Rapid regen; removing one negative effect is meaningless in pvp, the hot amount on mutagen is too small to do anything, and the health condition heal is the only decent thing about mutagen.

Mutagen

They're both extremely bad against decent players that actually have damage. The only real value in either morph is triggering the Transmutation set if you're wearing it and don't have a reliable HOT effect.

mutagen has a burst healing

I'd say it's 50/50 under typical conditions. But if you're backbarring a vMA resto, you definitely want RR.

Both are good, depending on what you need them for.

rapid regen

when mutagen procs it consumes the buff, meaning if you get to low health you get a wet fart of a heal and your hot just went away.

when I cast rapids I know I have a hot on me till its duration is up, and if all goes well its heal should help keep me from getting in the situation of being at critical low hp in the first place.

Derra wrote: »

TheYKcid wrote: »

I'd say it's 50/50 under typical conditions. But if you're backbarring a vMA resto, you definitely want RR.

This is somewhat incorrect.

Mutagen can procc precise regeneration every 2nd tick and has the chance to procc it 6x during it´s duration.
RR can procc it only every 3rd tick and because of this also only 4x.

Assuming it procs on cooldown. Which is obviously not a realistic expectation, since it's RNG-dependant due to the requirement for crits.

RR ticks at a higher rate, and therefore provides more opportunities to proc the set effect.

Your comparison also doesn't account for the duration disparity. Of course Muta could potentially have more procs per unit cast, simply because it lasts for longer. In reality, you'd be refreshing the buff on cooldown, so this ceases to be a factor.

You're also not considering the possibility of Mutagen beung consumed prematurely due to falling below the HP threshold.

TheYKcid wrote: »

Derra wrote: »

TheYKcid wrote: »

I'd say it's 50/50 under typical conditions. But if you're backbarring a vMA resto, you definitely want RR.

This is somewhat incorrect.

Mutagen can procc precise regeneration every 2nd tick and has the chance to procc it 6x during it´s duration.
RR can procc it only every 3rd tick and because of this also only 4x.

Assuming it procs on cooldown. Which is obviously not a realistic expectation, since it's RNG-dependant due to the requirement for crits.

RR ticks at a higher rate, and therefore provides more opportunities to proc the set effect.

Your comparison also doesn't account for the duration disparity. Of course Muta could potentially have more procs per unit cast, simply because it lasts for longer. In reality, you'd be refreshing the buff on cooldown, so this ceases to be a factor.

You're also not considering the possibility of Mutagen beung consumed prematurely due to falling below the HP threshold.

RR ticks at a higher rate but it´s proccrate does not align with the cooldown of precise regeneration. So in reality it barely helps if it isn´t outright harmful.
RR ticks every 1.5s and can procc every 3rd tick.
Mutagen ticks every 2s and cann procc every 2nd tick.

The duration disparity is precisely what my comparison is ALL about. It´s about how much magica is potentially gained over the cost of the spell in the first place.
This is what makes mutagen better for proccing it from a sustain perpective which is my entire point.

Mutagen proccing is always a win from my perspective - so ofc i don´t consider that - i mean if you´re dead bc of RR it doesn´t procc either does it (not that it happens often bc of the procc delay).