Ohtimbar wrote: »

bulbousb16_ESO wrote: »

I like the idea, as it is conceptually clean and simple.

Help me understand how it is "clean and simple" that a character would have a static faction allegiance in PvE but have a variable one for Cyrodiil? It's preposterous on it's face, from a conceptual standpoint.

It is simple from a conceptual perspective: the account, not the character(s), would be faction-locked. On a technical level, it may be difficult to implement, but no one outside of the company actually knows that for certain. It doesn't seem preposterous to me, compared to dragons and elves and so forth. It is strange from a lore/rp point of view, but I've found few pvpers who care about that sort of thing (at least while pvping).

ZOS has stated that changing fractions would be very difficult to do. Considering that the 3-banner war is very important in ESO in story telling I don’t see them changing their minds or attempting to do a fraction change.

Would it be possible that whenever campaigns restart every 7 to 30 days then the first time you enter Cyrodill that you select an alliance for your account that only applies to Cyrodill for that 7 to 30 days. This way it would not matter what alliance your character was when created because you would have to choose a new alliance every 7-30 days for your account that only applies to Cyrodill for that campaign.

Just my thoughts, I don’t really play in Cyrodill very much so if my idea sounds dumb it comes form not much experience in Cyrodill.

Excellent idea, thank you!

I am a serious PvE'er and a casual PvP'er. I enjoy both. I have never, EVER tried to manipulate the fight or switched in the middle or purposely sided with a winning campaign to get extra rewards. I just want to enter a server with enough space so my friends and I can both get in and play together with a reasonable queue time.

Faction lock was incredibly confusing to me at first. Now I understand why it might be desirable (having asked around and learned about all of the tactics mentioned above), but it is a HUGE pain for me. I made a few characters a different faction for fun, not having any idea that I'd end up being locked out of a certain type of campaign for a long period of time in the future.

The hard core "faction matters" went out the window with One Tamriel and the "Any Race, Any Alliance" option. This is a great compromise.

Guys, you cannot change the alliance of EXISTING characters with any race. That's the problem!!

Sanctum74 wrote: »

Great idea, but please stop with the "locked out of playing certain characters" nonsense. Zos was very generous to still allow an unlocked campaign as wells as bg's, IC, and there's still pve so none of your characters are locked and you can still play with your friends across various forms of content. Great idea though.

You know what NO!

Here's why: I had all AD characters BECAUSE OF ZOS RULES THAT I DELETED SOME OF to make other ones when ZOS CHANGED THE FRICKIN RULES now; I have YEARS invested into those characters and I am annoyed that I have to play in a weekly or no cp campaign with them because ZOS FLIPPED THE TABLE, AAAGAIN.

Just to hell with PVP anymore. I go get my transmutes and bail - y'all can keep all your empty brick buildings and cheat engineers and lag.

Just remove that trash lock or give us RP-free PVP area. There are many players who want to play with and versus other players, not walls, doors and NPC guards, without 4-men grouping.

BattleAxe wrote: »

The op idea however decent actually is very flawed skyshards locked behind scroll gates become irrelevant u just choose which factions u want and go till u get them all. Second any race any alliance would have no point being sold as each faction only has 4 races to choose from assuming you got imperial meaning you just choose alliance for race you want regardless wut alliance you wanna fight for and choose faction lock to that faction. 7 day campaign is not faction locked battlegrounds and imperial city are also not faction locked you wanna pvp with friends on different alliances use one of the alternatives.

One Tamriel

This is the most reasonable solution to this problem I've seen yet. But...

Ohtimbar wrote: »

It is simple from a conceptual perspective: the account, not the character(s), would be faction-locked. On a technical level, it may be difficult to implement, but no one outside of the company actually knows that for certain. It doesn't seem preposterous to me, compared to dragons and elves and so forth. It is strange from a lore/rp point of view, but I've found few pvpers who care about that sort of thing (at least while pvping).

I agree that the implementation is the issue. Using my imagination a bit and taking a guess at how this is structured... The greatest restrictions seem to lie in how the game ties a player to their account, and their character to their alliance, and therefor their leaderboards. If someone has characters in EP and DC, and has faction locked to DC(or any alliance combination for that matter), the game would need to reconcile AP gains and leaderboards in so many unnecessary ways; i.e. instead of the current 3 alliance configurations to account for, this will triple, and instead be nine permutations of account configurations to consider:

• EP Faction Locked
  1. AD chars
  2. DC chars
  3. AD + DC chars
• AD Faction Locked
  1. DC chars
  2. EP chars
  3. DC + EP chars
• DC Faction Locked
  1. AD chars
  2. EP chars
  3. AD + EP chars

I doubt that account bindings can facilitate reconciliation of these values either, because from what I've seen, most account-bound attributes in the game manage the permissions of content access by tracking character/account requisite achievements, if any. That all seems to be contained in it's own little ecosystem. Whereas performance based things are in their own ecosystem, and probably have many more variables, and have a much larger load on the system as a whole.

But, as you said, we just don't know from the outside looking in. There might be a solution in considering how trial leader boards are managed, but faction doesn't matter with those.

I don't want all my characters locked to one faction. I made them in different factions at the time for a reason.

I just rerolled one DC to AD but I want my others to stay in the faction they are in now.

So no, please don't lock them all to the same one if they were not originally in that one faction.

Sanctum74 wrote: »

Great idea, but please stop with the "locked out of playing certain characters" nonsense. Zos was very generous to still allow an unlocked campaign as wells as bg's, IC, and there's still pve so none of your characters are locked and you can still play with your friends across various forms of content. Great idea though.

Three alliances. Two 30 day campaigns that reward 50 crystals for tier 1. Id say that has something to do with it.

Aliyavana wrote: »

No this isn't a thread asking for the removal of faction locks, before someone misinterprets this thread.

I honestly don't care about faction loyalty, and those whom I fight are all are just either a good fight or just a source of Alliance Points for me. As a result of the faction loyalty locks, I am locked out of playing on some of my characters which has effected both my play time and the time I have invested in my characters. Since we are being locked to a faction in a campaign, why not let all of our characters fight for the faction we are locked into? I don't care about my character being created as an Aldmeri Dominion character, and the gameplay side of things doesn't either as cadwell's silver and gold exist (for those of you who will "mah immersions RP" as an excuse.)

So let my native AD character, who is locked out due to accidently going into Cyrodil with a EP character, fight for that insignificant Ebonheart Pact leader, the Skald King, if that will let me go back to enjoying PVP. Call it mercenary RP as I don't care about faction loyalty. I don't even have a no Cp non faction locked campaign to go to.

Before I get a "But its an alliance war! you should be playing for the faction!", remember, ESO's biggest motto is "play as you want".

I 100% agree! And I'm all 100% AD lol 😂 faction lock kinda makes no sense unless you can play all of your characters in it. Pick your alliance when you go into Cyro that month, and you're stuck with it, that makes total sense. But making you not be able to play characters you have put hard work into is absolutely absurd. We tried this experiment ZOS, it's not fun for many many players. Let's try letting them play their characters now! @ZOS_GinaBruno