to switch skill in combat in PC server would be unbelievably overpowered.


    reason: add-on.


    Allowing me to switch skill in combat would effectively give me unlimited number of skill bars....
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    code65536 wrote: »
    Being able to change skills in combat if you hadn't dealt or taken damage in a period of time isn't an "issue". It's the way the game should work. It's insulting that they would waste time fixing an "issue" that nobody complains about and that makes their stuck-in-combat bugs slightly more tolerable while leaving actual real issues festering.

    Agreed. They can't fix stuck in combat, but this for some reason was a top priority.
  • usmcjdking
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    I thought this bug was a temporary fix to the stuck in combat issue lmao.
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  • Dojohoda
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    Nvm
    Edited by Dojohoda on July 2, 2019 6:52PM
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  • p00tx
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    Insandros wrote: »
    yodased wrote: »
    Well being a nightblade and cloaking away to alot heals or a shield or another buff while the rest of the classes cant disengage to swap skills or a specific streaking and hiding to alot more heals again is broken.

    Cant swap skills in combat. That's the rules.

    Nobody cares.

    Seems like nobody at ZoS cares about what you don't care huh? ;)

    Able to change skill in combat is absurd, specialy in a game that there is addons that swap you bars in a second, you don't even need to slot them yourself. You guys would had been crying in GW back then that you had to choose 8 skills and deal with them until you head back to town :)

    Consoles exist, and we don't get add-on crutches. This "bug" was a life saver for us.
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  • Grandma
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    this is the first time i'm disappointed they patched a bug. This was very nice and made a lot of sense, especially when traveling the overworld to dragons and unslotting rapids.
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  • idk
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    code65536 wrote: »
    Being able to change skills in combat if you hadn't dealt or taken damage in a period of time isn't an "issue". It's the way the game should work. It's insulting that they would waste time fixing an "issue" that nobody complains about and that makes their stuck-in-combat bugs slightly more tolerable while leaving actual real issues festering.

    Agreed. They can't fix stuck in combat, but this for some reason was a top priority.

    The change Code mentioned is what likely brought about this worsened stuck in combat issue. It occurred the same update.

    That is why I have said Zos is choosing to permit it to continue and considers it a very low priority since they will not roll back the change.

    We can thank the wisdom of Matt Firor for this as he is the one who is responsible for these decision.
  • Sinolai
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    Davadin wrote: »
    being able to switch skill in combat in PC server would be unbelievably overpowered.


    reason: add-on.


    Allowing me to switch skill in combat would effectively give me unlimited number of skill bars....

    I dont think you read anything apart from the title so I'll write this 3rd time for you :tongue: :

    It still required you not to do or take damage for 10 seconds. Basically only a nightblade and sorcerer could do that mid fight and it still requires them to run several circles and waste resources to get hiding/LoS so they wont be back to fight with their new skills immediately. If you are good they wont even have chance to switch skillsd despite the bug excisting.

    Besides, if you can avoid combat for 10 second shouldn't you already be out of combat? ZoS has confirmed that the 30 minutes combat duration in Cyrodiil is not supposed to happen but they dont know how to fix it.
    Edited by Sinolai on July 6, 2019 7:38PM
  • yodased
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    yodased wrote: »
    Well being a nightblade and cloaking away to alot heals or a shield or another buff while the rest of the classes cant disengage to swap skills or a specific streaking and hiding to alot more heals again is broken.

    Cant swap skills in combat. That's the rules.

    Nobody cares.

    Only the people who created update the game. Specifically the only people who actually matter cared and fixed it

    So you can try to dig at me all you want, you are still gonna have to deal with it.
    Edited by yodased on July 6, 2019 7:35PM
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • colossalvoids
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    They should really consider undoing their "fix" and go deeper into stuck in combat state bug instead.
  • MehrunesFlagon
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    yodased wrote: »
    yodased wrote: »
    Well being a nightblade and cloaking away to alot heals or a shield or another buff while the rest of the classes cant disengage to swap skills or a specific streaking and hiding to alot more heals again is broken.

    Cant swap skills in combat. That's the rules.

    Nobody cares.

    Only the people who created update the game. Specifically the only people who actually matter cared and fixed it

    So you can try to dig at me all you want, you are still gonna have to deal with it.

    and honestly still don't care because it's not an actual issue.
  • Flame_of_Hades
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    FakeFox wrote: »
    Great that the only good additions to this god damn game lately are bugs. How about removing animation canceling next?

    They did, with ultimate abilities
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