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Should people who keep asking for a Global Auction house get banned for a few days?

  • Skwor
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    Yes
    Kel wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    Kel wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    Kel wrote: »
    Skwor wrote: »
    Zypheran wrote: »
    Why don't you just tell us what topics we may and may not debate by your decree!

    When a chld keeps screaming the same thing over and over and an adult takes appropriate action to stop it, it is not censorship. It is a reasonable action to stop immature emotional bullying.

    Can we ban the players who keep posting about the stupid trader add on issue then, by this logic?

    If it stops GAH threads I would happily accept my time in the wilderness. GAH are that much of a cancer imo, so yes I would walk into the sacriface eyes wide open.

    Yes...of course letting all players have a chance to make a profit while keeping inflated prices down seems like cancer.

    /sarcasm

    GaH will reduce the average players profit, of this I am certain. Many posts have made this point quite well on these forums. They are worth searching for if you disagree.

    I'd rather have reduced profit for all, then inflated profit for a few.

    I can respect that opinion, though I believe it would be far worse than that. Which is why I am against them. I am convinced it would only make those few even wealthier.
    Edited by Skwor on June 17, 2019 11:50AM
  • idk
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    Skwor wrote: »
    idk wrote: »
    Turelus wrote: »
    I would rather the real trolls and spammers get bans before the people who debate the same thing each month (as often they're people who are not aware of the previous threads)

    I have to agree with this. I am not a fan of auction houses, nor the related threads, but I do not think it is a good idea to quell discussion regardless of how often the same thing comes up.

    For some reason we have two threads today about auction houses but have nothing to do with discussing auction houses itself. If you do not like threads about auction houses then avoid them.

    You could just as easily avoid these posts you do not like. There is a word for such a position within ones reasoning.

    I will exercise my free speech in the name of free speech which is what I am doing. There is a word for such a position within ones reasoning.
  • Kidgangster101
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    People who openly admit to using add-ons to gain advantages over others should be banned from the game as well 😉😉😉😉
  • LadySinflower
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    Quite often people come to the forum having an emotional reaction to something in the game. For example, someone searched every major guild trading hub in the game looking for an item and did not find said item. This player is now upset and feels like they wasted their time. When they get here they aren't going to spend more time searching for a complaint thread to add to. They will just make a new one voicing their opinion that the guild trader system is flawed and they want something else. Most vent threads, no matter the subject, are created because of an emotional response to something. If you start punishing the people who wrote the ones covering one subject you might as well punish everybody who vents about anything. For every vent thread there will be at least one person reading it who is sick of people talking about that particular subject. Like it or not, it's a public forum and we have to deal with whatever ends up here. Only the moderators have the power to remove or edit posts made by others.
  • Mitrenga
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    Yes
    If it is baiting, definitely yes.
    If he/she's an old player with a new forum discussion, yes.
    If he/she's an old player that raised an old discussion with new ideas, no.
    If he/she's a new player who has zero knowledge of what the forum's search function is, no.

    I think I have covered most of the cases. My opinion, we are too late for an AH. There are many players who can manipulate the AH atm (it really is easier to manipulate AH then GH where you have limited -only 5- access) but I'm always open to new, well constructed ideas.
  • ZeroXFF
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    People who complain about people trying to improve the game should be banned (read: those who oppose a global AH).
  • Uryel
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    No
    This thread could be renamed "I want people who disagree with me and get in the way of my profits as a member of the Cartel Of Trader-Monopolizing Trade Guilds to be banned so I can keep exploiting a flawed system to my advantage".
  • Uryel
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    No
    Kel wrote: »
    I'd rather have reduced profit for all, then inflated profit for a few.

    Careful, mate, you're one step away from being called a communist. And as I understand it, those people use it as an insult.
  • dannymcgr81b14_ESO
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    I don't think so. The forums are here so people can express their opinions. Just because it's not one you agree with doesn't make it invalid. If it's not something you want to see just don't open the thread.
  • daemonios
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    Uryel wrote: »
    This thread could be renamed "I want people who disagree with me and get in the way of my profits as a member of the Cartel Of Trader-Monopolizing Trade Guilds to be banned so I can keep exploiting a flawed system to my advantage".

