Dk's overdue

Ozazz
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Nerf Dk's please they're are ruining pvp with snb and heavy, also they re the only class that can face tank 1vx atm which speaks volumes in itself!

1) I would suggest reworking passives/abilities in snb 1st and nerfing heavy armor as a whole before any direct nerfs because this is cancer to pvp but zos seems to not care!

2) they benefit from heavy the most and build unkillable toons in pvp that serve no purpose to pvp or they build for damage and can have near 10k health more then strict dps classes and still overshadow/out perform their roles 1v1, this speaks volumes in its self!

3) They have two unDodgeables too many, that I can think of off the top of my head, this pretty much guarantees a kill in any outnumbered situation near 75% to 100% of the time, This would be Dragon Leap, currently the best ult in game, and fossilize. your only option is to block but if you stand still while getting zerged we all know what happens and in lag you're near screwed every time as fossilize. Fossilize is literally the same thing as old rune cage just a smaller radius but no one ever wants to acknowledge this!

4) zos seems to screw strict damage classes in pvp out of there diversity sorcs and nbs.
Sorc the list of nerfs is unfathomable, literally every ability, EVERY on sorc has been nerfed at one point in time in this game, then you give us pets to try make us happy, its literally a disgrace to the class and long time vets and to pvp as a whole!
Medium armor nb just got absolutely shafted this patch, major fracture, incap defile, the list goes on, last patch you screwed shuffle

dk's have absolutely no perspective when it comes to they're privilege in this game, they're the only class that utilize tank meta while over performing 1v1 and in outnumbered situations atm. you Buff wings making them better than shuffle several patches ago= MAJOR BUFF, Buff dragon leap as if it needs any buffing? =HUGE BUFF
zos literally wants everyone getting chained from zergs and dragon leaped while unable to counter it!
  • Zacuel
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    What's a constructive way of saying "I want to strangle your face right now."?
  • Ozazz
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    Accepting your privilege 1st?
  • SilverPaws
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    Good troll 8/10.
  • Ozazz
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    Anybody/someone that has rolled nb and sorc, light/medium armor builds since launch can tell you that heavy & snb meta is ruining pvp as a whole!
  • BNOC
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    Minno wrote: »
    Looks like the devs had a little QnA on reddit. Some insight into future changes or performance issues (responses from either Matt, Rich or Brian).

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    Brian:
    - "We have recently added some changes to Race against Time to get a bit more Magicka mobility out there, but we are aware of the differences between Stam vs. Mag out there in PVP. We also know about the "heavy armor meta" and are looking into solutions to offer more competitive Medium and Light armor players in PVP."

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  • amir412
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    Ozazz wrote: »
    Nerf Dk's please they're are ruining pvp with snb and heavy, also they re the only class that can face tank 1vx atm which speaks volumes in itself!

    4) zos seems to screw strict damage classes in pvp out of there diversity sorcs and nbs.
    Sorc the list of nerfs is unfathomable, literally every ability, EVERY on sorc has been nerfed at one point in time in this game, then you give us pets to try make us happy, its literally a disgrace to the class and long time vets and to pvp as a whole!
    Medium armor nb just got absolutely shafted this patch, major fracture, incap defile, the list goes on, last patch you screwed shuffle

    Nbs and Pet sorcs are more tanky than stamDKs at the current state + has better mobility.
    What are u talking about bruh?
  • John_Falstaff
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    Oh, look, another PvP nerf post. And starting with request to nerf heavy armor. And made by a sorc no less. Where's my popcorn?! ^^
  • Checkmath
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    What happened to the other brawler specs? Stamden or heavy stamnb? They are not unkillable? Or stamnecro....

    I think your post adresses the wrong mechanics/spots of the game.
  • zvavi
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    As a sorc main, i oppose any nerfs. Especially ones that will f*** me up more in pve tanking. On any of my tanks. including the dk i dont play much anymore.

    #plz stop nerfing tanks in pve cause of pvp
    Edited by zvavi on June 5, 2019 11:36AM
  • John_Falstaff
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    zvavi wrote: »
    As a sorc main, i oppose any nerfs. Especially ones that will f*** me up more in pve tanking. On any of my tanks. including the dk i dont play much anymore.

    #plz stop nerfing tanks in pve cause of pvp

    This. I'm bloody tired of having my Crusher nerfed (because enchantments are too strong in PvP, sure), having my wings nerfed in vBRP (because strong in PvP), having my talons nerfed, especially in vFL (because of... well you got the drift).

    ZOS, I've an idea for you - why not ban all armor, all weapons and all skills in PvP? Let PvP folks have it out in manly way, in a good ol' fistfight... Perfect balance.
  • DKsUnite
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    lol
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  • Rydik
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    "Dk outperforming, nerf" post from sorc... Thx, this was fun)
    Clearly L2P.
  • ChunkyCat
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    It’s not a day on the forums without some random n00b asking for nerfs.
  • zvavi
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    zvavi wrote: »
    As a sorc main, i oppose any nerfs. Especially ones that will f*** me up more in pve tanking. On any of my tanks. including the dk i dont play much anymore.

    #plz stop nerfing tanks in pve cause of pvp

    This. I'm bloody tired of having my Crusher nerfed (because enchantments are too strong in PvP, sure), having my wings nerfed in vBRP (because strong in PvP), having my talons nerfed, especially in vFL (because of... well you got the drift).

    ZOS, I've an idea for you - why not ban all armor, all weapons and all skills in PvP? Let PvP folks have it out in manly way, in a good ol' fistfight... Perfect balance.

