Dk's overdue

  • Ozazz
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    Mitaka211 wrote: »
    I dislike the tank meta as well but nerfing everything to oblivion is not the answer. Dks are really one of the most balanced classes atm . The only class that performs a lot better than everything else is magsorc. It blows my mind how the devs fail to bring them on par with other classes for so long.

    What i am worried they will do is they will nerf heavy armor to being useless and buff medium armor so we will be in this crazy wheel repeating ourselves. Oh nerf HA buff MA, then nerf MA buff HA.

    The reason HA is meta right now is because of the stupidly op burst some classes can achieve. If you run MA in bgs , staying alive becomes next to impossible against good players and you are pretty much locked to dedicating one of your sets to resists.

    Magsorcs for example are really out of hand this patch , they can melt people in seconds, dk or not. All of their counters were nerfed to the ground . If anything i am annoyed at zos for :
    1) Releasing new classes before bringing the old ones in line
    2) Releasing Necromancer , a class full of bugs, without fixing it
    3) Ignoring feedback on old classes , and yet catering to NBs and MagSorcs (It seems these are the only 2 classes that manage to get a response from the devs)
    4) Which brings me to my next point. Listening to crying people who are bad at the game and have no understanding of more than 1 class. Oblivion damage was nerfed to being useless just because of Sorcs and no one can say otherwise. Dizzy swing was nerfed to being meh just because of crying people.
    5) Stamplars and Stamsorcs fell behind so bad, i don't even bother playing mine atm.
    6) Magsorcs got an actual buff this patch (spare the shield nerf crying, it was a fix, and it does not affect any of the decent pvp players to begin with). The class that needed it the less got a buff really...


    Dk is the last class you should be crying about my man , just saying.

    you're clueless and obviously unfamiliar with the mag sorc as a whole
  • Ozazz
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    heavy armor needs to be rendered completely useless as snb, only for pve. At that point youd actually have to learn how to play the game correctly in pvp :)
  • Olupajmibanan
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    I don't have any problems with stamDKs in BGs because it is generaly a CP dependant class. StamDKs definitely feel the loss of CP in non-CP PvP more than other classes. No matter if I enter with my magDK or stamwarden, stamDK is of no bother to me.
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    every class feels the loss of cp in bgs m8
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    Ozazz wrote: »
    every class feels the loss of cp in bgs m8

    I agree. But as I said, some feel it more. StamDK and magplar are the best examples. They do well in CP environment, but not so much in non-CP.
  • Mitaka211
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    Ozazz wrote: »
    heavy armor needs to be rendered completely useless as snb, only for pve. At that point youd actually have to learn how to play the game correctly in pvp :)


    Explain to me how rendering HA useless will make the game better? I don't know if you have noticed but the damage some people can achieve is way to much to survive in anything else but HA. Yea like rolling as a stamina will stop a pet sorc from deleting you. It will take longer but 4 rolls later you will be dead.

    Going full resists is the way to go in pvp right now.

    If they nerf HA then they will have to nerf the damage output of pretty much every class in the game so we don't end up killing each other in 2 sec.

    You are saying that an extremely short fight is better for learning the game than a prolonged one?

    I am the one not understanding the game , you are so right :)
  • Cathexis
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    Look at all these salty DKs "Newwww Don't merf moy dragon blerp. Yous a noobers."

    Says the class with an ultimate that reduces incoming damage to 3%.

    Lol. Just lol.

    10/10 this thread delivers.
    Edited by Cathexis on June 11, 2019 11:13AM
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  • Davadin
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    I would gladly take a nerf to heavy armor stamDK, If they gave me back the old medium armor Dk where I could wrecking blow+leap to two shot kill those light armor squishies.

    last night i tried Dual-wielding medium armor build in Kaal campaign and I'm 2-shotting with Leap + Whirling tornado...
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  • Sarjako
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    Noooo! I play 'x' and you play 'y' you suck! You're a bad newb! You shouldn't nerf 'x', nerf 'y' just L2P newbs! How about you guys actually talk about the issues at hand rather than attack each other. You children need to chill TF out.
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  • Sleep724
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    Cathexis wrote: »
    Look at all these salty DKs "Newwww Don't merf moy dragon blerp. Yous a noobers."

