...and the game could also use more magicka weapons.

Seems to me like they did it wrong with Necro. Stam Necro has access to nearly all of the DPS class skills, as well as choosing 2 of the 3 stamina DPS weapon skill lines, the powerful Fighters Guild skills and a strong AoE DoT from the Alliance skill line (Caltrops). They can also use Spiders from the Undaunted skill line pretty effectively.

Compare that to Mag Necro, which has all the same class skills and only one that Stam Necro does not (Boneyard). They have access to only 1 weapon skill line (Destruction Staff), and 0 useful damage abilities from Mage’s Guild, Undaunted, or Alliance skill lines.

Add to that the fact that Blast Bones (and by extension Siphon, since it uses Blast Bones for targeting) is far slower and buggier on Mag Necro since it has pathing issues from range. Stam Necro also gets a better morph of Scythe, and can use it more effectively from melee range.

Mag Necro has no access to an execute, while Stam are able to double execute using Poison Injection + Whirling Blades or Executioner. These execute abilities synergize great with the Necro passive that increases crit chance against low health enemies, and Magicka Necros get far less benefit from this passive.

It’s really no surprise that Stam Necro is among the highest DPS builds in the game, while Mag Necro is at the bottom of the list. Other classes are far more balanced between Mag and Stam, simply because Mag needs to rely more on class skills due to their lack of other options. I will agree that this makes many Stam builds feel bland and the same, but to give a majority of class benefits to Stam Necro without rebalancing other skill lines (Mages Guild, Undaunted, Weapon Skill Lines, Alliance Skills) was a mistake.

My opinion is that classes should only get one stamina damage ability, the rest support costing magick. You want to play stamina, choose weapon skills. You like the look of you class damage skills chose magick.
-Power of the light
-Hurricane (needs to deal almost double damage in cyrodiil...)
-beetles
-DK stam morph of searing strike
-assasins will
-blastbones

And maybe a stam morph of the damage ultimate for each class

Having said that the stamina weapon spammables are kinda ***. Like WB, was nerfed too much twice, first in the targeting of it, than in damage. Flurry is ridiculously weak. Too many hard to hit weapon spammables that are channeled, cast time.

Need instant cast options that are worth a damn in stam weps.

My 2 cents

Noobslayer3255 wrote: »

Baconlad wrote: »

My opinion is that classes should only get one stamina damage ability, the rest support costing magick. You want to play stamina, choose weapon skills. You like the look of you class damage skills chose magick.

I have to ask, why? Why should every class only get 1 stamina morph of a damage ability?

Maybe because stam has 4 weapon choices when compared to 2 for magicka. Plus the overwhelming majority of class skills start off as magicka. If the game made this kind of change and buffed weapon spammables, I would be fine with this.

Better yet, do this and add more class skills that cost magicka and scale off your highest stats like flames of oblivion or nb shade

BigBragg wrote: »

...and the game could also use more magicka weapons.

Imo it should have been a 50/50 split down the middle with Ability and Weapon Skill Morphs from the very start of the game.

The initial ability starts out as either Stam or Mag but the two Morphs would always have one stam option and one Magic option. PvE and PvP balanced separately of course. But alas ZOS didn't consult me when designing the game.

actually an unarmed monk weapon line that was magicka and stamina focus would be really cool

I organized my thoughts on this topic better. More stamina morphs could work, but there are other changes that would need to happen in parallel.

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