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Nahviintaas HM unannounced changes ??
profundidob16_ESO
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So...about last night...we went into Nahviintaas HM again as usual. With no patch notes at all on Sunspire we were very surprised to experience the unannounced but obvious changes first hand 
I'm curious to hear from whoever else experience the same: What was your experience and how did you adapt ?
I'm curious to hear from whoever else experience the same: What was your experience and how did you adapt ?
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code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭That sounds... cryptic. What was the change?Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
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profundidob16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭That sounds... cryptic. What was the change?
Hey mate. Sorry for the crypticism but I didn't want to trigger reactions from people who have not experienced it themselves
As maintank (I mean the tank that actively holds the dragon) I noticed that we suddenly take ALOT more dmge during 'marked for death', like a 2-shot lethal dot dmge during breath despite being burst healed and fully beefed up and guarded. Before we used to simply get guarded as maintank and survive it just fine. Now it's like a guaranteed 2 shot. So it looks like they want to enforce tank swapping after all.
In reaction to this decided to start tank swapping which seems to work fine. I noticed then that after taking the first maintank shift and stepping out after getting marked even the dot itself on me alone is so big that I can hardly outheal it myself (without the healer actively healing me because he is now on the other maintank). This is the pure dot dmge without any of all the actual boss dmge on me such as the bites and breath etc. The dot together with the usual boss dmge -especially breath is 2shot - seems now like completely unsurvivable under normal conditions. That is not using magma shell or anything.
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code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I haven't tried no-swap on HM yet, so I can't speak from experience, but I haven't heard anyone else mention it. Could you have forgotten to lower your vamp stage?
How much of a damage increase are we talking about here? What are the damage numbers you see this week in esologs vs. last week?Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
Extended Journal Add-Ons: Item Set Browser ― Loot Log ― Character Knowledge ― Event Collectibles ― RaidificatorOther Add-Ons: Combat Alerts ― Deconstruction Junk Marker ― Purge Tracker ― vHoF Status Panel ― Asylum Status Panel ― Smart Looter ― Improved Companion Rapport Information0 -
profundidob16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭I haven't tried no-swap on HM yet, so I can't speak from experience, but I haven't heard anyone else mention it. Could you have forgotten to lower your vamp stage?
How much of a damage increase are we talking about here? What are the damage numbers you see this week in esologs vs. last week?
I haven't started digging into the numbers yet tbh because the dmge during breath felt like...double. I Wanted to check the obvious here first but apparently it's not that obvious.0 -
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✭✭Are you on PC or console? We just hit the HM last night and none of the tanks said anything, but I'm on Xbox and always living a bit in the past.PC/Xbox NA Mindmender|Swashbuckler Supreme|Planes Breaker|Dawnbringer|Godslayer|Immortal Redeemer|Gryphon Heart|Tick-tock Tormentor|Dro-m'Athra Destroyer|Stormproof|Grand Overlord|Grand Mastercrafter|Master Grappler|Tamriel Hero0 -
BooPerScOOper✭✭✭I got a little over 9K per tick dmg with just "Marked" alone. What were you getting?Edited by BooPerScOOper on June 20, 2019 8:41PM0 -
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭BooPerScOOper wrote: »I got a little over 9K per tick dmg with just "Marked" alone. What were you getting?
Nahviintaas HM from last week, the damage through the entire 15s duration of one application of the effect on me.
We don't do solo MT; we swap taunt. The final two ticks--after my Minor Maim on the boss had expired--hit me for a bit over 9K. Haven't been in there this week yet.Edited by code65536 on June 20, 2019 11:18PMNightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
Dungeons and Trials:Personal best scores:- Dragonstar Arena: 46817 (NA)
- Maelstrom Arena: 600526 (NA)
- Blackrose Prison: 99274 (EU) (Unchained)
- Maw of Lorkhaj: 165227 (EU)
- Halls of Fabrication: 220708 (NA) (Tick-Tock Tormentor #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10, #11, #12)
- Asylum Sanctorium: 114957 (NA) (Immortal Redeemer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8, #9, #10)
- Cloudrest: 131256 (NA) (Gryphon Heart #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7)
- Sunspire: 250866 (EU) (Godslayer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6)
- Kyne's Aegis: 235841 (EU) (Dawnbringer #1, #2, #3, #4, #5, #6, #7, #8)
Dungeon trifectas:- Mountain God and Leave No Bone Unbroken
- Apex Predator and Pure Lunacy
- Depths Defier and Relentless Raider
- Defanged the Devourer and Nature's Wrath
- In Defiance of Death and No Rest for the Wicked
- Bane of Thorns and True Genius
- Ardent Bibliophile and Subterranean Smasher
- Battlespire's Best and Bastion Breaker
- Zero Regrets and Land, Air, and Sea Supremacy
- Fist of Tava and Invader's Bane
- Curator's Champion (Valinna) and Temporal Tempest
- Unshakeable Fervor and Lighting the Embers
Extended Journal Add-Ons: Item Set Browser ― Loot Log ― Character Knowledge ― Event Collectibles ― RaidificatorOther Add-Ons: Combat Alerts ― Deconstruction Junk Marker ― Purge Tracker ― vHoF Status Panel ― Asylum Status Panel ― Smart Looter ― Improved Companion Rapport Information1 -
BooPerScOOper✭✭✭BooPerScOOper wrote: »I got a little over 9K per tick dmg with just "Marked" alone. What were you getting?
Nahviintaas HM from last week, the damage through the entire 15s duration of one application of the effect on me.
We don't do solo MT; we swap taunt. The final two ticks--after my Minor Maim on the boss had expired--hit me for a bit over 9K. Haven't been in there this week yet.
Yeah come to think of it, I don't think I applies Heroic Slash before we swapped. Good to know it drops it to 7.7k.0 -
profundidob16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭BooPerScOOper wrote: »I got a little over 9K per tick dmg with just "Marked" alone. What were you getting?
Nahviintaas HM from last week, the damage through the entire 15s duration of one application of the effect on me.
We don't do solo MT; we swap taunt. The final two ticks--after my Minor Maim on the boss had expired--hit me for a bit over 9K. Haven't been in there this week yet.
thx, I'll check it next week. What addon did you use in the screenshot btw ?0 -
profundidob16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Harrdarrzarr wrote: »that screenshot is from the esologs site
thx, I'm going to switch to using that as well shortly. Still have to get used to it0