    Says the class with an ultimate that reduces incoming damage to 3%.

    Lol. Just lol.

    10/10 this thread delivers.

    Show us where the DK penetrated your shields.
  • Ozazz
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    d leap over delivers as fossilize
    nerf snb
    nerf heavy armor

    pvp would be a thousand times better! my points
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    Ozazz wrote: »
    Nerf Dk's please they're are ruining pvp with snb and heavy, also they re the only class that can face tank 1vx atm which speaks volumes in itself!

    1) I would suggest reworking passives/abilities in snb 1st and nerfing heavy armor as a whole before any direct nerfs because this is cancer to pvp but zos seems to not care!

    2) they benefit from heavy the most and build unkillable toons in pvp that serve no purpose to pvp or they build for damage and can have near 10k health more then strict dps classes and still overshadow/out perform their roles 1v1, this speaks volumes in its self!

    3) They have two unDodgeables too many, that I can think of off the top of my head, this pretty much guarantees a kill in any outnumbered situation near 75% to 100% of the time, This would be Dragon Leap, currently the best ult in game, and fossilize. your only option is to block but if you stand still while getting zerged we all know what happens and in lag you're near screwed every time as fossilize. Fossilize is literally the same thing as old rune cage just a smaller radius but no one ever wants to acknowledge this!

    4) zos seems to screw strict damage classes in pvp out of there diversity sorcs and nbs.
    Sorc the list of nerfs is unfathomable, literally every ability, EVERY on sorc has been nerfed at one point in time in this game, then you give us pets to try make us happy, its literally a disgrace to the class and long time vets and to pvp as a whole!
    Medium armor nb just got absolutely shafted this patch, major fracture, incap defile, the list goes on, last patch you screwed shuffle

    dk's have absolutely no perspective when it comes to they're privilege in this game, they're the only class that utilize tank meta while over performing 1v1 and in outnumbered situations atm. you Buff wings making them better than shuffle several patches ago= MAJOR BUFF, Buff dragon leap as if it needs any buffing? =HUGE BUFF
    zos literally wants everyone getting chained from zergs and dragon leaped while unable to counter it!

    Remove major mending and they'd basically become more manageable. Wings mitigation could come down a spec too. 80% mitigation from an already inherently tanky class is just disgusting.
    Edited by usmguy1234 on June 11, 2019 11:05PM
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  • Davadin
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    usmguy1234 wrote: »
    Ozazz wrote: »
    Nerf Dk's please they're are ruining pvp with snb and heavy, also they re the only class that can face tank 1vx atm which speaks volumes in itself!

    1) I would suggest reworking passives/abilities in snb 1st and nerfing heavy armor as a whole before any direct nerfs because this is cancer to pvp but zos seems to not care!

    2) they benefit from heavy the most and build unkillable toons in pvp that serve no purpose to pvp or they build for damage and can have near 10k health more then strict dps classes and still overshadow/out perform their roles 1v1, this speaks volumes in its self!

    3) They have two unDodgeables too many, that I can think of off the top of my head, this pretty much guarantees a kill in any outnumbered situation near 75% to 100% of the time, This would be Dragon Leap, currently the best ult in game, and fossilize. your only option is to block but if you stand still while getting zerged we all know what happens and in lag you're near screwed every time as fossilize. Fossilize is literally the same thing as old rune cage just a smaller radius but no one ever wants to acknowledge this!

    4) zos seems to screw strict damage classes in pvp out of there diversity sorcs and nbs.
    Sorc the list of nerfs is unfathomable, literally every ability, EVERY on sorc has been nerfed at one point in time in this game, then you give us pets to try make us happy, its literally a disgrace to the class and long time vets and to pvp as a whole!
    Medium armor nb just got absolutely shafted this patch, major fracture, incap defile, the list goes on, last patch you screwed shuffle

    dk's have absolutely no perspective when it comes to they're privilege in this game, they're the only class that utilize tank meta while over performing 1v1 and in outnumbered situations atm. you Buff wings making them better than shuffle several patches ago= MAJOR BUFF, Buff dragon leap as if it needs any buffing? =HUGE BUFF
    zos literally wants everyone getting chained from zergs and dragon leaped while unable to counter it!