    I, for one, support a global AH (with certain measures taken to counter the obvious weaknesses of that model) but I am growing increasingly fond of the idea of banning people who spam the forums with these repeated threads. You can leave your tin foil hat on your way out.
    Edited by daemonios on June 17, 2019 12:40PM
  • LennoxPoodle
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    I don't support the idea of a global AH, but everyone can state her/his opinion as relentlessly as they want. So no.
  • EvilAutoTech
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    Let's also ban everyone who starts threads about everything else that's not going to happen. Like bug fixes and performance upgrades.

    I'm not in favor of a global auction house, an adjusted auction house or a regional barker. Not necessarily against them, either. I am against stifling people for any reason. If words are dangerous to your position, then your position may be at fault.

    San Dimas High football rules.
  • Defilted
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    No
    I live in America where we practice freedom of speech. I could not in good faith of that rule shut someone down just because they disagree with me.
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  • reoskit
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    Can't/won't vote. I don't care if people keep asking for an Auction House. Ask all you want. Do I agree with you? Nope. But who am I to tell you not to ask for it?

    What I do want is for people to respect the original topics of threads. If the thread is not about an Auction House, keep it out. Otherwise, you're just derailing a topic that is important to someone else. It's selfish, it's rude, and it will never get you an Auction House.

    (This goes for all people, all threads, all topics, not just AH talk.)
  • LiraTaurwen
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    And the prize for most retarted topic of 2019 goes to....
  • Uryel
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    daemonios wrote: »
    Uryel wrote: »
    This thread could be renamed "I want people who disagree with me and get in the way of my profits as a member of the Cartel Of Trader-Monopolizing Trade Guilds to be banned so I can keep exploiting a flawed system to my advantage".

    I, for one, support a global AH (with certain measures taken to counter the obvious weaknesses of that model) but I am growing increasingly fond of the idea of banning people who spam the forums with these repeated threads. You can leave your tin foil hat on your way out.

    No tin foil here, mate. That guys posts in EVERY thread that advocates for a global auction house, acting somewhat high and might because obviously (ahem) the current system is vastly superior and all that.
  • daemonios
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    Defilted wrote: »
    I live in America where we practice freedom of speech. I could not in good faith of that rule shut someone down just because they disagree with me.

    Freedom of speech protects you from Government interference with the free exchange of ideas and opinions. It does not apply to private forums. Even if you subscribe to that (inaccurate) concept of free speech, banning spammers doesn't affect your freedom to discuss issues in one of the DOZENS OF THREADS ALREADY CREATED TO DISCUSS THAT TOPIC.
    Uryel wrote: »
    daemonios wrote: »
    Uryel wrote: »
    This thread could be renamed "I want people who disagree with me and get in the way of my profits as a member of the Cartel Of Trader-Monopolizing Trade Guilds to be banned so I can keep exploiting a flawed system to my advantage".

    I, for one, support a global AH (with certain measures taken to counter the obvious weaknesses of that model) but I am growing increasingly fond of the idea of banning people who spam the forums with these repeated threads. You can leave your tin foil hat on your way out.

    No tin foil here, mate. That guys posts in EVERY thread that advocates for a global auction house, acting somewhat high and might because obviously (ahem) the current system is vastly superior and all that.

    So what? That's their opinion. You think they're wrong, they think you're wrong. On this issue specifically there isn't even an objectively better solution - it all depends on what you value more. I value convenience over the rent-a-trader minigame that I don't even play. As far as I can tell, I'm in the minority within the ESO community.

    My only problem here is the thread spamming, which is becoming ridiculous. Hijacking the entire front page of the forums for your pet peeve is not cool. I'm a disgruntled PC-EU player and still said as much when some people started spamming the forums with "fix PC-EU" threads some time ago.
  • Kalik_Gold
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    No
    No - merge threads into 1 AH thread
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    Ras Kalik the Vestige, a renown Redguard warrior; He has been blessed to save Tamriel from Molag Bal’s destructive Planemeld while reuniting the Five Companions. His further accomplishments after defeating Molag Bal, has been to stop the destruction of Morrowind, the Clockwork City, return order to the isle of Summerset and create a new king in Wrothgar and a queen in Elsywer. These events have made him a living legend and continue to lead him into new adventures throughout Tamriel, as well as into the hearts of many ladies including the Elf Queen, Aryenn. Over many years of adventurous travels, Ras Kalik had become a loner, until he re-visited his homeland of Alik'r.