    U forgot timestop and enchantment procs from single target dots. 100% Crusher with weakening on main boss without adds getting in the way from dual wield? Just a dream. Just a dream.
    Edited by zvavi on June 5, 2019 1:02PM
  • InvictusApollo
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    I don't get it why people want to nerf heavy armor. Almost every single one of my builds that I tried doing using heavy armor, turned out to be subpar to it's medium armor counterpart. We can easily get to the resistances cap without more than two heavy armor pieces on body and medium armor passives are much, much, much better.
  • Dashmatt
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    The only thing ruining PvP is the players.

    And lag.
  • AverageJo3Gam3r
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    Someone hasn’t been around a while. mDKs were in the scrap heap for about three years after they were nerfed to oblivion after the infinite bat days.
  • Zer0_CooL
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    Zacuel wrote: »
    What's a constructive way of saying "I want to strangle your face right now."?

    "L2P" i guess.
  • Hollerboller
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    Mimimimimimi DK killed me NERF Mimimimimimimi
  • Cortimi
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    LOL Found the kid I bashed last night in BG's. I rolled into a BG with my pre-patch stamDK, thinking "how bad can the Wing nerf be?". I have NEVER seen so much Clench spam in my life. I was literally the ONLY melee user in the entire BG. Nothing but Swallow Soul, Frags, and Clench. And these kids finally got their way, there was absolutely nothing I could do about it.

    They just hopped around, light attack spamming to proc Spell Strat and spam Clench. I was absolutely nothing more except a sitting duck, a moving crash test dummy that they could just shield stack around and have their way with.

    So they thought.

    See, the thing is, I knew this was coming. I was warned about this MONTHS ago. I have been planning. I have been testing.

    I've been waiting.

    So I rezzed up. Took Wings off my bar, slotted Defensive Stance, and ran back in to the center of the map to hold me ground.

    Sure enough, here comes the bunny hopping, Aderol infused idiot bouncing back my way to get his easy kill.

    I could actually FEEL the "Surprised Pikachu" coming through my screen as every Clench and Frag was reflected right back into his face. He kept spamming, I kept Stancing. Needless to say, I won fairly quickly.

    Told my wife about it (who plays a magden), and I even called it, "watch, I bet you real money, that kid just went STRAIGHT to the forums crying about it and Sword and Shield will be the next thing nerfed next patch".

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    April 1st is already passed you know.
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  • MentalxHammer
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    Heavy armor is an OLD meta.
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  • Casul
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    So what your saying... Is nerf magsorc?
    PvP needs more love.
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Fake news.


    I’m right on time.
  • THEDKEXPERIENCE
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    Heavy armor is an OLD meta.

    Seriously ... maybe this is yet another PC vs Console thing but it’s not even remotely the meta on XBox. You’ll find an “unkillable” tank every few minutes but ... pro tip ... if you guys all stopped NERFING YOURSELVES with armor sets that don’t do damage because you’re afraid to die they are quite killable.

    The number of times that I saunter up to a group of 15 people playing ring around the tree with a tank that ends with me just firing off an ACTUAL ABILITY THAT DOES DAMAGE and kills the “unkillable” tank is in the hundreds.

    The only meta on XBox is the sorc meta. And it’s all good, have at it sorcs. No worries. Not hating.
  • ccmedaddy
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    Imagine being a magsorc main and posting this drivel lmao
  • Davadin
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    Cortimi wrote: »
    LOL Found the kid I bashed last night in BG's. I rolled into a BG with my pre-patch stamDK, thinking "how bad can the Wing nerf be?". I have NEVER seen so much Clench spam in my life. I was literally the ONLY melee user in the entire BG. Nothing but Swallow Soul, Frags, and Clench. And these kids finally got their way, there was absolutely nothing I could do about it.

    They just hopped around, light attack spamming to proc Spell Strat and spam Clench. I was absolutely nothing more except a sitting duck, a moving crash test dummy that they could just shield stack around and have their way with.

    So they thought.

    See, the thing is, I knew this was coming. I was warned about this MONTHS ago. I have been planning. I have been testing.

    I've been waiting.

    So I rezzed up. Took Wings off my bar, slotted Defensive Stance, and ran back in to the center of the map to hold me ground.

    Sure enough, here comes the bunny hopping, Aderol infused idiot bouncing back my way to get his easy kill.

    I could actually FEEL the "Surprised Pikachu" coming through my screen as every Clench and Frag was reflected right back into his face. He kept spamming, I kept Stancing. Needless to say, I won fairly quickly.

    Told my wife about it (who plays a magden), and I even called it, "watch, I bet you real money, that kid just went STRAIGHT to the forums crying about it and Sword and Shield will be the next thing nerfed next patch".

    awesome.

    reminded me that i've been rocking Defensive Stance for months on my heavy/SnB build, and never use wings coz its simply too costly for stamDK for merely 4 projectiles (that's... every 0.5 sec in Cyrodiil CP) so I ended up medium build for Elswyr and honestly, it feels great. Hit way harder and more of a threat for shield-stacking sorc.


    But i never understand the bunny hopping tho... is it something to do with weaving or avoiding AoE or whatever? Why u jump?
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  • Davadin
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    Ozazz wrote: »

    3) They have two unDodgeables too many, that I can think of off the top of my head, this pretty much guarantees a kill in any outnumbered situation near 75% to 100% of the time, This would be Dragon Leap, currently the best ult in game, and fossilize.

    Actually 3. Check out Empowered Chain. It's tasty.
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  • TrinityBreaker
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    ChunkyCat wrote: »
    It’s not a day on the forums without some random n00b asking for nerfs.

    Nothing but facts here, sir. +1 for you
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