    Remove major mending and they'd basically become more manageable. Wings mitigation could come down a spec too. 80% mitigation from an already inherently tanky class is just disgusting.

    only when u cast wing, block, and only from projectiles damage.

    relax.
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  • NBrookus
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    Davadin wrote: »
    But i never understand the bunny hopping tho... is it something to do with weaving or avoiding AoE or whatever? Why u jump?

    It's weave and frag and shield timing, plus getting over LoS blocks like logs and rocks a little.

    Hopping doesn't reduce AOE damage. Heck, being on another floor doesn't reduce most AOEs.
  • Onefrkncrzypope
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    usmguy1234 wrote: »
    Ozazz wrote: »
    Nerf Dk's please they're are ruining pvp with snb and heavy, also they re the only class that can face tank 1vx atm which speaks volumes in itself!

    1) I would suggest reworking passives/abilities in snb 1st and nerfing heavy armor as a whole before any direct nerfs because this is cancer to pvp but zos seems to not care!

    2) they benefit from heavy the most and build unkillable toons in pvp that serve no purpose to pvp or they build for damage and can have near 10k health more then strict dps classes and still overshadow/out perform their roles 1v1, this speaks volumes in its self!

    3) They have two unDodgeables too many, that I can think of off the top of my head, this pretty much guarantees a kill in any outnumbered situation near 75% to 100% of the time, This would be Dragon Leap, currently the best ult in game, and fossilize. your only option is to block but if you stand still while getting zerged we all know what happens and in lag you're near screwed every time as fossilize. Fossilize is literally the same thing as old rune cage just a smaller radius but no one ever wants to acknowledge this!

    4) zos seems to screw strict damage classes in pvp out of there diversity sorcs and nbs.
    Sorc the list of nerfs is unfathomable, literally every ability, EVERY on sorc has been nerfed at one point in time in this game, then you give us pets to try make us happy, its literally a disgrace to the class and long time vets and to pvp as a whole!
    Medium armor nb just got absolutely shafted this patch, major fracture, incap defile, the list goes on, last patch you screwed shuffle

    dk's have absolutely no perspective when it comes to they're privilege in this game, they're the only class that utilize tank meta while over performing 1v1 and in outnumbered situations atm. you Buff wings making them better than shuffle several patches ago= MAJOR BUFF, Buff dragon leap as if it needs any buffing? =HUGE BUFF
    zos literally wants everyone getting chained from zergs and dragon leaped while unable to counter it!

    Remove major mending and they'd basically become more manageable. Wings mitigation could come down a spec too. 80% mitigation from an already inherently tanky class is just disgusting.

    Remove major mending and DK would become an Ap farm. They have no means of disengagement so ye mending needs to stay. Wings was a hug nerf. Let's do a small example: before patch poison inject or reach would reflect. After patch the initial damage of the skill is mitigated but the dot isn't the status effects isn't. Wings are horrible now. Remember it's only projectiles and a percentage debuff leading to smaller returns.
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  • Xvorg
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    Ozazz wrote: »
    Accepting your privilege 1st?

    You know DK cannot play anything without Heavy armor, right? That's is a nerf per se. So instead to asking for a nerf on a class that it is already bad, you shpuld ask for a buff to the same class that allows them to play Medium or Light. That includes:

    Better resource recovery passives
    Better dmg passives
    Better ranged skills (right now it is only one)
    A much better synergy than poison crap

    Otherwhise it will be S/B HA forever.

    Of Course, the other option is just delete the class, because at this point it feel like Homer's BBQ

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  • satanio
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    usmguy1234 wrote: »
    Ozazz wrote: »
    Nerf Dk's please they're are ruining pvp with snb and heavy, also they re the only class that can face tank 1vx atm which speaks volumes in itself!

    1) I would suggest reworking passives/abilities in snb 1st and nerfing heavy armor as a whole before any direct nerfs because this is cancer to pvp but zos seems to not care!