    Alik'r and it's cities were overrun by the undead Ra-Netu and therefore he made an allegiance with Alik'r's own Ash'abah tribe. These Ash'abah with his help, cleansed the city of Sentinel in Alik'r desert and it's surrounding areas of the undead brought to life by the Withered Hand. After rescuing Sentinel from the undead zombies, King Fahara’jad’s personal bodyguard the Goliath of Hammerfell, who was given this name by Imperials in the region; was asked to assist the tribe after learning of the defeat of the Withered Hand to the Ash'abah. Kalik promised Goliath he would task him with fighting living enemies on the battlefield if he so desired. Goliath being a Yokudan warrior wields a massive sword in respect to the Ansei, a gift given by the Imperial, Cinan Tharn. Not many soldiers are able to wield double two handed weapons, but Goliath loves to get up and personal in a fight, so he also carries a giant maul, both weapons laced with magical flames.

    Jux Blackheart is a master thief that masquerades as a Bard at the Sisters of the Sands inn, with his younger sidekick Lucky Hunch for pilfering and gambling during this time. Jux was known to infiltrate any towns bank vault he came across and even delved into Ayelid ruins without detection. Kalik can vividly recall the night he met the famed thief. Jux found himself rummaging thru a slightly inebriated Kalik’s pocket for too long, on a full-mooned night and because of his greed and the glimmer of his golden armor in the moonlight. He lost his left pinky fingertip as a lesson! But in return, he gained a new friend, as it was his first time since a child being caught red-handed...

    Upon arrival back in the Alik'r after many moons of adventuring, Ras Kalik ventures to Bergama. Visiting The Winking Jackal, he runs into Jux Blackheart, who introduces him to the coin game Crowns vs Forebearers (Heads vs Tails) and Golden Dwemer (RBG).... Jux constantly takes gold from the unfortunate thru theft or gambling, his biggest gambling victim is actually his partner in crime known as Lucky Hunch the Gambler. Lucky doesn't mind losing any gold coins to Jux... as Jux saved him from Altmer slavers in Summerset, by stealing a key and sending him on a boat to the mainland years prior. Lucky spent years in slavery with Khajiits in Summerset and picked up the art of subterfuge, using illusion magic disguises and stealing there.

    Kaotik Von’Daemon an outcast, and a half-caste between a Breton mother and a Redguard father. Kaotik become a pariah due to his conjuration of Daedra pets. He was taught healing magic during his childhood years by his Breton mother. His father due to Redguard customs exiled him from the desert, sending him by wagon caravan to be a soldier in the war in Cyrodiil. He happened to meet Kalik while traveling from Alik'r, during this long caravan ride the caravan he was in was ambushed in Bangkorai by a group of bandits. Kalik by chance was also traveling thru this area on his Auridon Warhorse (which was bestowed to him by his friend, Darien Gautier). During this ambush, Kalik was able to rescue five hostages from the bandits. Kaotik was the first rescued, and Ras Kalik also recruited him to be in the Ash'abah tribe. These core Ash'abah tribesmen may never be seen together in travel as they partake in their own adventures but they always know what each other is doing; as they frequent a hideout in northern Bankorai. Their hideout an old Orc castle ruin, is kept watch by Nuzhimeh and she passes messages written between them, and frequently they also enjoy her company and her bed.

    The other men rescued were a Dunmer banker, an Imperial mercenary and two other soldiers, an Imperial and a Breton Knight, stating proudly he was an Akavir descendent. One of the Imperials, Cinan, claimed to be related to Abnur Tharn the Battlemage of the Imperial Elder Council (One of Ras Kalik's mentors in the Five Companions). Cinan Tharn was really Abnur's drunkard treasure hunting illegitimate son. He was caught smuggling artifacts out of the Ayleid ruins in Cyrodiil and the elder of the two Imperials was Tyrus Septim a retired Imperial navy battle-mage (now a Lycan mercenary living in the city of Rimmen) and guard to the Tharn family. As much as Abnur Tharn hated his half-sister Euraxia, he dislikes his bas†ard son Cinan more. Tyrus now a ruffian and privateer had been paid by Abnur Tharn to watch over Cinan as much as possible. Cinan Tharn a drunkard, loves to drink at least a quarter barrel of Nord mead before he raids various delves and dungeons for relics to sell on the black market. Cinan also plans to one day, run an illegal gambling ring... which he thinks will net him more gold for his wares.

    The Dunmer captive shackled to the Imperials looked familiar to Kalik from his time in Morrowind.... and he recognized him as Tythis Andromo a House Telvanni slave-owner and banker from Vvardenfell. During a rough interrogation to Tythis, Ras Kalik learnt why the bandits accosted him. The racist Dunmer was providing slaves as soldiers for the Three Banner War. The bandits were trying to negotiate a lucrative ransom for Andromo and the Imperials.... Kalik did not need any of this gold and he could never set Tythis free as he did with the two Imperial soldiers. His past involvement with slavery and war crimes, made Kalik's blood boil. He chose not to execute Tythis, as he figured the worse punishment for this former rich and opulent slave owner, is to now be an imprisoned servant for Ras Kalik and the tribe.

    Herzog Zwei the Genesis a reknown Imperial/Akavirri battle-mage. His roots going back to Akavir through his mother’s bloodline. (His mother is descended from the Akaviri, through Versidue-Shae, and his Imperial father met her in Hakoshae, while traveling) Herzog earned the nickname "the Genesis" from his father as a child, as he was his mother's first born child, and last, as she tragically died in child-birth.

    Herzog was seeking to purchase an artifact from Cinan Tharn, before their capture and was meeting Tyrus while in Rimmen, who introduced him to Cinan. This artifact being the Ayelid artifact; the sword Sinweaver. After their rescue and the exchange of gold to Cinan for the sword he decided to slip away before Ras Kalik could question who he was, and why the Akavir descendant really wanted that sword. Herzog was headed to Nagastani — An Ayleid ruin in eastern Cyrodiil. He had read in scrolls that the Sword would give him magical powers to meet his mothers spirit, if he performed an Ayleid ritual at an old shrine hidden there. Equipped with the artifact sword, he was off to start his own adventure but Ras Kalik, did indeed notice the sword however and instead sent a letter to Jux Blackheart (whom also was interested in Ayleid treasures), to attempt to find Herzog and acquire the sword. (*Azani Blackheart in Elder Scroll's Oblivion is Jux's descendant some 747 years later)

    And so the Redguard, Imperial and Akaviri men parted ways ... While Ras Kalik went off to Elsweyr to encounter the latest threat to Tamriel, with Abnur Tharn and Sai Sahan - - DRAGONS!! Little did Ras Kalik know a few people were awaiting him in Senchal besides Sai. A necromancer survived his attack on the Withered Hand, while in Alik'r. The necromancer known as Auriek Siet'ka is also following him to the land of the Khajiits and Cacique the Sage of Ius a Shaman mystic who has become attuned spiritually with Tu'whacca (a Redguard God) and Ius (the Animal God), after being burned severely by the escaped dragons in Elsywer, is awaiting his arrival also. Aurik is a soldier of the Daggerfall Covenant that was introduced to necromancy while in the military, even though this magicka art is not spoken of openly by most of the Military leaders. He came to Alik'r and worked with the Withered Hand before Ras Kalik intervened on their plans. After the defeat of the Withered Hand, he aligned with the Worm Cult, and is constantly adapting and perfecting his necromantic arts.

    After his journey to Rimmen, Kalik heads south to Senchal, in the southern regions of Elyswer. This new adventure will also put him on a path to meet a strange Redguard man. The stranger which was infected with an untreated Peyrite disease and also was the exiled from the Order of the New Moon cult, due to his sickness. He originally joined the cult to worship Laatvulon, the green dragon, mistakenly thinking it was the Daedric prince Peyrite. This confused and suffering cultist is known as Tsar al-Bomba and he is on a path to spread the disease. He was originally infected in Orccrest while recruiting members there. Can Ras Kalik and the shaman Cacique cure this poor soul, only time will tell. Little does Tsar al-Bomba know, that his infection is tied to Vampirism, and eventually the desire for blood will take over his mind. Senchal also offers Kalik his latest love interest... Aeliah. Whom he fondly led thru battles with the Dragonguard.

    After the trek thru the heat, tropical and desert climate of Northern and Southern Elyswer, Ras Kalik heads north to the cold mountain range of Skyrim. His companion friend Lyris beckons for him with a letter sent by crow...

    Movárth Piquine - a former vampire hunter (now infected), within the Fighter's Guild (and a secretive necromancer) was in Skyrim working with the Morthaal Guard. On a patrol mission he was caught in Frewien's ice curse outside of Morthaal with the frozen undead. Movárth's vampiric infection kept him from becoming an undead minion to the curse. He was able to use necromantic ice-magic to encase himself safely until he was freed with Freiwen, when the Vestige Ras Kalik broke the curse.