    2) they benefit from heavy the most and build unkillable toons in pvp that serve no purpose to pvp or they build for damage and can have near 10k health more then strict dps classes and still overshadow/out perform their roles 1v1, this speaks volumes in its self!

    3) They have two unDodgeables too many, that I can think of off the top of my head, this pretty much guarantees a kill in any outnumbered situation near 75% to 100% of the time, This would be Dragon Leap, currently the best ult in game, and fossilize. your only option is to block but if you stand still while getting zerged we all know what happens and in lag you're near screwed every time as fossilize. Fossilize is literally the same thing as old rune cage just a smaller radius but no one ever wants to acknowledge this!

    4) zos seems to screw strict damage classes in pvp out of there diversity sorcs and nbs.
    Sorc the list of nerfs is unfathomable, literally every ability, EVERY on sorc has been nerfed at one point in time in this game, then you give us pets to try make us happy, its literally a disgrace to the class and long time vets and to pvp as a whole!
    Medium armor nb just got absolutely shafted this patch, major fracture, incap defile, the list goes on, last patch you screwed shuffle

    dk's have absolutely no perspective when it comes to they're privilege in this game, they're the only class that utilize tank meta while over performing 1v1 and in outnumbered situations atm. you Buff wings making them better than shuffle several patches ago= MAJOR BUFF, Buff dragon leap as if it needs any buffing? =HUGE BUFF
    zos literally wants everyone getting chained from zergs and dragon leaped while unable to counter it!

    Remove major mending and they'd basically become more manageable. Wings mitigation could come down a spec too. 80% mitigation from an already inherently tanky class is just disgusting.

    Remove major mending and DK would become an Ap farm. They have no means of disengagement so ye mending needs to stay. Wings was a hug nerf. Let's do a small example: before patch poison inject or reach would reflect. After patch the initial damage of the skill is mitigated but the dot isn't the status effects isn't. Wings are horrible now. Remember it's only projectiles and a percentage debuff leading to smaller returns.

    And the one that was supposed to get hit with wings nerf was magDK in PvP, but somehow, the only DK spec that got hit with that nerf is stamDK, which wasnt OP at all in the first place.

    On other hand, I can use wings while tanking Zmaja, to reduce that heavy attack. So, less work for healers I guess.
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  • Onefrkncrzypope
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    satanio wrote: »
    usmguy1234 wrote: »
    Ozazz wrote: »
    Nerf Dk's please they're are ruining pvp with snb and heavy, also they re the only class that can face tank 1vx atm which speaks volumes in itself!

    1) I would suggest reworking passives/abilities in snb 1st and nerfing heavy armor as a whole before any direct nerfs because this is cancer to pvp but zos seems to not care!

    2) they benefit from heavy the most and build unkillable toons in pvp that serve no purpose to pvp or they build for damage and can have near 10k health more then strict dps classes and still overshadow/out perform their roles 1v1, this speaks volumes in its self!

    3) They have two unDodgeables too many, that I can think of off the top of my head, this pretty much guarantees a kill in any outnumbered situation near 75% to 100% of the time, This would be Dragon Leap, currently the best ult in game, and fossilize. your only option is to block but if you stand still while getting zerged we all know what happens and in lag you're near screwed every time as fossilize. Fossilize is literally the same thing as old rune cage just a smaller radius but no one ever wants to acknowledge this!

    4) zos seems to screw strict damage classes in pvp out of there diversity sorcs and nbs.
    Sorc the list of nerfs is unfathomable, literally every ability, EVERY on sorc has been nerfed at one point in time in this game, then you give us pets to try make us happy, its literally a disgrace to the class and long time vets and to pvp as a whole!
    Medium armor nb just got absolutely shafted this patch, major fracture, incap defile, the list goes on, last patch you screwed shuffle

    dk's have absolutely no perspective when it comes to they're privilege in this game, they're the only class that utilize tank meta while over performing 1v1 and in outnumbered situations atm. you Buff wings making them better than shuffle several patches ago= MAJOR BUFF, Buff dragon leap as if it needs any buffing? =HUGE BUFF
    zos literally wants everyone getting chained from zergs and dragon leaped while unable to counter it!

    Remove major mending and they'd basically become more manageable. Wings mitigation could come down a spec too. 80% mitigation from an already inherently tanky class is just disgusting.

    Remove major mending and DK would become an Ap farm. They have no means of disengagement so ye mending needs to stay. Wings was a hug nerf. Let's do a small example: before patch poison inject or reach would reflect. After patch the initial damage of the skill is mitigated but the dot isn't the status effects isn't. Wings are horrible now. Remember it's only projectiles and a percentage debuff leading to smaller returns.

    And the one that was supposed to get hit with wings nerf was magDK in PvP, but somehow, the only DK spec that got hit with that nerf is stamDK, which wasnt OP at all in the first place.

    On other hand, I can use wings while tanking Zmaja, to reduce that heavy attack. So, less work for healers I guess.

    IKR, whats is funny is that people keep yelling nerf HA but protective jewels and maybe two peices of heavy you can get a LA mag character to resistance cap. Slap on a sheild and basically sitting close to 30k health(after adding virtual health in sheild) capped resistances, 4k pen, ranged build(if not the melee mag), high burst heals etc..... but yeah the slow AF turtle class sDK is the class that needs the nerfs. There isn't really anything to nerf on a DK guys. Passives are garbage, damage is garbage, sustain is garbage. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    The true culprit is how easy it is to get over cap resistances on every armor spec. If a sDK is the current meta its a clue that either weapons skill or passives or sets are overpowered. The class is literally only good because of that. Every class specked similarly to the sDK will preform equally or better depending on the player.

    On a pve note, the health recovery and healing received is also a very nice buff for tanking. Health recov builds in a VCR prog is a thing of beauty. Baneful is a joke at 10k health recov.
    Edited by Onefrkncrzypope on June 12, 2019 7:22PM
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  • Cathexis
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    Sleep724 wrote: »
    Cathexis wrote: »
    Look at all these salty DKs "Newwww Don't merf moy dragon blerp. Yous a noobers."

    Says the class with an ultimate that reduces incoming damage to 3%.

    Lol. Just lol.

    10/10 this thread delivers.

    Show us where the DK penetrated your shields.

    IT DONT
    Cos my sorc a boss, punk.

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    Edited by Cathexis on June 19, 2019 4:05AM
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  • RaveRaveRaveRave
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    Pet sorcs are the absolute worst. Hide behind all their pets, even wear Maw of the Infernal so they can have another thing in a huge Daedroth running around too then execute anyone who is low on health with their Mages Wrath/Fury nonsense. Waaaaay worse than any DK. Any bum can be a sorc and think they're good. There's more sorcs than anything in BG.
  • JumpmanLane
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    Ozazz wrote: »
    d leap over delivers as fossilize
    nerf snb
    nerf heavy armor

    pvp would be a thousand times better! my points

    Or you could just get a wee bit better at pvp and stuff...
  • Fawn4287
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    It seems pvp manages to get laggier and more buggy every update, the tank survival and dot meta is the eventual outcome of a poor targeting system making direct damage single target a poor choice and line of sight being the best way for non roll dodge stam characters to avoid damage, coupled with fury and sevenths, it makes a dk build thats unkillable 1v1 but still has a burst combo capable of killing other players with ease and battle roar gives great proc regen in heavy
  • Onefrkncrzypope
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    Fawn4287 wrote: »
    It seems pvp manages to get laggier and more buggy every update, the tank survival and dot meta is the eventual outcome of a poor targeting system making direct damage single target a poor choice and line of sight being the best way for non roll dodge stam characters to avoid damage, coupled with fury and sevenths, it makes a dk build thats unkillable 1v1 but still has a burst combo capable of killing other players with ease and battle roar gives great proc regen in heavy

    That combo is? Is it really exclusive to the dk?
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  • jdmoonan
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    bardx86 wrote: »
    Mitaka211 wrote: »
    I dislike the tank meta as well but nerfing everything to oblivion is not the answer. Dks are really one of the most balanced classes atm . The only class that performs a lot better than everything else is magsorc. It blows my mind how the devs fail to bring them on par with other classes for so long.