    Uri Ice-Heart - brother of Urfon Ice-Heart. The twin sons of Atli and Oljourn Ice-Heart. The Ice-Heart family are originally from Markarth but now reside on the Jerall Mountain range near Cyrodiil, with their younger sister Araki. The twins had joined the Winterborn Reachmen while living in Markarth. Urfon pushed west to Orsinium with the Winterborn Clan, leaving his family behind. Uri stayed behind with his parents and sister to live in the family cabin for safety, avoiding the Vampire plague infiltrating the Reach. After news reaches him and he hears of Urfon's death... Uri leaves and heads home and is seeking vengeance. Meanwhile, his sister has also moved on to Windhelm to join the Fighter's guild. He will visit his sister, once before going to seek vengeance and she will craft him armor mixed with ice, called Stalhrim armor. Uri fearing death, after his brother's passing, falls victim to the convincing talk of Movárth at a Nordic tavern, and will also becomes a vampire.

    {time moves forward through the hour-glass}
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  • TequilaFire
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    So when are we getting the global auction house? >:)
  • EQBallzz
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    No
    Troll creates trolly poll about alleged trolls.

    Lacking self-awareness and irony: 10/10
  • Dont_do_drugs
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    Yes
    Actually, if ure dead serious about forum rules, asking for ah is an offense. It can be considered spam, as there had been thousand threads where someone was able to put his answer or opinion in. The forum rules state clear: check and search for equal topics.

    Get Stuff like this (but not this stuff)


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    "I have too admit. People leading trade guilds in this game are quite stupid. Not stupid like fools, but stupid like leaders.
    They can only bla-bla and waste gold on feeding their ego. I am disappointed."

    Egal, wie gut du Schach spielst, die Taube wird alle Figuren umwerfen, auf das Brett kacken und herumstolzieren, als hätte sie gewonnen.

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  • TequilaFire
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    Yet thread necro is a crime!
  • idk
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    So when are we getting the global auction house? >:)

    What is funny is OP caused more auction house threads to be created today from creating this thread. I wonder if that was their intent and they are one of those that actually support the effort and think more threads helps it. If not they did not think this through very well.
  • Dont_do_drugs
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    Yes
    Yet thread necro is a crime!

    Since those threads come up every week, u cannot call it necro using them. If ud use a 2yr old one, sure, but that's not the case here. 😉

    Get Stuff like this (but not this stuff)


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    "I have too admit. People leading trade guilds in this game are quite stupid. Not stupid like fools, but stupid like leaders.
    They can only bla-bla and waste gold on feeding their ego. I am disappointed."

    Egal, wie gut du Schach spielst, die Taube wird alle Figuren umwerfen, auf das Brett kacken und herumstolzieren, als hätte sie gewonnen.

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  • Skwor
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    Yes
    Holy cow I am stunned. I actually thought this thread would get blasted more but it is still very close at the time of this post.
  • warabi
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    Much like all those previous Rawl'kha threads and now with this history debacle, both clearly show how garbage the guild trading setup truly is in this game. When there's strife with a poor system there will be descent.
  • Kiralyn2000
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    blnchk wrote: »
    I'd like for OP to get banned for a few days, since they sound like they could use a break from these forums.

    That was my vote, yeah. But I could only find "other". ;)


    edit: on the wider topic - I'm in favor of GAH's, and think that the guild vendor system's only redeeming feature is the massive gold sink that is bidding on traders; BUT I know it's never going to change, so I generally don't bother with GAH threads.
    Edited by Kiralyn2000 on June 17, 2019 2:17PM
  • idk
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    Skwor wrote: »
    Holy cow I am stunned. I actually thought this thread would get blasted more but it is still very close at the time of this post.

    Most people are willing to let others have the conversation over and over even if they disagree. In other words, the poll says nothing about the subject of an AH but really says more about a number of people supporting the freedom of speech that has allowed you to create this poll and thread.
  • BigBragg
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    As much as I'd wish people would use the search feature, and get incredibly tired of beating that same old horse...

    The forums are designed as a place for players both new and old to come and voice the ideas and opinions concerning the game. I think standing up far that is far more important than the trouble of scrolling past a redundant thread that doesn't interest me.
  • rotaugen454
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    Should people who make silly polls be banned for a few days?

    Yes
    No
    I like to watch the world burn
    "Get off my lawn!"
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