    What i am worried they will do is they will nerf heavy armor to being useless and buff medium armor so we will be in this crazy wheel repeating ourselves. Oh nerf HA buff MA, then nerf MA buff HA.

    The reason HA is meta right now is because of the stupidly op burst some classes can achieve. If you run MA in bgs , staying alive becomes next to impossible against good players and you are pretty much locked to dedicating one of your sets to resists.

    Magsorcs for example are really out of hand this patch , they can melt people in seconds, dk or not. All of their counters were nerfed to the ground . If anything i am annoyed at zos for :
    1) Releasing new classes before bringing the old ones in line
    2) Releasing Necromancer , a class full of bugs, without fixing it
    3) Ignoring feedback on old classes , and yet catering to NBs and MagSorcs (It seems these are the only 2 classes that manage to get a response from the devs)
    4) Which brings me to my next point. Listening to crying people who are bad at the game and have no understanding of more than 1 class. Oblivion damage was nerfed to being useless just because of Sorcs and no one can say otherwise. Dizzy swing was nerfed to being meh just because of crying people.
    5) Stamplars and Stamsorcs fell behind so bad, i don't even bother playing mine atm.
    6) Magsorcs got an actual buff this patch (spare the shield nerf crying, it was a fix, and it does not affect any of the decent pvp players to begin with). The class that needed it the less got a buff really...


    Dk is the last class you should be crying about my man , just saying.

    How did sorcs get buffed again? Non-pet sorcs are in a bad spot atm. A DK will wipe the floor with them in the current meta. Pet sorcs on the other hand are stupid.

    You're HIGH!
  • Ozazz
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    @jdmoonan nice insult m8, fyi i 1v2ed you the other day on a nb vs your only character which is dk that you've been rolling for years!
  • Ozazz
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    Pet sorcs are the absolute worst. Hide behind all their pets, even wear Maw of the Infernal so they can have another thing in a huge Daedroth running around too then execute anyone who is low on health with their Mages Wrath/Fury nonsense. Waaaaay worse than any DK. Any bum can be a sorc and think they're good. There's more sorcs than anything in BG.

    you have absolute no understanding of the classes history, and the consistent nerfs its been through to end up where it is now, as a result of all the cry baby's that dictated the classes existence!
  • Ozazz
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    amir412 wrote: »
    Ozazz wrote: »
    Nerf Dk's please they're are ruining pvp with snb and heavy, also they re the only class that can face tank 1vx atm which speaks volumes in itself!

    4) zos seems to screw strict damage classes in pvp out of there diversity sorcs and nbs.
    Sorc the list of nerfs is unfathomable, literally every ability, EVERY on sorc has been nerfed at one point in time in this game, then you give us pets to try make us happy, its literally a disgrace to the class and long time vets and to pvp as a whole!
    Medium armor nb just got absolutely shafted this patch, major fracture, incap defile, the list goes on, last patch you screwed shuffle

    Nbs and Pet sorcs are more tanky than stamDKs at the current state + has better mobility.
    What are u talking about bruh?

    your clearly trolling!
  • MashmalloMan
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    OP has built up a history of nothing but posts filled with complaints in absolute favour of Sorcerers. I'd take anything they say with a huge grain of salt given their clear bias and unrelenting negativity.

    It's funny you don't reply to any of the well thought out and constructive comments in defense of DK or HA and instead decide to comment to things like "You're high".
    @MashmalloMan - PC NA

    PC Beta - 2400+ CP
  • SupremeRissole
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    Complains about the number of 'nerfs' on the most OP spec in the game

    magsorcs

    lol
  • Ash_In_My_Sujamma
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    Ozazz wrote: »
    1) I would suggest reworking passives/abilities in snb 1st and nerfing heavy armor as a whole before any direct nerfs because this is cancer to pvp but zos seems to not care!

    Come, sit by the fire, have a marshmello and let grandpa Sujamma tell you about the legend of Wrobel and the TRUE heavy armor meta! You see, back in my days...
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